Graphic Video: Muslims Slaughter "Apostate" in Tunisia

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  1. Serfin' USA

    Serfin' USA Well-Known Member

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    That's what a lot of people claim when they kill someone arbitrarily in a lot of these countries. They said similar things with some of the recent "incidents" in Egypt.
     
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    I have NO idea what the truth is........
     
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    We're not involved in Tunisia, so I don't know what you're going on about.
     
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    Why not? Is it really that far-fetched to believe he was killed for apostasy? It's not like it's an uncommon practice in a lot of this part of the world.

    Or are we supposed to believe all the gays killed in Iran were actually pedophiles?
     
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    There are no gays in Iran. ;)
     
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    They were folowing shrine shintoism, not buddhism. The Japanese state religion was shrine shintoism. Buddhism is another religion that lives parallel to shintoism at the time and still do, since some rites don't exist in (*)(*)(*)(*)oism, funerals for exemple. Zen is a philosophical spinoff from taoism, which BTW still exist and is practiced today all over the world. If you practice an oriental martial art like Tai Chi or kung fu, you are practicing a form of taoism and zen.
     
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    I agree and I was rather hoping that someone will reveal it as a forgery.
     
  8. OJLeb

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    Ahem...

     
  9. Tyrerik

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    Sorry but that is not revealing it as a forgery, it is merely a claim slung out without a shread of evidence.
     
  10. OJLeb

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    lol it's so easy to deny something, even harder to look it up.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-JO-gMyM5A
     
  11. Tyrerik

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    What evidence is there in either case, Syria or Tunisia? I could post the same video saying that it depicted Egyptian revolutionaries meting out justice on a "felool". That wouldn't be revealing it didn't happen in Tunesia or Syria would it?
     
  12. OJLeb

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    Ya haram...

    You completely miss the point. This video being claimed to be the beheading of an apostate in Tunisua has been uploaded to YuoTube a month BEFORE under a different title.

    It doesn't matter if it says Syria, Egypt, Sweden, Mars, or even Hell, as that is irellevent.
     
  13. Tyrerik

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    From the youtube poster: It should be noted that this video was shown recently (start of June, months after it surfaced and weeks after I posted it ) on an Egyptian TV programme and presented as the beheading of a Christian convert in Tunisia and has since been presented as such online

    So there was a period in the order of months between the video surfacing and the posting on 5th May and then around a month before it being shown on Egyptian TV with a different story. It would hardly be the first time for the true story to surface later if indeed this is the case, would it? It appears to be genuine to me and most likely a victim of Islamists somewhere but the fact is the origin of this video and what it depicts must be considered unknown at this time and until further evidence comes up.
     
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    What about the part right after that?

    "I cannot rule this out completely as I don't know the original source .However it is very unlikely. The terrain, dialect and clothing are suggestive of Syria, certainly not Tunisia. The man is insulted using words that are used to denigrate Shia suggesting this man is likely to have been an Alawite not a Christian."

    And this comment:

    TimeToFightBack1 (2 hours ago)

    Read my description you complete fool.

    How did I edit this video from the TV show (which was Egyptian not Tunisian) when I obviously had it and posted it (look at the date) long before they even knew of it's existence. I have had this video for months.

    The reports stating that this video was from Tunisia are fictional and based purely on the fact that an Egyptian TV host said it was. This video was filmed in Syria and the man being killed is a Shia or Alawite.


    So, you say it is not clear were the video is from, yet stand by the apostate story... For what reason? What benefit do you get thinking this is the gruesome murder of an apostate?

    And please do not try to twist my question into making it seem like I want to hide what is happening. I say this because some members on here never fail to amaze me.
     
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    Really, what does it matter? It's just some Yabba Dabbas killing another Yabba Dabba that is different from the other Yabba Dabbas and thus turns them into Yabba Dabba rage boys. It doesn't matter what Yabba Dabba country it's in because they are all the same.
     
  16. Tyrerik

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    What about it? The user agrees with what I have stated, that without knowing the original source nothing is sure. He/she goes on to state a personal evaluation of the terrain etc. I have no basis to know what weight his/her evaluation carries. Unlike you I can't simply believe it because I want to! In any case what I really meant as a forgery was the beheading itself not where it happened. Regarding the comment I am in the habit of springing over such crude writings however since you find the exchange significant I read it. It is not entirely clear whether the poster is confusing Tunisian TV with Egyptian though that does seem to be the case. If that is the case then obviously his accusation can't be correct. Whatever, a false accusation does not grant greater credibility to a claim.

    Correct I say it is not clear where the video is from. Having an open mind is not "standing by" the apostate story. In fact I have serious doubts over both stories. I find it more likely that assuming this is genuine then it is the work of an Al Qaeda like group and the video has come into the hands of others and is being used to smear in both cases. I don't base what I believe in what benefits me!
     
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    Fair enough. Then what proof is there that this is in Tunisia and this man is being killed as an apostate - while being insulted as if he was a shia Muslim.
     
  18. Tyrerik

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    I thought that was pretty clear, there's precious little evidence and no proof at all. I repeat, I hope its a forgery and nobody got hurt.
     
  19. Jack Napier

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    Well either........


    A) Those are little different from the words of any cult leader. Possibly more robust.

    OR....

    B) He never said them, and they were added much later, for political reasons.
     
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    [video=youtube;PCblw0_ls7M]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCblw0_ls7M&feature=g-logo-rec[/video]

    We burn our heretics. Our bombs also burn a lot of people for democracy too.

    They were going to burn the people at Ruby Ridge too.

    So how can we really criticize these so called Muslims when we do the same thing on a far grander scale for example as we are doing in Lybia and Syria?
     
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    Here is the link
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=sxGWlOQZyEs&skipcontrinter=1

    One must wonder if this human atrocity is done officially or by overzealous individuals wanting to score another one in public and have their 15 minutes of fame.

    Islam is an infamy in this case... and without reform this cult belongs to the 10 century AD.
     
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    Here is the original article by Raymond Ibrahim

    Graphic Video: Muslims Slaughter Convert to Christianity in Tunisia
    ~by Raymond Ibrahim
    Gatestone Institute
    June 4, 2012

    http://www.meforum.org/3256/tunisia-muslims-slaughter-christian-convert

    Raymond Ibrahim is an Associate Fellow at the Middle East Forum and a Shillman Fellow at the David Horowitz Freedom Center.

    Here is the original article by the most eloquent Raymond Ibrahim
     
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    lol... Raymond Ibrahim...

    Anybody associated with Horowitz has absolutely no credibility when it comes to discussing Islam.
     
  24. Mandrake

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    Easy Peasey. Those people committed crimes, such as owning illegal firearms. When the Feds showed up to make arrests, they shot at them. You can't honestly expect law enforcement to just turn away after getting shot at and say "Well, we can't arrest them, they are too tough."

    Now then, an angry flash mob of muslim rage boys killing some poor mook because he's different is in no way related.
     
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    "Islamophobe" is a non-Muslim who knows too much about Islam.
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