Jobs Recession Now 49 Months: Longest Since WWII. Thanks Obama!

House Republicans Have Tried To Eliminate Up To 6.7 Million Jobs In 2011



http://politicalcorrection.org/factcheck/201106270010

Since the Republicans took control of the House in January, they have made deficit reduction their top priority. However, while Republicans dutifully argue that slashing spending will create a positive "environment for job creation," their proposed budget cuts will cause significant job losses in the near-term. In just three bills this session, House Republicans have voted to eliminate between 4 and 5 million jobs, with some economists calling their estimates "conservative." Including proposed legislation that has not yet passed, House Republicans have attempted to eliminate up to 6.7 million jobs.

 

Complete Leftninny BULLCRAP.

REALITY: TODAY, UNEMPLOYMENT UP, JOBS DOWN.

 

That's a complete lie. There was a short one-time increase for the purposes of conducting the census. There have been nearly 1/2 million public sector jobs cut since 2009.

Sabotage.

 

Yeah...duh is right.

 

Nice try Todd, but we've already seen this movie before.

It's just a remake of that 2009 Obama blockbuster the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act.

You know, that trillion dollar flop that did so badly at the box-office and created very few jobs.

Although reports are that African men now know how to clean their penis thanks to Der Black Fuhrer.

 

We've tried trickle-down economics for the past 30 years in increasing measure.

It's time to toss that POS on the trash heap with "unfettered capitalism".

Taxes are the LOWEST they have been for DECADES.

Where are these mythic "job creators"? Seems as though they are nothing more than right-wing unicorns.

 

Kind of kills the Reagan was for small government LIE!

Quick tell Groky someone the small government myth is exposed he should vote democrat for smaller government!

then again consistancy is in short supply !

 

What I actually said:

Read much? "Duh" was,and remains right....


More federal workers' pay tops $150,000


The number of federal workers earning $150,000 or more a year has soared tenfold in the past five years and doubled since President Obama took office , a USA TODAY analysis finds.


The fast-growing pay of federal employees has captured the attention of fiscally conservative Republicans who won control of the U.S. House of Representatives in last week's elections. Already, some lawmakers are planning to use the lame-duck session that starts Monday to challenge the president's plan to give a 1.4% across-the-board pay raise to 2.1 million federal workers.



http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2010-11-10-1Afedpay10_ST_N.htm

Not to mention the population has gone up nearly 100 million people since 1980. Let's look at the TOTAL FEDERAL EMPLOYMENT NUMBERS, SHALL WE?




Try to keep up, will ya?

 

Horsecrap. We've been trying take from George to give to Paul for about 20 years now...

TODAY: Jobs down; unemployment up. You can try every "spin" you can think of, but the American electorate will rightly blame the current administration...seeya.

 

Have any Repubs stepped up to help carry the load? No, they haven't. That's because they hate common people. They only care about white male millionaires and billionaires.

 

Hey look! The Daily Kos has sent out tonght's marching orders! The GOP will do exactly that after they throw out the Romper Room Administration and Senate,and the adults start governing the nation, again.

Of course, within 48 hours of the GOP taking office, stories about "the homeless" will suddenly REAPPEAR on every major news source, after miraculously disappearing since, oh, January, 2009 or so.

 

Isn't the Senate controlled by the Democrats?

Der....

 

Every time I one of these charts which tries to ask an odd question in order to get a graph to look right on a chart, I know something's up. Was "Federal Workers per Thousand US citizens" ever an issue that anyone discussed or brought up? That was not the statement Grokmaster brought up. The fact is, under Obama 123,000 federal employees have been added to the payrolls.

If you are going to engage in debates, you should at least try not be deceptive. That chart clearly shows you are trying to pull a fast one.

Duh indeed.

 

You know something?

I honestly don't know where the jobs are hiding.

In a free market capitalist system they can come from many places that you or me - or Obama - has no clue of.

That's the beauty of capitalism for free market capitalists.

And the curse for central planning socialists like Obama.

He thought big government had the answers and clearly he was dead wrong.

 

Yep...Freedom is Messy!

Stateists HATE IT..for that reason. It doesn't fit into their neurotic, anal retentive, OCD neat little boxes...

 

I talked to a small business owner today. He told me that no one is hiring because of the added costs they must pay for Obamacare.

