US ambassador 'killed in Libya'. US consulate Benghazi stormed. 4 US officials "dead"

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  1. dixon76710

    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    Thats nice, why are you sorry?
     
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    Oh I'm disappointed!. I thought Libya and Egypt were free, democratic dreamlands since they have got rid off their evil dictators.
     
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    How many Libyans were killed by US bombs, bullets, chemicals, and terrorists that the Glorious USA imposed on Libya rather than real diplomacy?

    After the treachery we committed against Libya, no USer in his right mind should want to be there.
     
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    I wouldn't go down the paedophilia road if I were you Bendor, unless you want to be labelled a hypocrite.
     
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    This whole mess is Obama's fault. Everyone keeps saying he's a great Commander in Chief when in fact he is an idiot and a moron.

    After Bush invaded Iraq, Libya's Khadaffi threw away his nuke materials and started cooperating with the CIA. What does our idiot dog-eating Kenyan do? He throws out a cooperative leader, installs our enemies, and now our people are dead.

    Egypt's Hosni El Sayed Mubarak was a friend and a peaceful neighbor to Israel. What does our jackass president do? Helps topple Mubare, installs our enemies, and now our embassy is attacked, plus they are threatening the peace with Israel.

    And the one place where NoBama should have helped topple the government, in Iran during their uprising, what does he do? Absolutely nothing. Is there anything more revealing about this slimey traitor Obama? And is there anything more revealing about the corrupt media that does not tell this story?

    Oh, yes yes, Obama got Bin Laden. Big freekin' deal. So the generals come to him and say, "Sir, we know where Bin Laden in. Should we get him?" Guess what people, there is only one correct answer: "Yes." So big freekin' deal, Obama gave the answer to a question where there was only one answer. That's his big claim to fame as a Commander in Chief? Give me a break.

    Obama is responsible for all the deaths taking place right now. He is a traitor to this country. He should be impeahced, tried, and imprisioned for life. And anybody who votes for that lowlife is a full fledged imbecile.
     
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    I wouldn't go in any road that thinks other religions are backward.
     
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    Are you calling him a pedophile? Because thats the only way he'd be a hypocrite.
     
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    This wasn't Obama's fault. Mubarak would have been toppled no matter what. Even if Romney was president, this same film would have been released and the ambassador would have been killed. Really, think about it. Obama had absolutely nothing to do with this. What good would have come supporting Mubarak anyway? His people had spoken. Better forge links with the new leaders than waste time on a toppled failure.
     
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    I disagree. Mubarek would have defended himself if he knew we had his back.
     
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    You call Obama a 'moron', and immediately follow that statement with, 'After Bush invaded Iraq...'? I can tell you who the bigger moron is, and whose idiotic actions in invading Iraq began this whole Muslim backlash. Can you guess who it is yet?
    Let's go back in time a little-to Iran, 1953. Who was it that toppled the democratically elected Mossadegh government, installed a murderous puppet dictator whose reign led to the Islamic revolution, and all the problems with that country that you're now whining about? Think for once in your life!
     
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    Nope; it's his religion which advocates paedophilia. And he goes mysteriously quiet when relevant links are posted for his perusal. http://www.come-and-hear.com/sanhedrin/sanhedrin_69.html
     
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    http://cannonfire.blogspot.com/2012/09/nakoula-b-nakoula-is-spooked-up-(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*).html


    Wednesday, September 12, 2012


    Nakoula B. Nakoula is the spooked-up (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*) who got our ambassador killed


    "Sam Bacile," the likely Mossad operative who produced the film that led to so much outrage (see previous post), has been identified as an American citizen who was born as a Coptic Egyptian. His real name is Nakoula Basseley Nakoula. The information we have on him is pretty telling:

    Nakoula, who talked guardedly about his role, pleaded no contest in 2010 to federal bank fraud charges in California and was ordered to pay more than $790,000 in restitution. He was also sentenced to 21 months in federal prison and ordered not to use computers or the Internet for five years without approval from his probation officer.

