US burns Afghan Qu'rans.

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  1. Serfin' USA

    Serfin' USA Well-Known Member

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    Well, it could have just been a matter of not caring.

    Maybe they really did know better and just are sick of bothering with these things. I know I probably would be.

    I mean, really. Getting stuck in Afghanistan for a year or two would be pretty crappy to have to deal with, and when you've got a local population that is basically tribal people, I'd grow a bit tired of dealing with whatever superstitions or customs they have.

    We really shouldn't be there in the first place. We're trying to civilize a population that's not worth the effort.
     
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    Serfin' USA Well-Known Member

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    I wouldn't be surprised if they knew, and they probably will be disciplined, but ultimately, it really doesn't matter.
     
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    John Lennon asked us to imagine, but yes, he was a dreamer.

    Look, maybe sometime in the next 500 years or so, we'll evolve past religion, but it's not going to happen in our lifetimes, so we just need to adapt to it.

    Keep the fanatics in line, but be nice to the ones who aren't fanatical.
     
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    Of course it matters, since this event can be used as a training method to educate other soildiers to not make the same mistake.

    Or if not, the illterate will continue to cause chaotic situations.
     
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    Thanks for this as it shows what religion reduces us to....talking about GENIES! ("Jinns").

    Come on gang, they're fairy tales! Magic talking dead guys, the land of Oz, flying horses, a magic beanstalk, talking snakes, unicorns, Mother Goose. See, going over that last sentence how do you know which are "legitimate" (ie religious truths) and which are just actual fairy tales...you can't!

    Religions are just fairy tales that make non-falsifiable claims about bad things that will happen to you when you die if you don't give your loyalty to the founders, today. It's a good, profitable, con. Be a prophet for profit!
     
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    Blah, blah, blah, WHO REALLY CARES WHAT THE TROOPS DID, people shouldn't kill because a book was burned, or a cartoon drawn, or a dead guy was mocked, or someone switched to another religion, or tried to switch people to another religion, or someone had sex outside some marriage, etc.!

    We're missing the point, guys.

    To put this in the proper perspective: this entire horrific episode (40+ people are dead as of today, with no end in sight) is because of one thing: people give other people a PASS even if they have a magic dead invisible friend in the sky who was too dumb to even understand what electricity was!
     
  7. Serfin' USA

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    The illiterate will cause chaos as long as we're there.

    The only thing that can be learned from Afghanistan is that nation building is pointless in a country at that level of poverty.

    We barely were able to make Iraq a functional country.
     
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    What do you want....certainly not educated...make some attempt to reach up and get in the gutter!

    All religions want exclusivity for there own brand!

    Does that make the religion wrong or the teachers?

    In my experience...its the teachers and the bigots! I know which one to which you belong!

    But have a nice day...don't think too hard....you might get a revelation...all gods children have the right to walk in the manner of their choosing!

    If any one follows truly the teachings of any religion, bigots like yourself only talks to yourself!


    Highlander
     
  9. wyly

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    They have to care it's their job, they knew when they signed up they could end up anywhere and be doing just about any duty.

    If you don't like kids you don't become teacher... if you're afraid of flying don't sign on to be a pilot...if you don't want to get shot at, sent to third world country wars don't join the US military because that's what they do.
     
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    Interpretation certainly makes a difference when it comes to religion, but the bolded part is a problem.

    It took a while for Christianity to evolve to a state where it was compatible with a modern, free society. Islam, in many forms, is not yet compatible. It's why Islamism is the biggest obstacle to social reform in the Middle East and South Asia.
     
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    I think the people who have done the killing are at fault.
    Usually only a muslim could justify such pointless murder.
     
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    Fair point.
     
  13. GeneralZod

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    Fault lies on all sides. Those who disrepsected faith and those who let their fury ride over them.

    American troops, whether by neglect/intent did start this mess. But what have they done to correct it?
     