The business owner also said that in his discussions with other business men that stop by that they have nothing but bad things to say about Obama. They really hate Obama.

 

They will have to get used to it. They are obligated to hire and pay fair living wages or they should be shut down forcibly.

 

That perfectly crystallizes why a small businessman may be afraid to hire.
You said that in a way that I couldn't have. No lefty would have let me get away with it, so thanks for clarifying the liberal attitude to the places where jobs actually come from.

 

If you accept the pay offered, how could it be considered unfair? Weird logic...

 

Ah, yes...the "moral obligation to The Hive" argument.....
meanwhile, the authoritarian progressive left endlessly redefines, further subjectifies, or altogether ignores morality.

They need you to be "moral" and hand over more and more of your rights and liberty to earn and amass private property... and **** about it or suffer their wrath...

but ask them about the morality surrounding their support of abortion, of outright government theft of private property, of openly lewd gay pride parades on the commons, or the vandalism and filth and depravity rampant within the OWS movement....

and they'll scream "rights and liberty" every. (*)(*)(*)(*)ing. single. time.

 

Standard diversionary tactic.

You say: "Because Obama INCREASED Federal payrolls by more than ANYONE SINCE WW2."

Yet the information you provide doesn't speak to that fact.

So let's address the disinformation that you are perpetuating in your post that I quoted above:

President's salary freeze for federal workers gets a cold reception

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/11/29/AR2010112906112.html

Winter is not officially here yet, but a freeze is falling over the federal workplace.

Don't expect a spring thaw.

Unlike Mother Nature, who provides warm conditions at regular intervals, Uncle Sam plans to freeze federal salaries for two years.

Resulting in:

http://www.federalnewsradio.com/?nid=189&sid=2620687

Public-private pay gap increases to 26 percent

Federal employees make on average 26 percent less than their private sector counterparts.

The National Federation of Federal Employees said the Bureau of Labor Statistics report on Friday shows a "substantial disparity" in private-public pay.

"Federal employees have known for years that lower pay was one of the many sacrifices they made by choosing to serve their country. This may however come as a surprise to those in Congress calling for draconian cuts to federal pay and benefits as a means to 'bring federal compensation more in line with the private sector.' The reality is that bringing federal compensation practices in line with the private sector would require a hefty pay increase for federal workers," said NFFE President William Dougan in a statement.

The pay gap announcement came during a BLS report to the Federal Salary Council, which determines locality pay each year.

Last year's pay gap was 24 percent. Federal employees are in the midst of a two-year pay freeze that started in 2011.

The growing gap is "not surprising" considering the pay freeze, said Colleen Kelley, president of the National Treasury Employees Union, in a statement.

Lol. I understand why you don't want to mention that. One would logically conclude that 100,000,000 new people would require ADDITIONAL federal employees to service their needs.

Do you do a basic fact check before you post ANYTHING? What the hell, man... this is ridiculous. Why do I have to do your research for you? Do you have a solid grasp on anything that resembles reality or do you just take the pablum that they are spoon feeding you and wash it down with a large glass of whatever flavor of Kool-Aid it is that they are currently serving?



So do you understand what you are seeing here or do I need to explain it to you?

Eh... I have some stuff to do so I'll go ahead and explicitly state my point since the right-wingers on this site seem to lack the ability to infer reasonable and salient points from the information that they are given.



2,987,000 fed employees when Reagan started (I realize that Reagan was inaugurated in 1981, I'm just using the information that I have).
3,233,000 fed employees when Reagan left office (I know, 1989... I use the stats that I'm given).

Is that an increase or a decrease in pure numbers?

Is 3,233,000 MORE or LESS than 2,841,000 (2010, last numbers for civilian fed workers that I could find)?

Ok, Ok... I know this is just the "civilian employee" count. So let's take a look at the total figures:

_________________Reagan
1981 4,982,000
1982 4,972,000
1983 5,039,000
1984 5,088,000
1985 5,256,000
1986 5,228,000
1987 5,301,000
1988 5,289,000
1989 5,292,000
_________________Obama
2009 4,430,000
2010 4,443,000

These are total numbers.

Now is 4,443,000 (2010 under Obama) MORE or LESS than 5,292,000?