    The Youtube account, "Sam Bacile," which was used to publish excerpts of the provocative movie in July, was posting comments online as recently as Tuesday.

    Ah yes. How many times have we seen this pattern? First, a shady low-life gets into trouble with the law. Then the spooks find him, whisper in his ear, and promise to make all of his problems go away -- as long as he plays along with some bizarre scheme. For quite a few years, I've called it the "Three R" trick -- the three Rs being Terry Reed, Michael Riconosciuto and Gunther Russbacher.

    Think about it. Who the hell is going to loan Nakoula -- a guy guilty of freakin' bank fraud -- the sum of five million dollars? Even if the actual budget was $50,000, how would this jailbird scrape up the dough? He was sent to prison for 21 months in 2010; how did he secure an early release?

    You can't make a movie of any kind -- even a student film -- if you can't communicate via the internet.

    And what sort of crook would make it his first order of business, after walking out of jail, to make a movie denigrating Mohammed -- a film intentionally designed to create an international incident? If you had no job, no prospects, a prison record and a debt of more than three-quarters of a million dollars, would your first instinct be to make a (*)(*)(*)(*)ed movie? Even though you've never made a movie before in your life?

    And why would said crook also throw in some slurs against the Occupy movement?

    If this creep cared at all about the Copts in Egypt, he would know that a stunt like this is the last thing those Christians would want, especially at a time like this. For decades, the Muslim Brotherhood has had an extremely suspicious and (at times) threatening attitude toward the Copts, who have always sought harmonious relations with Egypt's Islamic majority. The Copts never -- ever -- insult the followers of Mohammed. The church does everything it can to keep the peace. At this moment, the Coptic patriarchy must be scared to death. (There is no official Pope of the Coptic Church right now, since Pope Shenouda III died recently and the church often waits months before investing a successor with the title. The acting Pope is a Bishop named Pachomius.)

    Crew members who worked on the film say that they were grossly misled about its content. Apparently, a very different film was shot; crude overdubbing laid in the slurs against Mohammed. The New York Times says that a full film may not even exist, although it has been confirmed that some version of it did play after hours at the Vine in Hollywood. (The Vine is a dump that ran porn for many years. It's the only theater on Hollywood Blvd I've never entered.) The NYT also seems to think that the reported $5 million budget is suspicious:

    Still, a film of this sort — with rudimentary props and costumes, cartoonish visual effects, poor lighting — would be relatively easy for amateurs to make. Digital video cameras can be purchased for $3,000 or less, and relatively sophisticated video editing software is widely available. Casting can be as simple as posting an ad on Craigslist or tacking a flier to a Starbucks bulletin board.

    Actually, you can get an HD Canon camera adequate to this task for under $500. (I once saw a camera used on a feature film go for under $200 on an ebay auction.) Many actors will work for free, or for very low wages. All of this suggests that the "budget" is actually a pay-off. Take note of the amount of money he owed in restitution.

    This is an operation. Spooks recruited NBN. Make no mistake about that. Since NBN did time in an American prison, then whoever offered him the deal must have been in a position to make his parole problems go away.

    What irritates me is that this is all so bloody sloppy. The spooks behind NBN put no thought at all into their work. It's an insult to our intelligence. You remember that episode of The Simpsons where Homer enters into the Witness Relocation Program wearing a t-shirt bearing the words "Witness Relocation Program"? NBN might as well be wearing a black windbreaker with MOSSAD on the back. Even people who take pride in proclaiming that they don't believe in conspiracy theories are saying that this one is a real conspiracy.

    How can anyone say otherwise, now that we know that the attack on the Libyan embassy was planned well before NBN's production hit YouTube?