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    Islam is the only religion that advocates for the believers to "fight", "kill" "slay" and "smite the necks" of the unbelievers UNTIL "religion is only for Allah".
     
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    So when are you Americans going to get some balls and deal with the reprobates that own your political system!

    You have the right to vote for AIPAC extremists with the colour blue or AIPAC extremists with the colour red......both owned and sponsor your congress men and women, Senators and judiciary!

    Its a pity more Americans haven't the balls or intelligence to know fact from fiction....I suppose its there acceptance of their slavery!
    There true worth!

    Fanatical....since when do Muslims assassinate innocent men women and children...they have some semblance of humanity...whilst your degenerates have not! They haven't secret torture chambers....you do!

    They don't kidnap innocent civilians rape and torture them, your lot do!

    If your looking for fanatics....look way much closer to home, cause there a plenty!


    Regards
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    Slowly I think you'll come to see how wrong you are: you probably won't believe me, but it's true: Mohammad approved of rape, and also approved of torture.

    When he [Muhammad] asked him about the rest he refused to produce it, so the apostle gave orders to al-Zubayr bin al-Awwam, “Torture him until you extract what he has.” So he kindled a fire with flint and steel on his chest until he was nearly dead. Then the apostle delivered him to Muhammad bin Maslama and he struck off his head.” (Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 764)
     
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    That's good, but I make one correction for you: "Usually only RELIGION could justify such pointless murder."

    All religions are bad, not just the cult of Mohammad, as they HAVE to rob you of your logic/reason because if you use logic/reason they don't fully make sense.
     
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    Is that the original islamic translation or the english version. As translations can lose their meanings.

    Saying that i would love to read Nietzsche in the original german.
     
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    Mmmm...I wonder the best way to explain to you....being straight and to the point might assist in this matter.............Bollocks!

    The Talmud the only book that describe all things to all other religions and peoples as goy! Animals....and yet you never discuss these matters.....do you also get paid to produce this bullsh1t!

    Highlander
     
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    Not true at all. If you read the Bible you would know that it is full of very similar stuff.
     
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    Afgans can do whatever they like for all i care, i dont give a (*)(*)(*)(*) if they burn Israeli flags or convert to Judaism.......cant see how anyting over there can possibly affect us, our terror cells sit much closer than Afganistan
     
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    When did Mohamad say anything....for blessed sake deal with today and the degenerates who run your nation!
    Deal with the rape and murder by your military working on your behalf, today!
    Deal with the torture chambers working on your behalf today!
    Deal with the genocide being committed on your behalf today!
    Deal with the American paid mercenaries committing genocide and atrocities working on your behalf today!

    Waken up think of the innocent men women and children murdered by your nation today!

    Bigotry doesn't become anyone!

    Highlander
     
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    21% of the world is absolutely convinced that a rapist, bandit, torturer, pedophile, wife-beater, kidnapper, misogynist, suicidal madman, etc. is the best person who ever lived, and that does NOT concern you!? Amazing.

    Yes, let's get rid of Islam to that there's no more Jihad against the Infidel and no more Sharia Law advocates, and then there will simply be no NEED for troops in Muslim lands, I believe. If not, Somalia, Yemen, Syria...and Iran, will likely have to be invaded to quell the violent Jihad for Mohammad.

    Yes or no, highlander, do the Islamic texts state that Mohammad wants Muslims to conquer the world "for Allah", and did he himself give a very violent example for them to emulate, as the "perfect role model"? We await your reply (not your rant, you logical reply).
    Thanks.
     
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    What nonsense. you could burn bibles all you like and nobody would die.
     
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    You might be right about that. Maybe when Mohammad said to "give to the poor", maybe he really meant, like he did regarding adulterers, Jews who resisted his Jihad, apostates, blasphemers, critics, etc. "KILL the poor."

    If it was really from "god", I think god is smart enough to give the "final message" to people in ALL languages, and not just one hard-to-translate language, such as Arabic, and not just 1400 years ago, but every year, no?
     

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