UA 175: Who created this fake footage from this rare south view?

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Who altered this footage?

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  1. 7forever

    7forever Active Member

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    Whomever Cloud turned his footage over to, added a black blob. Clifton, did not hear nor see a plane. It would have been coming from his left. Clifton, debunks all video fakery shown on 911. Advance to 2:00 for his real-time account. He says it over and over and over and over. He didn't see a plane because there was no plane to see. The blob cannot be seen south of where it magically appeared. He was about a mile east of the towers and slightly north.

    "I just caught the second explosion on videotape...No, a bomb, I saw it, no plane hit nothin', the building exploded from the other tower floors down."

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  2. Patriot911

    Patriot911 New Member Past Donor

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    Wait... so let me get this straight....

    If the witness sees what you want him to see, the video has been altered.

    If the witness sees what you DON'T want him to see, then the witness is unreliable because video is more reliable.

    :lol: Man, the hypocricy in here is just TOO much!!!! :lol:
     
  3. 7forever

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    There's no plane in this video. The east and west shots are inconsistent, but the fake plane would be seen south of the square building in the open sky had it been inserted. No cgi was added to this clip.

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  4. Patriot911

    Patriot911 New Member Past Donor

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    Pinning your whole case on your opinion of whether or not CGI was added to every video or not is eather pathetic. You're not going to convince anyone of your claims when you can't come up with anything better than pretending anything that disagrees with your claims is made up. :lol:
     
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    The last time I checked, WNBC'S floating orb could not be a missile or chopper, but will always be an unknown floating blob.

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    <sigh> WNBC filmed no 'orb'...it is an extremely out of focus jet you keep showing
     
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    The doors on the midvale school are CGI too.

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    Wnbc filmed an orb along with three other news stations. The orb was in focus and could not have been anything but an orb.:thumbsup:
     
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    You're off if you think ANYTHING you've posted is in focus......it's only because they are OUT of focus that you can make your bullshoot claims of 'orbs'
     
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    The orb is in perfect focus.
     
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    The truth of no planes doesn't have the burden of proving a lie, but belongs to those who say there were planes. Any modern day 911 debate would be about video fakery and the existence of a small object that wasn't a plane or chopper.

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    It wasn't a plane. The media initially either didn't see it, pretended not to see it, or mistook it for a chopper and ultimately were forced to call it 'the plane'. It casts its own shadow confirming it was real and not an artifact. It was a remotely controlled object which apparently was some type of ignition device for the bombs planted inside the south tower.

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    Whaaa whaa whaaa. That is all your posts contain. Whining with no substance.

    Your posts conflict themselves. If a video shows you what you want to see, then it is irrefutable proof. If a video shows you what you don't want to see, it was doctored. You dismiss every person who saw the plane live. You dismiss all the hard evidence. You have nothing but your wild imagination to back up your claims and it does a very (*)(*)(*)(*) poor job doing so.

    Sorry, but your posts aren't credible enough to even raise a spark of doubt, much less convince someone your paranoid delusions are in fact true.
     
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    Chopper 4 is the longest live broadcast before the south tower's explosion that starts around two minutes beforehand. If flight 175 was really involved, it would have been filmed way behind and (southwest) right of the towers at some point during its descent. It had to fly just northeast/past the statue of liberty making a hard right and left turn into the southeast corner. None of this occurs because there was no plane, but a very small orb that floats for less than ten seconds before disappearing behind the towers. It leaves a very distinct shadow in the final seconds before explosion which proves that it literally circled around the south tower before bumping into it. It becomes visible at 2:14 on top right of screen.

    The 911 commission, properly and logically concluded that 175 had to fly over New York Bay in its final seconds, therefore, any object seen west of the towers could not be flight 175. The shadow between the towers seen in three broadcasts is that of the drone, because it logically and officially could not have flown east of Tower 1 in its final 3-5 seconds, which is required to create the shadow.

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    More whacky posts with nothing but delusions to back them up. Thousands of people who SAW FLIGHT 175 fly into the South tower yet never saw any orbs blow your BS theories right out of the water. Your flights of fancy interpretations of the videos are good for a laugh, but nothing else.
     
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    AND.....You still have not answered how all those who saw nothing on the ground, a small plane, or chopper circle the building could be wrong when there's footage of fake planes and an orb circling around.

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    Was it an orb or was it Jimmy Neutron's hover car?

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    It was an orb, that's correct.
     
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    I already explained it many times and posted the clips. The fake plane images from the west circled the towers which is impossible for a real airplane, and the official flight path had fake 175 flying over the bay in the final 14 seconds. The orb passed east of the north tower in the final few seconds which is why the shadow was cast. Flight 175 could not have left a shadow logically or officially, therefore the official myth of planes is in doubt for that fact and many others.

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    Do you HONESTLY think you repeating the same lies over and over and over again makes them any more real? Do you have a single eyewitness of the "orbs"? No? Why! Oh right. You made them up. Plane coming in from the west? Nope. More inability for you to think of anything in three dimensions.

    Just goes to show you that paranoid delusions and lack of knowledge are no match for knowledge, eyewitnesses, videos, and pictures. :lol:
     
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    The area right of the towers when facing south will always be west and plenty of witnesses said west, over Newark, or from the Jersey side. It all means west, which was not flight 175. You're simply a defeated liar.

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    This man had a north view of the towers and saw the drone coming from the west.

    OK, we actually have an "Eyewitness News" reporter, Dr. J. Atlasberg (ph) who was downtown at the time and he is on the phone with us live.

    Dr. J., what can you tell us?

    DR. J. ATLASBERG (ph), REPORTER: Hello, Steve.

    I'm actually uptown at 86th and Riverside. I can see the World Trade Center from about half the building up to the top. And about five minutes ago, as I was watching the smoke, a small plane -- I did -- it looked like a propeller plane, came in from the west.

    And about 20 or 25 stories below the top of the center, disappeared for a second, and then explode behind a water tower, so I couldn't tell whether it hit the building or not. But it was very visible, that a plane had come in at a low altitude and appeared to crash into the World Trade Center.

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    Your own video shows it coming in from the south. :lol: You've still lost.
     
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    The witness, all orb footage, and anything coming from the right was west. You will always be a 911 loser.:crazy::xd:
     
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