Proof positive no plane flew over the Pentagon

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  1. Jango

    Jango New Member

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    The 'witness' said they folded back.

    From all of the photographic evidence that I have scoured, I have been unable to find anything resembling that of a wing.

    So that leaves us with this: 'The wings both exploded into much smaller pieces that do not resemble wings'

    Right?

    Okay. So what is the probability of that?

    That both wings, the length of the wing, would disintegrate into such unrecognizable pieces that do not resemble wings - if they did as the witness said, and folded back.

    Or are you not claiming that after they impacted the wall at 500MPH+, folded back, they then exploded?
     
  2. LoneStrSt8

    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    Judging by the video of the F-4 Phantom jet hitting the concrete wall,the probability is very high

    Lets not also forget that the wings are also just two big fuel tanks just itching to explode with the jet fuel sloshing around in them.
     
  3. Jango

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    Hey, the witness said they folded back.
     
  4. LoneStrSt8

    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    which ones said that?
     
  5. Jango

    Jango New Member

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    Watch the video in post #220, please.
     
  6. LoneStrSt8

    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    Now then,why should any part of the wings be recognizable?
     
  7. Hannibal

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    Why so incredulous?

    What's so unbelievable about the wings striking the building, folding back into the fuselage of the aircraft and still exploding as they went in? It would explain the lack of a 'roadrunner' hole.

    Your witness also states that it was an AA aircraft, not any kind of missile.
     
  8. Patriot911

    Patriot911 New Member Past Donor

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    Hey Jango. What is inside the wings? Here is a hint. It goes boom when exposed to flame. What do you suppose that is going to do to the wings when they folded back? One thing is for certain; just because the wings folded back, one cannot just assume the wings would be whole and recognizeable laying out on the lawn.
     
  9. Phoebe Bump

    Phoebe Bump New Member

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    I believe a plane flew into the Pentagon. Still no proof that it WASN'T an inside job.
     
  10. DDave

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    What he said was . . .

    "What I saw was the actual jet going in with the wings folded back like this. So that's why when you look at the hole, you say "Well it's not big enough." Well that's why. The wings were not strong enough to withstand the impact. They folded back and that's why the jet went in and that's why the hole that you see isn't as large as you might imagine in another structure."

    Can you please point out for me what he said in that passage that makes you wonder where the wings are in the pictures that you posted? I gave you a little hint as to why you can't see them in the picture.
     
  11. Patriot911

    Patriot911 New Member Past Donor

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    So where is your proof it WAS an inside job?
     
  12. RtWngaFraud

    RtWngaFraud Banned

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    Well...the wings...LOL

    Depending on which version you choose to entertain, they either disintegrated, folded back and destroyed themselves, melted, were destroyed on impact, exploded into a billion pieces and then disappeared, or, evaporated in the fireball. Like I said....depending...
     
  13. Jango

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    Okay.

    They didn't blow up when they hit the wall, they folded back and apparently did not explode until when? After the entire plane slid into the building?

    Does that make sense?

    Why wouldn't the highly volatile jet fuel explode after impacting the wall at several hundred miles per hour? That would cause sparks and holes, no? It apparently folded the wings back entirely, all without an explosion.
     
  14. Jango

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    Wouldn't explosions from the sides hinder the forward movement of the penetrating air craft?
     
  15. LoneStrSt8

    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    No reason they should.
     
  16. Hannibal

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    Are you trying to say the reporter is lying about what he saw?
     
  17. Patriot911

    Patriot911 New Member Past Donor

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    How long does it take something going 500+ miles an hour to go 155 feet? Well, let's see. There are 5280 feet in a mile. Take 500 and multiply by 5280 to get the number of feet traveled in an hour and you get 2,640,000. Divide that by 60 to get feet per minute and by 60 again to get feet per second and you get 733 feet per second. Divide 155 by 733 and you will find out how long it takes a plane to go 155 feet which is the length of a 757. The answer? Just over two tenths of a second. That is how long it would take the entire length of the plane to enter the Pentagon.

    Because things don't happen instantaniously. Thus the purpose of putting the timing into perspective. The wings are about one third of the way back, so the time for the plane to enter the building completely from the time of the destruction of the wings until the fuel explodes is even less. Regardless, the point is by the time the fuel ignited, the plane was either all the way into the Pentagon or so far in that any explosion would not affect the plane's path of destruction.
     
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    Did anyone say it didn't? Where did the fireball come from?
     
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    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    Are you stuck?
     
  20. Jango

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    Well, Mike Walters didn't say, "The wings exploded and then folded back."
     
  21. Hannibal

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    Perhaps you should contact him directly.
     
  22. Phoebe Bump

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    There's no proof. Why don't you fund my investigation and give me subpoena power and waterboarding authority. My investigation would be the first.
     
  23. Patriot911

    Patriot911 New Member Past Donor

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    :roll: More truther lies. No investigation? No proof? That would be funny if it weren't such a serious matter. *******s don't give a (*)(*)(*)(*) about trashing the lives of three thousand Americans though. Anything to pretend there is a conspiracy and to blame Bush even though their claims would implicate their messiah Obama. :lol: Some people can't see the forest for the trees and don't realize the fire they are trying so hard to light would burn down their house as well. They are all short sighted idiots.
     
  24. DDave

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    So if Mike Walters didn't say the wings exploded then that means they didn't?
     
  25. happy fun dude

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    As long as the Pentagon's made out of Jell-O.
     

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