Boy Scouts face release of damaging child sex abuse files

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  1. Think for myself

    Think for myself Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Rather disturbing, wouldn't you say?

    Apparently the BSA's have a series of files of folks who have molested boys in their organization.

    Now over the years, despite having knowledge of these sexual abuses, the BSA's failed to notify authorities that a child had been molested and instead, in some cases, were complicit in the continuation of the abuses.

    What in the hell is wrong with these people that they woudl not turn in child molesters to police? Does allowing the continual sexual abuse of children somehow fit in with the motto and slogan of the scouts? Was preserving the appearance of their organization more important than protecting children?

    What a poor display of poor behavior by the BSA's.

    http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/201...elease-of-damaging-child-sex-abuse-files?lite

    The Boy Scouts of America could face a wave of bad publicity as decades of records of confirmed or alleged child molesters within the U.S. organization are expected to be released in coming weeks.

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    On Sunday, the Los Angeles Times reported the organization failed to report allegations of sex abuse of scouts by adult leaders and volunteers to police in hundreds of cases from 1970 to 1991. In some cases, the Boy Scouts helped the accused "cover their tracks," the paper said.

    The story was based on a review of 1,600 internal Boy Scouts case files the newspaper said it obtained that detailed accusations against confirmed or alleged child molesters within the youth organization.
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    About 1,200 "ineligible volunteer" files dating from 1965 to 1985 are set to be publicly released under a June order by the Oregon Supreme Court, including some already reviewed by the newspaper.

    Those files played a key role in a 2010 civil trial in which an Oregon jury found the Boy Scouts liable in a 1980s pedophile case and ordered the organization to pay nearly $20 million in damages.

    The files will be released within three to four weeks, said Paul Mones, one of the attorneys representing the plaintiff in the Oregon case.

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    In the wake of revelations about systemic child sex abuse within the Catholic Church and the recent Penn State sex abuse scandal, the files threaten to damage the reputation of one of America's most trusted institutions.

    Mones said the allegations revealed in the Oregon case are not necessarily comparable to the Catholic Church's sex abuse scandal.
    "In the Catholic Church there were overt cover-ups, and I don't think you see a lot of that here with the Boy Scouts," Mones told Reuters on Sunday.

    The Boy Scouts of America said in a statement on Sunday that while it regrets past incidents where scouts were sexually abused, its current policies require even suspicions of abuse to be reported directly to law enforcement.

    "The BSA (has) continuously enhanced its multi-tiered policies and procedures, which now include background checks, comprehensive training programs and safety policies," the statement said.

    The organization said it has maintained an internal "ineligible volunteer" file since at least 1919 to prevent suspected or confirmed child sex abusers from joining or re-entering its ranks.


    Boy Scouts of America officials and attorneys have said the files represent only a fraction of the adults who participate as scout leaders each year.

    The Boy Scouts have annually counted between 3.5 and 5 million scouts and more than 1 million adult leaders and volunteers among its members since the 1960s, a spokesman for the organization said.

    The organization is facing more than 50 pending child sexual abuse cases in 18 states, according to Kelly Clark, another plaintiff attorney in the Oregon case.

    Mones said he did not expect many new lawsuits to result from the upcoming release of the Scouts' files, predicting that statutes of limitation on sex abuse charges in most U.S. states would prevent victims from successful civil or criminal prosecution of alleged molesters.
     
  2. Zosiasmom

    Zosiasmom New Member Past Donor

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    So do the public schools. Google it and you'll see there are more incidences of pedophilia in the public school system than anywhere else. Can we defund them? Please?


    But seriously, where there are children there will be pedos. It's what they do.
     
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    I personally believe that every homosexual who is caught molesting boys in the Scouts should be shot the following sunrise.

    Homosexuals ruined the Catholic Church and they may do the same for the Boy Scouts.
     
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    I see zero evidence presented by you that these child molesters are homosexual.
     
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    The Catholic Church "ruined" the Catholic Church by hiding the molestations going on. Anyone that gives Tithe to those (*)(*)(*)(*)ing bastards should rot in hell.
     