As you stated the population grew by a huge number of people. These people still expect services. The employee/population ration DECREASED between Reagan and Obama.

A quick note, I looked for 2011 and 2012 figures but didn't find them right away. I may revisit them later but I have some errands to run. I would like to point out that YES, there was a spike due to the Census, but that spike has evaporated and the federal job reduction has continued.

If I am "falling behind," it's because I at least make an effort to support the facts that I state while you just seem to spout random unsubstantiated nonsense. I'm not saying that I get everything 100% right but at least I ATTEMPT TO SUPPORT my main arguments.

 

Right, Comrade. This isn't a communist nation, despite the Leftninnies' ongoing efforts to make it one.

No one is FORCED to work for anyone,and everyone is FREE to start their own business, and work for themselves.

It's called "Freedom", although we all know how bitterly Leftninnies hate it.

 

Let's just skip your ridiculous "spin" and deal with the actual numbers.


Largest-ever federal payroll to hit 2.15 million


"....The new figures are contained in the budget that Mr. Obama sent Monday to Congress.

Mr. Obama says the civilian work force will drop by 80,000 next year, mostly because of a reduction in U.S. census workers added in 2010 but then dropped in 2011 after the national population count is finished. That still leaves 1.35 million civilian federal employees on the payroll in 2011.

From 1981 through 2008, the civilian work force remained at about 1.1 million to 1.2 million, with a low of 1.07 million in 1986 and a high of more than 1.2 million in 1993 and in 2008. In 2009, the number jumped to 1.28 million ."

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/feb/02/burgeoning-federal-payroll-signals-return-of-big-g/





THE CBO found that Federal employees NOW make 16% MORE than their private sector counterparts.

Confirmed: Federal Workers Earn More Than Private Sector Counterparts



The Congressional Budget Office found Monday that federal workers are compensated 16 percent more than comparable private-sector workers on average. The finding is bound to inflame disputes between Republican and Democrats as to how much to reduce the deficit by cutting federal worker pay.

The CBO found that the advantage federal workers enjoy varies by educational level. For those with only a high-school degree, workers earned 21 percent more and were given benefits worth 72 percent more than in the private sector. For college graduates, wages were about the same but benefits were 46 percent better in the government. Meanwhile for advanced degree holders, wages were 23 percent less than in the private sector and benefits were about the same. The main contributor to the difference in benefits is the defined-benefit pension plan that most federal employees receive. Such generous retirement packages are vanishing from the private-sector workplace, replaced by 401K plans in which companies contribute far less, if anything at all.

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/guyben...rs_earn_more_than_private_sector_counterparts



People making OVER $150,000 per year, as Federal employees, basically doing OFFICE WORK, have DOUBLED UNDER OBAMA, and the TOTAL NUMBER of FEDERAL EMPLOYEES is UP OVER 100,000 since Obama took office.

See? The FACTS are VERY CLEAR when one is telling the simple Truth. Only when one has to distort, spin,and outright lie, does one need a pile of arbitrary "variables" ,and pretty little charts, in an attempt to HIDE the Truth.




Meanwhile ,TODAY, JOBS ARE DOWN, UNEMPLOYMENT IS UP, and the MARKETS HAVE TANKED.

"Spin" that...we all know better.

 

Bain Capital Saved America

In the 1980s, the resilient U.S. economy saved itself from becoming Europe. Bain was part of the rescue.

Not only did Bain Capital save America, but no matter what turn Mitt Romney's political career takes, Bain Capital may stand as the best of Mr. Romney's lifetime contributions to the nation's economic well-being. If only he'd tell the story.

We are of course putting forth "Bain Capital" as not merely the Romney private-equity house but as the stand-in for the period of American economic history that ran from 1980 to 1989. Back then it was called the Greed Decade, with asset-stripping barbarians at the gate. Virtually everything about this popular stereotype is wrong. Properly understood, the 1980s, including Bain, were the remarkable years when an ever-resilient America found a way to save itself from becoming what Europe is now—a global has-been.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204555904577169032997242246.html

 

Clinton to Obama: Don't attack Romney on Bain
AZCentral.com12 hours ago

Jun 01, 2012 · Clinton to Obama: Don't attack Romney on Bain, Friday's dismal jobs ... of trying to discredit Romney. That began with attacks on his role at Bain Capital .