US ambassador 'killed in Libya'. US consulate Benghazi stormed. 4 US officials "dead"

I am shocked and horrified at this if it is confirmed and my sincere condolences to our American friends and loved ones.

This incident confirms my concerns that diplomatic missions in "war-on-terror" countries are not being properly secured by being located in a properly secured and defended military bases.

This reminds me of the storming of a UN base in Mazar-e-Sharif when 7 UN workers were killed in April 2011. The guy responsible at the time for UN security - Gregory B. Starr, the United Nations Under-Secretary-General for Safety and Security, is an American who used to be employed as the person responsible for the security of US diplomatic bases.

I have further concerns that the US & NATO countries' military these days lack the military knowledge and competence even to able to secure our military bases. Bases can't be properly secured in or near an urban area. You need a security zone of cleared and controlled ground of at least 6 miles, but 10 miles is better, around a military base to keep enemy fire from rockets and mortars out of range.

If you don't control the ground around a base this happens - 3 were killed at Bagram Air Base, Afghanistan yesterday.

We've been at war in Afghanistan for nearly 11 years now and still the US and NATO military are operating out of insecure bases! Our supply routes in Afghanistan have never been secured and recently a decision by NATO-ISAF (commanded by a US general) was taken to close bases along the main highways in Afghanistan making the roads even more insecure.

The military and security leaders we are depending on to keep our personnel safe during this war on terror are incompetent and our diplomats would be well advised to have no faith in them. If I was a diplomat in a country with security problems I would quit and come home until we get proper military and security people in charge.

So there is a pattern here of incompetence at the very highest levels of leadership in the United States, NATO and the United Nations.

The people in charge are incompetent and this is very serious folks. We need urgent action to get competent people in post. We need a shake up at the highest levels of government on the military and security side especially. This can't be allowed to go on.

 

So, not being satisfied that the US acts almost like an occupying force in several countries, you now also want them to kill indiscriminately in them as well since you do not differentiate between so called allies and not so called allies.

 

this, along with many other reasons, is why oboobma has to go. We cannot have essentially a Muslim as our President.

 

A State Department officer was killed, not the ambassador.

 

The producer/director of the film is an Israeli.

http://www.haaretz.com/news/middle-...e-sparks-deadly-libya-egypt-protests-1.464459

 

So? what if he is?

 

Ah yeah, more of that muzzy love.

It's clear, and has been for some time, that world can not "get along" with these barbarians. They will not play nice with everyone else.

 

Here's a little tip; take your bases out of countries they have no business being in, and nobody gets attacked. Simple.

 

Libya not one of the "war on terror" countries. Its one of the "arab spring" countries.

 

The film projects the life of Mohammad that the Muslims call 'Prophet'... if this pedophile, thief , hijacker of Caravans, murderer (he killed the members of three Jewish Tribes = a few thousand Jews) that proves that the Arab people are backward as they want to hide behind a fantasy... Their beliefs have not changed from the Seventh Century today... 1400 years after Mohammad no advancement whatsoever...

Margot what if the producer is Jewish? A Jew is not allowed to state his own opinion?... Am I not allowed to tell my readers what Mohammad represented before he crowned himself 'G-d's Messenger and later Prophet? You Muslims are not going to impose your will on anyone, in addition to your backward beliefs...
Regrettably if America withdraws its 3 Billion dollar help and the Europeans do the same... at the rate the Egyptians are reproducing and not creating food to feed their people... they will be forced to eat each other...

I was writing about Cairo being dirty...now they created another eyesore by destroying the American Embassy... Egyptian you are out of your minds!

 

And then there is the real world

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-19570254
http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news/national_world&id=8807511
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/09/12/libya-ambassador-idUSL5E8KCAQA20120912
http://www.cnn.com/2012/09/12/world/africa/libya-us-ambassador-killed/index.html

 

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By U.S. sponsorship you have Bombed Libya back into the Stone Age
You should expect a bit of BlowBack, unless of coarse you be Stupid

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The Europeans bombed Libya into the stone age. One of our citizens made a film, and this is the blowback

 

Obama has ordered "heightened security" and the story so far is that means 50 more marines are on the way to Libya. That's an inadequate response.