    Fortunately, this (*)(*)(*)(*)ty trick is not working out very well for Mitt Romney. His team blew their lines. (Timing is everything, fellas.) It's just too bad that a fine ambassador had to die as part of this pathetic Mossad scheme to put the Mittster in office.

    Incidentally, NBN's partner, Steve Klein, has been identified as an insurance agent in Hemet, California, a desert community best known as one of the headquarters for Scientology. Get this:

    The Southern Poverty Law Center said Klein is an ex-Marine who has trained church members in "the art of combat."

    Again, I'm not surprised by any of this. Spooks use dumb-ass merc wanna-bes all the time. They are malleable and deniable. More on Klein:

    It [the SPLC] described Klein as founder of Courageous Christians United, which conducts protests outside abortion clinics, Mormon temples and mosques.

    It quoted Klein as saying he believes that California is riddled with Muslim Brotherhood sleeper cells "who are awaiting the trigger date and will begin randomly killing as many of us as they can."

    Doesn't like Mormons, eh? Maybe he didn't know that he was party to a plot to put a Mormon in the oval office. The website for Courageous Christians United offers these thoughts on Romney. (Also here.)
     
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    "you"? Who? Me?

    I don't support the Saudis. Your analysis is one that I share.

    One other point - the Arabian "petro dollars" pay for 10s of billions of dollars of US (and other Western) military equipment and other goods and services.

    So our stupid governments' short-sighted view so far seems to have been that Saudis are "good for business" if "bad for terrorism".

    Whereas my solution would be to regime-change the Saudis and do equally good business with the Arabian successor regime(s), although I presume they will be more democratic and they'll probably want to spend their petro-dollars on other things, you know, for the people.
     
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    Under Mubarak, the Egyptian TV satellite "NileSat" broadcast anti-US, pro-terror TV. This video shows a channel supporting and organising the terrorism in Iraq which was killing US and allies soldiers.

    [video=youtube;SxLSVF3T1nI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxLSVF3T1nI[/video]

    Mubarak was like Musharraf of Pakistan, taking US money, billions of dollars, smiling to our officials' faces, yet organising anti-democratic forces across the region because none of those military dictators ever wanted the democratic idea of free and fair elections to catch hold in the region because they knew they'd be out of power and into jail for their abuses of power against their own people.

    So whilst Obama has his shortcomings as a commander in chief, your Pope would be no better. At least Americans get a vote for president. Since when did Catholics get a vote for the Pope?

    By the way, NileSat and the Arabian satellites still broadcast enemy propaganda so we ought to take control over those satellites to stop that.
     
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    LOL! So does NBC !!!
     
  18. Peter Dow

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    No it doesn't except on the times they broadcast Reagan saying ' "Government is not the solution to our problem, government IS the problem." - Ronald Reagan '

    So presumably Reagan ran for president to stop government doing things like regulating broadcasting, because government regulating broadcasting IS the problem, according to Reaganites, yes?

    So for Reaganites, the lack of government over NileSat is no problem and they should be allowed to continue to broadcast terror TV?

    And all you Reaganites have to say about terrorism caused by "No government", all you have to say abut 9/11, Iraq, Afghanistan and the thousands of Americans killed in the world because of terrorism is "LOL". Shame on you buddy for doing America down.

    Well I say, know your enemy - an ungoverned, unregulated NileSat.

    NileSat Know your enemy


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    For all you guys know Al Jezerra, a CIA operation, forced the Egyptians to run "anti-USA video.

    But then, when one remembers how anti-American President Johnson was when he conspired with the Israelis to sink the USS Liberty and kill all on board, how can people know what is pro-American and anti-American, especially when so many of America's friends were attacked by the USA?
     
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    Its absolutely shocking that the news is promoting the Taliban position and covering up the real truth. This murder of our ambassador and attacks in Egypt have nothing to do with some stupid movie about Mohammed, they have to do with the anniversary of 9/11. And Obama should have been prepared for 9/11 anniversary attacks, but he wasn’t because he is an imbecile, and now people are dead. But as usual, the press is covering up for Obama’s ineptitude and blaming Americans just like the Taliban want them to. Its disgusting.
     
