OK- and this now has to be seriously addressed- Brits don't really have a nationality. The Irish do- and the Scots are due to recreate one. Someone has to write the rules..................and I can't see it being some plum-gobbed Tory boy in London
Good question. From my understanding the Nationalists want to go back to what the situation was after the Union of the Crowns (1603) but before the Union of Parliaments (believe 1707). The countries would have the same monarch but completely different governments.
I don't think that's what they actually want. I think they know they couldn't possibly win a referendum without the loyalist votes. After a few years of independence they could then probably ditch the monarchy as well.
So almost fully politically and economically independent, like Canada or Australia, but recognizing the monarchy?
I'm completely against self determination so I don't believe the people of a region have any right to determine their fate.
Another stupid comparison. I'm afraid there was hardly nears as many who passed through OR REACHED scotland. ..
I've no objection to "self-determination , provided the ADULT electorate are fully informed of the facts and their nationalist emotions aare'nt exploited by crafty /cunning politicians . ...
No, not the same . The present scottish government led by First Minister want to continue exploiting use of Bank of England currency , and not finance Scotlands international representations , i.e. diplomatic representations/embassies , etc., They dont want to pay their own way - stand on their own feet as a fully Independent Nation, My understanding is that they want a sort of HALF iNDEPENDENCE. -
All of the above....but then football isn't anything to do with the real world if you aren't a Rangers/Celtic fan........no.scrub that......if you aren't a bigoted Protestant/Catholic. A Scot is someone who, with the whole UK and the world to choose from, chooses to make their home in Scotland.....whatever their religion/colour/race/ethnicity/culture and all the other differentiating factors bigots home in on. I know/used to know (given I am no longer in my home area) Scots who are English, American, Indian, Pakistani, Chinese, Welsh, Irish Polish, Filipino etc...but as long as they live here they are Scots in my eyes, just as much as me who can trace her family tree back to the 16th century...because they have chosen to be here, when they could be anywhere else. And I don't see, in all honesty, why Scots who have chosen to leave my country should be entitled to pop up out of nowhere and have a say in what is best for those who haven't buggered off to a life they prefer to the one they had. I don't remember now if Zola Budd actually got British citizenship out of it....or if she was in much the same position as any footballer born outside the UK with a grandparent who was English/Welsh/NI or Scottish...but I don't believe that playing for Scotland, and not living in Scotland,. means that you are automatically a citizen of Scotland...though I could be wrong there.
No it isn't..it is the only logical criteria. If I were a Palestinian living in the West Bank or Gaza, I'd be immensely hacked off if those who had moved on to other countries and lives decided that the independence on offer wasn't good enough to suit their aspirations, voted against and subjected those Palestinians actually living under the Israeli yoke to more decades of the same.......wouldn't you?
Well that makes my nephew and his American wife Scots. They chose to live in Scotland because it had the cheapest living costs. I hadn't thought about it before but I suppose they were natural Scots by way of thinking! Maybe Scots who have chosen to leave your country should have a say since people in other countries might get fed up with them and kick them back where they belong!
And a subject of our most gracious Majesty , Queen Elizabeth . She celebrates 60 years in office this year and ranks as probably the greatest British Queen of the last 1000 years and on a par with her namesake the Tudor Elizabeth -- the so called but probably no Virgin Queen . What a glorious example of dedication she has been , blessed by a remarkable caring and conscientious disposition . Especially beloved by her Scotty subjects , and she spends considerable time at Balmoral Castle , in Aberdeenshire . She loves to stroll the Moors gunning down game and probably privately wishing that she could have a few of those uncouth Scotty Republicans in her sights .
That's not an applicable criteria for decising who gets to vote in a referendum, because the people who are primarily effected by the outcome of it are the current resident population of Scotland, not people who once lived there (perhaps many years ago). What if a person were 80 years old, and had lived in Edinburgh all of their lives apart from the first 6 months, having been born in London? Are they Scottish enough? Should they get a vote? Of course they should! What if a person were 80 years old, and had lived in London all of their lives apart from the first 6 months, having been born in Edinburgh (and never even having visited Scotland since)? Are they Scottish enough? Should they get a vote? Of course they shouldn't!
Yep.....even if they have immigrant parents..whether from elsewhere in the UK or overseas. But once they move out of Scotland and register to vote in another country, until and unless they come back and live in Scotland, they have no right whatsoever to vote in Scottish elections. Seems a pretty sensible rule to me.
