Do we really have any evidence at all that Osama bin Laden is dead?

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  1. Blackrook

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    I know this is an old issue, but given Obama's lack of truthfulness about his identity, can we really trust anything he says?

    And really, what proof do we have that the official story is true?

    I haven't seen anything in the way of proof.

    I haven't seen any photographs of Osama bin Laden's body.

    I haven't seen any the physical evidence to prove that the man they killed, if any, was actually Osama bin Laden.

    I haven't seen any evidence that they really threw his body in the ocean.

    Really, the whole story is presented by the U.S. government without a shred of evidence to back it up.

    In a court of law, this would not work.

    If I was to go into court and tell a story like this to a judge, and ask him to believe me without any proof of any kind, the judge would give me a long lecture and throw out my case.

    So really, where's the proof Osama bin Laden is dead?
     
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    They did a medical exam to the body before burying it at sea, the results of which positively identified him. If you dont want to believe it, that is your business. The world would not be the same with conspiracy theorists.
     
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    According to whom? I haven't seen that evidence. Was it ever released to the public?
     
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    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20058905-503544.html

    CBS had a story at the time, noting the complete lack of evidence that Osama bin Laden is dead.

    So we must take it on faith.

    It's kind of like religion, isn't it?

    People who scoff at faith in God expect us to take it on faith that Obama really ordered a hit on Osama bin Laden and he really died.

    And please note, the timing was great for Obama. Donald Trump was questioning his birth certificate at the time and the Osama bin Laden death was quite a distraction from that.
     
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    None that I have seen. Worlds most wanted man....killed...dumped at sea...."take our word for it"!

    I am still not convinced he was alive when this supposedly took place. Then again...I am a skeptic and I have a very serious distrust of our government and the defense/warfare state we have become.
     
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    And I havent see evidence that proves that Sarah Palin graduated high school. That doesn't mean it didn't happen.
     
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    They don't normally seek the confirmation of internet trolls. :lick:
     
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    I'm sure that Sarah Palin would be glad to prove she graduated high school if anyone asked.

    Unlike Obama, who has had all his college records sealed, Sarah Palin has no secrets to hide.

    Obama is really the most secretive President we've ever had, and that includes Richard Nixon.

    Many facts about Obama are unknown, like where he was born, what country he is a citizen of, what his real name is, where did he get that phony social security number, and who created his forged birth certificate?
     
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    Since you want to be a moonbat wacko, here's something you can also join.

    The moonbat division of the Republican Party is at it again. The ********* club has never met a conspiracy they didn’t love. They boldly put on their tinfoil hats and head off into the woods to go catch Sasquatch, or whatever else is the absurdity of the day. Now they’re going after the presumptive front runner of their own party, Mitt Romney.

    The birthers are demanding the Secretary of State in California produce “proof” that Romney isn’t an alien. Maybe he really is from Uranus, a left behind deposit from the mothership when it returns to their trailer parks every Saturday night to collect more DNA, or worse yet, maybe Romney is a Mexican!

    Mitt Romney’s dad was born in a Mormon colony in Mexico. Mitt’s great-grandfather had to flee the United States so he could stay married to Mitt’s four great-grandmothers, and maybe that makes Mitt something. Maybe an alien, maybe a Mexican, maybe not eligible to run for president. But Mitt probably isn’t overly concerned about the moonbats in his own party. Like all good Mormons, Mitt undoubtedly wears magic Mormon underwear that makes him invisible, or possessive of x-ray vision, or able to leap over tall buildings in a single bound, or something else.

    But it will be interesting to watch his Republican ********* pals chase him around the country demanding he prove he isn’t an alien. Of course once someone explains to this collection of Mensa rejects that Romney is a Mormon, not a "Mormoon" their interest will probably quickly fade.

    http://now.msn.com/now/0322-romney-vs-birthers.aspx
     
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    Well there is more evidence that Osama Bin Laden is dead than there is for Gods existence, so why not believe?
     
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    Does anyone really care about the evidence? You know the Govt has much more to lose about lying about a dead person who is alive than telling the truth.

    But it's obvious what your intentions are.

    It has no affect on 99.99% of American lives if they see his dead body or not.
     
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    have you heard from him sense the seals killed him, sure we would of had some video's by now if he wasn't

    suppose the birthers want to see a death certificate too
     
  13. raymondo

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    To some people it is one of the most crucial questions that can be made about almost anything in the last 15 years , say .
    However absurd you may think them , some people think there is interesting evidence to suggest that there is real weight to the idea he died early in 2012 in Pakistan from kidney failure and complications .
    If true , the implications are so enormous that I cannot think of a word to convey them accurately .
    The alleged operation that killed him is full of odd procedures and irrational decisions : and putting on one side the idea that he died a decade ago , the manner of his alleged death last year invites questions of anybody with a discerning and analytic turn of mind .imo
     
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    Lol!! There is absolutely nothing done in this world that conspiracy nut jobs can't spin in to a conspiracy. It has no affect on your life whatsoever.
     
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    I hear ya. We are talking about the administration of secrecy here. Covering up Fast and Furious and Solyndra, I wouldn't believe a word from their mouths if their tongues came notarized.
     
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    Still frightened of the big boogey man Blackrook? What about things that go bump in the night?
     
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    Tell me that in about 18 months time when the EU is really sad and battered , contagion has spread to the US , Gas is around $7 and inflation is rising , markets in shreds and a devalued $US .To explain how this traces back to the Dustbin Man is outside the scope of this Topic .
    Another day .
     
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    Of course Obama travelled to Pakistan at the height of the Soviet war with his Pakistani friends and stayed at the home of the man who would go on to become PM. Who paid for all that? Where did he make such contacts?
     
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    Not really. It only invites idiots who believe in vast conspiracies to make fools of themselves.
     
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    Let's not be so quick to condemn someone for not seeing the proof to such a claim. It is within the realm of possibility that he was brought to the USA dead or alive for whatever nefarious reasons the US has to do so. It is highly unlikely but it's not impossible.

    I personally believe he is dead... whether he was brought here or there or whatever is a detail.
     
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    I hate to say it, but I'm still a little skeptical about this, myself. I want to give Obama the benefit of the doubt, but he doesn't exactly have the best track record with honesty. If they had just released the pictures, I think it would have been enough. But since they didn't, there has always been a lingering doubt in my gut.
     
  23. raymondo

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    But why do you get so angry ? It's not as though you are a Nobel Prize winner or even anybody famous .
    And some of your posts are not exactly brilliant . But if we want to half believe in some high risk caper , what harm are we to you ?
    I certainly don't mind making a fool of myself -- it's a stop on the train line to Wisdom Station .
    So behave , Surfer .
     
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    That's evident.
     
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    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uI_SqqJIU14"]Hillary Clinton: Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy - YouTube[/ame]

    You mean like this?
     

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