It's not enough to "order heightened security" if by that you mean ordering the same incompetent fools currently in charge of security to continue in post but to try to do a proper job this time despite still having no idea what to do.

The President should -

• Sack and replace the Secretary of Defense (Panetta) with someone who will sack incompetent generals and appoint competent ones
• Sack and replace the Secretary of State (Clinton) with someone who will sack incompetent security officials and appoint competent ones
• Close all vulnerable diplomatic embassies and consulates in countries with a war-on-terror connection, with an armed jihadi terrorist groups threat
• Establish new secure embassies and consulates within new or existing military bases
• Site new military bases for the embassies / consulates in rural areas where the land for 6 to 10 miles around the embassy can be occupied and controlled
• Site about 60 defensive machine-gun posts 1000 metre / 1000 yard intervals around a circumference at a radius of 6 miles from the base,
• Surround the machine gun posts with barbed wire and vehicle barriers
• Man the 60 machine guns, 3 men per gun, 24/7 with a force of about 540 marines per base,
• Vastly increase the size of the Marine Security Guard from the small force now of about 1000 to the many thousands of marines it will take to secure all the new bases

Sorry "ordering heightened security" simply doesn't cut it.

 

In the Arab Spring, democratic flowers can bloom and terrorist weeds can grow at least until a new gardener does some weeding.

In other words, once the old authoritarian Arab regimes have been overthrown there still is a political and military battle for supremacy between successor political forces, between our friends the democrats (whom we ought to support) and our enemies the jihadis (whom we ought to oppose). There is still a war on terror to be won in that country.

Democracy is not simply the absence of an authoritarian state - it is the presence of a democratic state that is strong enough and willing enough to crush undemocratic forces.

 

The Libyan ambassador I heard today was the guy who supported the Benghazi Saudi funded Wahabi rebels that eventually ousted Gaddaffi.
He was all for these rebels when they raised the AQ flag over the Benghazi courthouse once they liberated it from Gaddaffi.

That was the guy who cheered when US jets pounded Libya and released 20,000 missiles into the hands of the Wahabi militias who now run Libya. Those same missiles that they use to attack UN convoys and ambassadors and public buildings.

That ambassador was probably listening to people like Margot who was telling him that Saudi Wahabi are lovely guys and will not turn their guns on him.

The Israeli Jew (with all his hate speech and propaganda) and the Egyptian Copt both living in the USA who made the film did not help matters for ANY American currently living or traveling in the region.

 

and that is not going to happen if you continue to support the non democratic authoritarian totalitarian Wahabi regime of Saudi Arabia that funds the terrorists and teaches the Wahabi ideology which is sweeping the region on a wave of petro dollars

 

The US Embassy in Cairo is not destroyed, the consulate in Benghazi was destroyed ( more or less). The outside perimeter of the US embassy in Cairo was breached ( the outer wall leading into the courtyard) but the embassy itself was not breached. So please get your facts straight before you post.

The rest of what you have written deserves to be ignored and so it shall be.

 

I did not say the Cairo embassy was destroyed?

 

No Abu, you didn't but Bendor did. Sorry for the confusion.

Post 10 "I was writing about Cairo being dirty...now they created another eyesore by destroying the American Embassy... Egyptian you are out of your minds!"

 

Morsi Makes First Foreign Visit to Saudi
Mohammed Morsi makes his first official foreign visit to Saudi Arabia
http://www.majalla.com/eng/2012/07/article55233042

What was that you were bleating?

 

The radical, insane, salafists are up to no good. The majority of those that bring problems for everyone else, commit violence, and act heinously towards humanity are those that believe in the INSANE Wahhabism and it's teachings. Saudi Arabia being the forefront for the teachings of this neanderthal, barbaric belief.

 

Leader of Al Qaeda is Zawahiri, an Egyptian. Former member of Muslim Brotherhood and member of Islamic Jihad. Following an egyptian, salafist ideology. Pretty much identical to the Saudi Ideology.

 

What behaviors and characteristics do you find to b common among Saudis?

 

Sorry.. Zawahiri is a follower of Sayeed Qutb... who emerged from the Sufi sect.