What to think about what is going on in College campuses...

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  1. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Oh... God! :roll:

    What a sad sad way to make my case...
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Since by "the norm" you are referring to is us financing the slaughter of innocent civilians, all I can say is ...good for them!!!
     
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    They don't really give a damn about anyone but themselves- and I think it has little to do with people in Gaza. The norm is that they aren't as important as they think they are, and they are trying to convince us we should think they are. They are there to piss off the established powers that have to actually run the schools and the country- and they have no idea what all that requires.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Sounds like nonsense. And more likely than not I'll regret asking but...what "special rights" are you talking about?

    If your answer requires you to go on and on about Yemen and Sudan... don't bother....
     
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    If they expect to receive some personal benefit from saving the lives of innocent palestinians..... power to them! I hope they get it!

    Then I would expect you should be happy that they save palestinians by pissing off Biden. I'm not sure why you aren't.
     
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    What I think is going on is young people are stupid and you think this makes a difference. They're also being a bit anti-Semitic which is a problem.

    Beyond that I'm a little more bothered that the police are coming in and stopping the protests and a lot of places but they didn't but the BLM protests.

    The only thing I can think of is there's no political Capital to be gained by simping for Hamas.
     
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    You do realize that Palestinian children wouldn’t be in this situation if Palestinian didn’t attack Israel. Wow , that is a progress. Now if you just realize that only way Palestinian has any future whatsoever if they give up their mindset about distraction of Israel and lay down their weapon.
     
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    They aren't picketing Biden. They are trashing universities, and the educational institutions. Makes as much sense as if they trashed your house or wall mart and demanded you fix the war in Gaza.
    They- aren't fixing anything for anybody. They are just enjoying disrupting things. Anything.
     
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    One thing now that all these college kids wear these scarves to show solidarity with the "downtrodden".

    Uighur Slaves Struggling To Keep Up With Demand For Palestinian Headscarves https://buff.ly/3UNsjEC
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    I support the ones that are picketing Biden and not trashing universities. And they have apparently made inroads. Now Biden refuses to send bombs that Israel wanted to use to attack Raffa. One of the most densely populated regions of the world.
     
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    IF our leaders (and those protestors) had more than feces for brains, they would be thinking of solutions that work, not thinking the people who are actually involved and have their lives on the line have nothing to say more important than they do.

    I doubt you believe Israel ever intended to kill civilians, and nothing they have done indicates that. But Hamas has intentionally hidden themselves and their operations among civilians- so they could create sympathy for terrorism by claiming civilians were being attacked. Hamas is making them cannon fodder. Not Israel- Hamas. Lot of people apparently aren't smart enough to figure that out . IF Hamas cared about the Palestinian civilians, two things would be different. First, they would not have embedded themselves in the midst of civilians, hospitals and schools- and secondly- today, they would surrender right now to preserve civilian lives. Are you smart enough to figure that out? I think you are. The question is why you don't take that position, that you know is true- and stand on it.

    I don't think you work for Hamas. I wonder why you would support a position that benefits them when you know better.
     
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    There is only one solution that MIGHT, even conceivably, work: a two-state solution. I agree that anybody who doesn't realize this has feces for brains.

    I don't. I believe they kill so many civilians because they're incompetent. And people who are incompetent at something, simply shouldn't do it.

    Though rumors of Netanyahu intending to bomb Rafah does make me wonder if there might be something BEYOND simple incompetence. What kind of idiot... or criminal... would bomb one of the world's most densely populated areas. Terrorists or not, that would be pure savagery.

    What position are you talking about?
     
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    Hamas benefits from these campus protests, or any accusations that try to make Israel the evil side of the war. That is Hamas dogma- they are promoting that point of view to turn the world against Israels and way from the heinous criminal butchery they are responsible for. Everyone of the protestors is helping Hanas keep the war going by feeling sorry for the civilians- that Hamas intentionally put in the warzone and keeps there. Hamas is gaming people, using them. Some people are dumb enough to allow it. Not smart enough even to understand what they are doing

    You say incompetence kills civilians? Incompetence is civilians ignoring advance warnings of coming attacks, and failing to heed the advice to leave. That's worse than incompetence, it's stupidity.
    Israel gave advance warnings. Some refused to leave- end of story.
     
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    Biden refused to send precision bombs, which means they'll use more non-precision bombs to attack Raffa. Israel wanted them to protect innocent civilians. Congrats on your victory of killing more innocent Gazans.
     
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    They benefit innocent civilians!

    No! Israel is NOT the evil side of the war. Netanyahu is. Let's not confuse the two. There are more protests against Netanyahu's murderous policies in Israel than there are in the U.S.

