Scots Begin Struggle For Independence:

I am fooled by no one because this government is useless. I am not a Tory but I know the inherit evil that lies with those of you on the far left. All forms of Marxism inevitably lead to a tyranny of the worst form. Most people need to be controlled by a strong government and if you doubt that have a look at what occurred in London this past August.

 

Sensible objections to being treated like (*)(*)(*)(*)e, forcibly expressed, occurred. How could 'forms' of marxism lead to anything when working-class control anywhere has never lasted more than a month or two while they fought the capitalist murder machine? You brainwashed characters are sad, you really are.

 

Which is what?... Populism? Any other answer will no doubt be viewed as disingenuous, given the following remark:

 

We saw true tyranny of the majority in the streets of London this summer and the Marxists and Anarchists supported the lawlessness that ensued. Shops were smashed by the thugs who terrorised the very common people those of you on the far left claim to support. Tyranny by the majority is overlooked by all modern political philosophy. Tell me why a ruling class is a crucial ingredient to established civilisations? This is a basic fact that history shows us on every continent.

 

It isn't overlooked by all modern political philosopy, ask the Yanks.

History shows us on every continent, that ruling classes are unacceptable and their existence often creates dissent depending on the economic situation of "the majority". If things are not too bad for the people, they may allow a ruling class to exist. It's not rocket science. Ruling class rarely restrains its own greed in the end, when it takes too much and where there is wealth disparity and injustice, obviously there will always be a reaction to correct it.

 

Hey, Viv..if you liked the video.......you'll like this!

Ever since the independence referendum was announced, Scotland has witnessed an outpouring of bile, negativity, scare mongering and bitterness from the anti-independence parties. The positive case for the Union and Cameron's respect agenda have cleared off as quick as a Catholic bishop who's blundered into a Gay Pride march.

The Unionist tactic is clear enough, throw enough mud and hopefully some will stick. This wee list of scare stories and myths is not comprehensive, there's not enough time in the day for that.

A Unionist Lexicon-An A to Z of Unionist Scare Stories, Myths and Misinformation

 

So? bLair was also supposedly Scots! He to belongs in the dock, and if we had our way....he would be! But he took the Queens shilling also!

Regards
Highlander

 

I guess all of you are no longer in love with Blair and Brown's idea of socialism?

 

Nulabour has never been socialist.....it has always been Tory-lite.

 

Were that so, the Tory supporters would vote for them. They don't!

It's rather like Republican claims that anything that is despised must be the result of liberalism.

 

If your choice is tory labour or extremism....tory...you still get tory!

But we north of the border are able to see through the deceit and lies!

Pity you are unable to see through the mists and see what's happening in YOUR country!

You quote American republican dogma...a nation which wouldn't know democracy if it bit there barearse!

Regards
Highlander

 

Tory Labour is just moonshine. You voted for Blair and was fooled as much, if not more that anyone else, since it was on the back of Thatcher that you did it, expecting better but getting worse.

Regarding the highlighted portion of your post, that's no skin off my nose since I agree with you.

 

Do you enjoy Civilisation or are you on a quest to return humanity to a pre Neolithic status? Social classes are part of a civilised society. They are a necessary. The very idea of a classless society is evil if you support the progress of civilisations.

 

Classic Toryism is long dead. The current Toryism is resembles Whighism of the 19th century. No political party in modern Britain supports Monarchism, which is precisely why I am not a Tory.

 

Please .....please.....I would never vote for bLair brown or any of the other reprobates in your house of cards!

I'm a Nationalist first and last!

We in Scotland haven't voted for torys since I was young.....better education up here!
We keep one tory as a threat and of historical note for the young ones to see what you can get through in breeding!

Highlander

 

Nobody voted Labour last time, Beevee. Almost everyone voted SNP. Except West of Scotland, there are still some Labour diehards.

 

In your opinion...
Stay stuck in stupid if you want, you're by no means alone, but how long will it take before the message gets through that equality of opportunity is the only thing that will work long term. Disparity will always cause discontent because...tah dah...it's unjust. Why should anyone accept that?
A decent basic level of living has to be available to all people. Or someone will notice and speak up.

 

Nobody voted Labour and you got Blair and Brown for oodles of years?

No wonder you want out. It's a pity the English cannot do the same.

 

Ah, Beevee.but we Scots have a different idea of socialism. It makes us to read Republicans calling Democrats socialists....and the more rabid Republicans calling them marxists and communists..because they aren't socialists at all.

That's not to say that in the great scheme of the American "devil take the hindmost and if you have no money you don't have any rights " society, as so often epitomised in posts on here, the Democrats are not streets ahead in trying to consider the disadvantaged.......but that doesn't really equate to a philosophy with a definitive name......just a lot of people with a modicum of compassion for those in dire straits who are endeavouring to push water uphill against Republican built dams.

Re the English voter ( who are by far the majority UK Tory supporters) they just read labels. Tory good..anything saying Labour bad!

If like us, they actually read policies, and looked back to see what Nulabour didn't do to combat the policies put in place by the Tories during their terms in Government, they would have realised, as we in Scotland have that the Nulabour Party in Westminster will sell their principles for power.

Unfortunately, because the Lib-Dems are currently a busted flush in Scotland, though not as busted as the Tories, and an SNP vote is, with the best will in the world an irrelevance in UK politics when it comes to forming a non-Tory Government, Nulabour is, in UK terms, the only game in town if you don't want a Tory Government.....and we definitely don't.......ever.

That's the reason that a country which would once have voted for a monkey on a stick if it was sporting a Labour rosette no longer does so in Scottish elections, where we have a real choice....because there are a lot more thinking and politically aware people among the Scottish population than among the English one who can see that you can't get a Rizla between their Tory and Nulabour policies any more.

 

Well no, almost everyone didn't vote SNP.

The SNP got 44.7% of the vote, more people didn't want them than did.

 

only an english can say so , class society= apartheid society

 

So now it's wrong to state the obvious .
Where is this meritocracy that you want to tell us about , that lasted for more than 10 seconds ?
Where is this group of equal people?

 

After WW2...the royals hand one chance....either change or leave....Attlee gave NHS,free treatment and the point of need ..... for everyone! Regardless of colour or creed!
Housing fit for human habitation!
Social Security!
Free national health glasses!
Human support for the nations of the UK!
This generation of English people have given away everything there forefathers fought for and got in WW1 and WW2!
Pity the lives were lost in vain!
Vote tory and get what you deserve! Servitude, abject poverty to name but a few!

Roll on 2014!

Regards
Highlander

 

"discontent" is your word for the basic human instinct to compete with each other, even at times using violence? There will never be a time in our history on this earth where humans do not interact violently with each other. It is natural to compete. In order to avoid such competitive senses from spilling into all out chaos, a strong ruling class is needed to preserve order. We lack such a class today and the evidence is on display daily in this society. What we saw in Brixton in the 1980's and in Tottenham this summer is not the result of discontent. It is the result of a lack of order and a government that is afraid to use force to contend with violent thugs.

 

At least it is nice to hear you advocating sound Conservative principles .
You are preaching about matters that in these times everybody believes in .
However , when we reach that position of providing equal initial opportunities to all , we must also recognise that there comes a point where the most able and productive need more and , more importantly ,deserve more.
So often the most deprived group are those who through natural abilities and talents show the greatest potential but are held back because equality of opportunity is deemed elitist and unjust .
We need an elite .Or , putting it in old fashioned terms , we need the best Generals as well as the best foot soldiers .