These conditions and events occurred on 9/11, that are tell tale signs of controlled demolition of the buildings. There was: 1. Rapid onset of collapse 2. Sounds of explosions at ground floor – a second before the building's destruction 3. Symmetrical "structural failure" – through the path of greatest resistance – at free-fall acceleration 4. Imploded, collapsing completely, and landed in its own footprint 5. Massive volume of expanding pyroclastic-like clouds 6. Expert corroboration from the top European controlled demolition professional 7. Foreknowledge of "collapse" by media, NYPD, FDNY Intelligent readers should Go to: AE911TRUTH.ORG for more information
More disinformation you mean.....lower manhattan would have been cooked if the clouds were 'pyroclastic-like
1) If you want to call an hour to an hour and a half "rapid", you may find some opposition. 2) I'm going to have to ask you for a source on this one. I'm not aware of any such report for either building one or two. (or three through seven for that matter) 3) The path of greatest resistance would have been straight up, defying gravity. The least resistance? Down. Just as they fell. None of the buildings collapsed at free fall acceleration, this claim is false. Besides that point: free fall acceleration is not a characteristic of controlled demolition. 4) Have you seen the towers collapsing? Can anyone honestly call that an implosion? Given that many surrounding buildings were damaged in the collapses, the claim of 'falling into its own footprint' are demonstrably false. 5) As pointed out earlier, pyroclastic clouds (like those from volcanos) would have burned people alive. This didn't happen. How is this point (if it were true) an indication of controlled demolition? CDs do not produce pyroclastic clouds. 6) Citation for his claim, please. 7) The media, the NYPD and the FDNY are not in the business of controlled demolition. Is AE911truth making the claim that all of these entities were complicit in the destruction of the buildings? The intelligent reader will not just take the word of a cut and pasted post. Challenge everything. For more information and greater detail, I recommend http://ae911truth.info
Concerning #7: They did suspect WTC 7 was going to collapse, but not because of controlled demolition. Disingenuous point. On the same subject concerning WTC 2 (I believe), Frank DeMartini requested structural engineers be sent up (which was denied because it was deemed to dangerous) because he was worried about a structural failure from what he was seeing on the upper floors. Unfortunately, he was correct because it collapse soon afterwards. Not exactly proof of a CD.
Addendum: I looked around and can't find a source of any kind for this. No one seems to have made this claim for either tower. Also, since they collapsed from the top down, what would explosions at the ground floor accomplish?
Intelligent readers should also go to: http://www.populartechnology.net/2009/06/debunking-911-conspiracy-theories.html Read everything and decide which seems more credible. Of particular interest would be this PDF http://www.implosionworld.com/Article-WTC STUDY 8-06 w clarif as of 9-8-06 .pdf
Intelligent readers will also want to know that AE911truth gave a lecture to Nation of Islam and other "truthers" were not happy. [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4bGLl9byME"]Richard Gage Presentation - Nation of Islam: "9/11: What really happened and why?" - YouTube[/ame] If Gage figures out why this is a problem, I might consider his other opinions. Until then, you're in the same boat as "suede", quoting bad sources with worse associations. We don't need to go to AE911Truth for information on building demolition when we can go to wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controlled_demolition
Just in case there's still anyone who hasn't seen these. [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lw-jzCfa4eQ"]9/11: Explosive Evidence - Experts Speak Out, Full-length, Pre-Release-v1.3; Low-Res. - YouTube[/ame] http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8989407671184881047# [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkCrZZvfCEw"]9/11 Mysteries - [Full Length] - YouTube[/ame] [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSh5o6ca8FM"]Scientists Finds Nano Explosive Material in WTC Dust. April 6, 2009. - YouTube[/ame]
What are you talking about? The subject of this thread is the towers and those videos are about the towers.
The subject of the thread is the false claims made by Richard Gage ans AE911truth. Must you be so insecure and hijack every thread here?
I think everyone who cares has seen them. Not many people believe them though. But hey, if it makes you feel better, keep posting them.
Yeah...everybody's wrong, everybody's false, yada, yada, yada....except for you guys...you're all "spot on" of course. Ugh....sick and obscene (but very "official"). Why don't you guys just admit your jobs here and what they are, who ranks where, etc. Stop the dancing. Just for a few minutes....PLEEEEEEEASE!
Why do you insist on trolling instead of answering the direct refutation of your claims? Oh right. Sorry. Forgot trolling is all truthers have left.
Um . . . okay. I work in the IT department of a small school district in rural Northern California. I am not technically managerial level but greatly influence managerial decisions since our department is quite small. THAT is my full time job. Just once, JUST ONCE, it would be nice if you were to produce some evidence of paid posters on a forum. Oh, and if you want to see some dancing, go check out Fetzer's thread. That dude can dance like no one I've ever seen!!
And I'm a retired newspaper web press operator,living on disability.....wish they paid me to post here,could use the extra money
I'm a partner in my own architecture firm, so a government shill's salary would require me to take a big pay cut.
With people like Fetzer Judy Wood around, the government doesn't need to spend a penny to discredit the truth movement.
You call it "trolling". I call it playing your game and throwing your nonsensical BS back at you, as you're not interest in specific debate..only rhetoric. Thanks for the personal attack, and for being consistent.
Addressing the OP again, to allow him to run even faster: 1) If you want to call an hour to an hour and a half "rapid", you may find some opposition. 2) I'm going to have to ask you for a source on this one. I'm not aware of any such report for either building one or two. (or three through seven for that matter) 3) The path of greatest resistance would have been straight up, defying gravity. The least resistance? Down. Just as they fell. None of the buildings collapsed at free fall acceleration, this claim is false. Besides that point: free fall acceleration is not a characteristic of controlled demolition. 4) Have you seen the towers collapsing? Can anyone honestly call that an implosion? Given that many surrounding buildings were damaged in the collapses, the claim of 'falling into its own footprint' are demonstrably false. 5) As pointed out earlier, pyroclastic clouds (like those from volcanos) would have burned people alive. This didn't happen. How is this point (if it were true) an indication of controlled demolition? CDs do not produce pyroclastic clouds. 6) Citation for his claim, please. 7) The media, the NYPD and the FDNY are not in the business of controlled demolition. Is AE911truth making the claim that all of these entities were complicit in the destruction of the buildings? The intelligent reader will not just take the word of a cut and pasted post. Challenge everything. For more information and greater detail, I recommend http://ae911truth.info
There is no personal attack there. And yes, you do troll. You've even admitted it. However, I've repeatedly posted numerous questions you and the rest of the truthers, including your new superdooper hero Fetzer run away from like scared little school girls. Do you address these points? Do you engage in debate? No. We get your self professed trolling and outright lies that I am not interested in specific debate as clearly shown by my direct addressing of the material at hand. You lose. Again.
You boys attack in groups like cowards, and avoid specific back and forth discussion. You call it running....I call it disengaging the BS group agenda.