    Are you even paying attention to what is happening? They DID leave!!! Netanyahu told them to move south. They moved south. Netayahu slaughtered them them just the same. Then he told them to go to Rafah. And now Netanyahu is angry with Biden because he won't give him the bombs to BOMB Rafah... One of the most densely populated areas in the world! Protesters SAID that this is what Netanyahu would do. They were right!
     
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    Rafah is one of the most densely populated areas in the world. Netanyahu TOLD civilian palestinians to move there. So it's even MORE populated now. There is NO bomb in existence that is precise enough to avoid a carniage of the innocent

    If Netanyahu attacks Rafah, he will go down in history as one of the bloodiest mass murderers humanity has produced. Biden is right! The US must NOT be a participant in such a crime against humanity! Because if we do participate, Americans everywhere will be the targets of terrorist attacks as accomplices to the slaughter of innocents.

    MAGAs aren't understanding what's at stake here!
     
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    Uighurs are unlucky - it they were oppressed by Jews, China would be called Nazi, Apartheid state and UN would create special agency to take care of Uighurs only - United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Uighurs in the China (UNRWA).
     
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    If only they were being raped murdered and enslaved by the right oppressors, the world would be outraged.

    While China throws the husbands into slave camps, male agents of the government then move into the home and share the wife's bed

    [​IMG]https://www.businessinsider.com › china-uighur-monitor-home-shared-bed-report-2019-11?op=1
    China is reportedly sending men to sleep in the same beds as Uighur ...
    'China's Communist Party is waging a hardline campaign against the Uighur ethnic minority, which has seen more than 1 million people detained in prison camps. Authorities have since 2017 been ...'

    And no outrage.
     
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    As usual, the armchair heros promote division. Lets have a nice clean war that doesn't kill anyone that doesn't want to be killed. Every nation will have some who think that's possible.
    Ever have people shooting machine guns at you? Would you refuse to shoot back, because you might hit someone that was just hanging out with the people doing it?
    I didn't think so.
     
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    It's spreading to high schools:
     
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    Two state is the only solution? Will people from the West who advocate two-state solution move to Gaza and live there?

    This is the problem with the West, they sit in their comfortable home or coffee shop and then come up with solution for Middel East.

    People who live in Gaza , they don’t want two state solution, people who live in Jerusalem , they don’t want two state solution.

    But the West wants to bring peace./solution to people who has ZERO interest to have peace.
     
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    No no no! It's clear you're not following the conflict. There are over a million people in one small area of Gaza known as Rafah. About half of them are children. If Netanyahu bombs that, A LOT of innocent people will die.

    And what is the purpose? The majority of Hamas isn't in Rafah. They're in the West Bank, Quatar, other arab nations.... and some in Turkey. The leader of Hamas in Gaza is there. But killing all those people to get HIM? What happened to all those Israeli Nazi Hunters that used to be so good at bringing war criminals to justice?
     
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    True. And when the solution is to bomb civilians with bombs the US provides, that solution means an increase of terrorism... Not just in Israel, but in the US. WE become accomplices. They don't realize that the risk of their favorite coffee shop being attacked by terrorists out of existence as they are drinking their latte, increases exponentially.

    I couldn't care less what they want. WE want a two state solution! And, as you wrote the above using your Starbucks WiFi, YOU should want one. Unless you don't mind the possibility of having to hide from terrorists the next time you think you're sitting pretty behind your latte calling for OTHERS to kill innocent civilians. Soon YOU could be the next innocent victim in the conflict.
     
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    I support Biden 100% and I will vote for him in November, but he is wrong not to send weapon to Israel.

    Congress approved the money for Executive branch to send those weapons. I remember another POTUS didn’t send weapon to Ukraine which congress approved.
    Yes, Trump didn’t send weapon to Ukraine for personal reason, and Biden to bring peace. But Biden can’t withheld aid for Israel which has been approved by congress.
    If WH only provide defensive weapon , that has to be approved by congress.
     
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    BINGO .. BINGO .. BINGO

    This is exactly what I have been saying since Oct 7.

    The Latte Liberals don't care about what people in Middel East want. They want to impose their views on people in Middel East.

    How funny it is. 20 some years ago liberals in 2003 was telling W Bush “ you can’t impose democracy in Middel East”. Bush didn’t care, he ignored it, started a war , spent 9 trillion US money, sacrifice over million Iraqis and 4431 Americans. At the end Iraq gave “ middle finger” and said “ take your democracy and shove it up you’re a$$”.
     

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