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    The Taliban position about this is not being promoted by our news.

    Our press and TV news are reporting what journalists in Libya, where the US Consulate was burned and stormed, are learning from what Libyans are telling them.

    The Taliban are a terrorist group sponsored by the Pakistani military intelligence which recruits its members from the Afghan and Pakistani Pashtun tribes. The Taliban are the ones killing our soldiers in Afghanistan. They used to be the government of Afghanistan but now they operate out of Pakistan.
    Whereas the US Ambassador was killed in Libya, North Africa. Afghanistan & Pakistan are in Asia.

    So the Taliban are thousands of miles away from the killing of these Americans. :whisper:

    Here's an excellent webpage which shows the distance between Libya and Pakistan which is 3157 miles.

    http://www.distancefromto.net/distance-from/Libya/to/Pakistan

    That's further than California to New York, Sea to Shining Sea, at 2400 miles but not as far as Alaska to Florida at 3800 miles.

    [video=youtube;6OgJYGrx49Y]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OgJYGrx49Y[/video]

    I suppose for those who live in a Big Country, people 3000 miles apart could easily be the same country but not this time.

    I agree that a big country doesn't deserve an imbecile for a president - even if he can shoot basketballs. Better with a president who thinks BIG!

    [video=youtube;0WVD3uSM8WY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WVD3uSM8WY[/video]
     
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    I am not! But the Poles get the cake.... You want to discuss the life of Mohammad? I am ready!
    I suggest though before you do, to study some material on that particular matter.
     
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    I agree with you CC. The movie is a smokescreen.

    These attacks are mini-911s. I suspect that will be made clear as more analysis and commentary is received
    They are not likely to go away soon as the Tunisian American-school incident has shown.

    If my suspicions are correct, then they will have the same motivation as the original 911, and we know exactly what that was, don't we.
    As G.W. Bush said, it is because they envy our freedom and our democracy, and we all know that he never lied. So let us look for the real reason.
    Who would know that better than the perpetrator of the heinous project? Osama. What reason(s) did he give? Let us check his infamous 29th October 2004 videotape. As far as I am concerned, the following is as good a version of the core of his message as any:

    Did the US take heed?

    For instance, how much closer are we to the creation of a Palestinian state than in 2004?
    How much have we condemned Israeli aggression and massacres in the interim ... especially the invasion of Lebanon in 2006 and the classic example of Operation Cast Lead (2009), plus the total lack of US condemnation thereof?
    Do we think that since September 2001, Fellujah (November 2004) and the NYT testimony on Abu Ghraib (2004) have improved our image?
    How do you think radical Muslims view Osama's assassination?
    Do you think that mainstream American belief that Iran should be invaded, based on 'credible suspicions' that Iran is building a nuclear bomb, has helped its case?

    Do you think the CIA reports of massively increased support for Al Qaeda is unrelated to the above?

    Did we really think that with the attitude to Muslim states in general and lack of condemnation of Israel's Gaza massacre or active support for the creation of a Palestinian state, and the earmarking of Iran as the next (oil) country invasion would go unnoticed?

    All such killings by both sides are reprehensible. I do not believe that one race's blood is more precious in the global view, than that of another race.

    In 2004 Osama said: "People of America, ask yourselves why". Did you? So forget the movie; look at the big picture of where we are versus 2001, and do the math, unpalatable as it might be.
     
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    Perhaps it was just prelude. Now many Muslims choose forms of radical Islam like Wahhabism. Islamic radical (terrorist) groups have a well-developed infrastructure and operate all over the world. There’s a highly probable terror threat as bad as or worse than 9/11. US and its allies must call the red alert.
     
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    see what jewish did it, jewish made film, and us ppl kill! thats called true the politics..
    how stupid is us? :O
     

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