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    Aren't they males touching other males? Now, there are cases where pedophilia doesn't have hetero/homosexual barriers, but in all reality; men touching boys is quite queer, for lack of a better word and to use a clever alliteration.
     
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    Does the same apply to anyone who pays taxes to the public school system? There have been far more molestation incidents there. The only reason the Catholic Church (and now the Boy Scouts) scandals are even as notable as they are is because of their religious affiliation, if they were secular institutions it would be notably less focused on by the left.
     
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    Well i am not the left and i am focused on it. I hate child molesters. Its that simple. Has nothing to do with religion. And please show me that public schools have decades of pedos they hide to not damage their precious image.
     
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    Here:

    http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-215_162-1933687.html

     
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    This attitude shows a common ignorance about pedophilia. Most pedophiles are identified as straight and lead "straight" lives, even after they are convicted.

    Homosexuality is an attraction to adults of the same sex. Pedophilia is unrelated to adult sexuality precisely because the attraction to pre-pubescant children means the victims are largely indistinct in terms of gender.
     
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    I'm rather well-versed on the topic, actually. Homosexuality is not merely an attraction to adults of the same sex, there are homosexual teens; there are even cases of children displaying significant signs of homosexuality before puberty.

    There are many pedophiles who are married and live normal heterosexual lives, but it's laughable to argue that it's not homosexual behavior to touch another male (if one is a male).
     
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    None of which is pedophilia.
    Well, then, it's a good thing no one is arguing that.

    What we are arguing - correctly - is that a practice of disallowing only openly, self-identified, homosexuals of both genders from being Boy Scouts or Scout leaders does nothing to affect the chances of a leader sexually abusing a Scout, because pedophiles do not self-identify as homosexuals. In other words, there is no safety generated by this policy.

    If you're actually "well-versed on the topic," assuredly you know that there is a disconnect between what sexual behavior people engage in, and how they identify their sexuality. The classic example, I guess, is the woman who "experiments" with other women in her youth, but refers to herself as "straight." Right?
     
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    Who argued that? I said that a man touching a boy was a homosexual act, which it obviously is. Another poster said that any homosexual caught touching boys in the Boy Scouts should be shot. While it may be extreme to some, I see how some can easily say that. I'm not seeing what the argument is, or what you are contending.
     
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    Did someone tell you that it was the wives and girl friends of the scoutmasters who were screwing the boys?

    It's my understanding that these pervert are males and that means homosexuals.
     
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    The Church did hide the homosexual activity among the priesthood.

    And the Church deserves blame for that.

    But the reason the Church had something to hide is all the homosexual priests who were molesting little boys.
     
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    You are the one who is confused.

    Or in denial.

    This is a case of homosexual men molesting boys.
     
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    That's impossible!

    Them there queers ain't allowed in the Boi Scouts!
     
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    The problem is that the Scouts don't know they are queers until its too late and another young boy is damaged for life.
     
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    No, the church had "something to hide" because they are morally bankrupt and couldn't care less about children being damaged. They wanted to retain priests, and they didn't care who got hurt.
     
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    What you don;t get is lts of "straight men" engage in homosexual behavior when they are horny and want to get off, and happily do it with vulnerable children.


    It would be nice if someone wanted to "shoot" these STRAIGHT guys as well as the "homosexuals"! :roll:

    In other words, we shouldn't care if a pedophile is straight or homosexual, he is a PEDOPHILE!
     
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    Nuh uh! I ken tell them flamin' queers from a mile away! All queers smell like parfume!

    Swish, swish!
     
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    I agree that enabling the activities of the homosexual priests was a form of moral bankruptcy by the hierarchy of the Church.

    But the gay priests were the root of the problem.
     
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    I guess not since Catholic priests are not allowed to wear perfume.
     
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    But dem (*)(*)(*)(*) wear dresses! An purty hats! frikkin hoomersexuals!

    jes like jeezus...(*)(*)(*) wore dresses and had long flowing hair and petted sheep. did he (*)(*)(*)(*) dem too????
     

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