US gas prices falling...

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  1. DonGlock26

    DonGlock26 New Member Past Donor

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    I can't until Romney is president and things get far better. The progressives will be using font size
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    in their praise over the good economic news.
     
  2. Iriemon

    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I bet they wouldn't.
     
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    Terrapinstation Well-Known Member

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    Well I gotta say, after 4 years of complete economic disaster, seeing how gas has finally dropped a few cents and unemployment a few points, Obama may have my vote. I don't find it at all a coincidence that things sucked for 4 years, only to 'improve' a week before the election. No coincidence at all. I guess his awesome policies just needed a full 4 years to really kick in. I bet if he's reelected, gas will drop to $1.68 and unemployment to 4%.
     
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    Do you write that while wearing a blue cap or a red cap?
     
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    Beevee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Can you explain how gas prices are significantly higher in all western countries as well?
     
  6. Iriemon

    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Or you could vote for Bush Redux and see if the same policies all over again leads to another economic disaster like Bush left us.

    That's a sure why to get gas prices down fast.
     
  7. Iriemon

    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Or you could vote for Bush Redux and see if the same policies all over again leads to another economic disaster like Bush left us.

    That's a sure why to get gas prices down fast.
     
  8. RP12

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    Im not big on hats ~ So ignore both parties play the same game and try to be cute ~
     
  9. Brewskier

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    Obama and his Energy guy wanted Europe level gas prices. I don't think seeing low gas prices is on the progressive radar.
     
  10. RP12

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    You did. His name is Obama.
     
  11. Zxereus

    Zxereus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What was the reason when Bush was president?
     
  12. Terrapinstation

    Terrapinstation Well-Known Member

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    Who was in that forced banks to give mortages to every welfare-collecting crackhead that applied for one? Was it Bush? Romney? McCain? My memory isn't what it used to be, but for some reason I'm think liberals were largely responsible for that.
     
  13. Iriemon

    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Fabrication.
     
  14. Iriemon

    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You're mistaken. Obama's policies are substantially different from Bush's. Romney's are substantially the same.
     
  15. Iriemon

    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No one.

    Your memory is no doubt addled by all the right wing propaganda you ingest. We see that here a lot.
     
  16. RP12

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    We have been through this before. Frankly i know i am correct and your copy and paste jobs and obsession with Rush wont change that.
     
  17. Terrapinstation

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    LMAO. Obama never took part in any legal cases against banks for lending practices???
     
  18. Iriemon

    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Might have. So what.
     
  19. Consmike

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    Get back to me when it goes back to $1.80/gallon
     
  20. Iriemon

    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Get back to me when the economy goes back like this:


    January 2009

    Job loss: Worst in 34 years
    Employers slashed 598,000 more jobs in January [2009] as unemployment rate climbed to 7.6%.

    NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- Employers slashed another 598,000 jobs off of U.S. payrolls in January, taking the unemployment rate up to 7.6%, according to the latest government reading on the nation's battered labor market.

    The latest job loss is the worst since December 1974, and brings job losses to 1.8 million in just the last three months, or half of the 3.6 million jobs that have been lost since the beginning of 2008.


    http://money.cnn.com/2009/02/06/news/economy/jobs_january/index.htm

    Market players were also disappointed by reports that U.S. home prices fell 8.7% year-over-year in November, U.S. housing starts fell 15.5% in December, and weekly initial jobless claims rose 62,000 to 589,000.
    http://www.businessweek.com/investor/content/jan2009/pi20090122_192905.htm

    On Wednesday, the 30-stock Dow Jones industrial average finished with a loss of 248.42 points, or 2.94%, to 8,200[/B].

    http://www.businessweek.com/investor/content/jan2009/pi20090114_103250.htm

    598,000 Jobs Shed In Brutal January

    Unemployment Hits 7.6% as Downturn Picks Up Steam

    The need for progress on those fronts seemed more important than ever yesterday, as the Labor Department announced that conditions worsened more than expected last month. The nation's employers shed 598,000 jobs, the most since 1974, driving the unemployment rate to 7.6 percent from 7.2 percent. If the jobless rate keeps rising at the pace it has for the past two months, it will hit double digits in summer and reach its highest rate since the Great Depression by the fall.


    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/02/06/AR2009020601156.html

    GROSS DOMESTIC PRODUCT: FOURTH QUARTER 2008 (PRELIMINARY)
    [Real gross domestic product -- the output of goods and services produced by labor and property located in the United States -- decreased at an annual rate of 6.2 [later revised to 9.2] percent in the fourth quarter of 2008, (that is, from the third quarter to the fourth quarter), according to preliminary estimates released by the Bureau of Economic Analysis.


    http://www.bea.gov/newsreleases/national/gdp/2009/pdf/gdp408p.pdf

    Continued Unemployment Claims at Record High
    In the week ending Jan. 24, the advance figure for seasonally adjusted initial claims was 588,000, an increase of 3,000 from the previous week's revised figure of 585,000.

    http://www.calculatedriskblog.com/2009/01/continued-unemployment-claims-at-record.html

    And if Bush Redux gets elected, there's a reasonable chance of that.
     
  21. Iriemon

    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Get back to me when the economy goes back like this:


    January 2009

    Job loss: Worst in 34 years
    Employers slashed 598,000 more jobs in January [2009] as unemployment rate climbed to 7.6%.

    NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- Employers slashed another 598,000 jobs off of U.S. payrolls in January, taking the unemployment rate up to 7.6%, according to the latest government reading on the nation's battered labor market.

    The latest job loss is the worst since December 1974, and brings job losses to 1.8 million in just the last three months, or half of the 3.6 million jobs that have been lost since the beginning of 2008.


    http://money.cnn.com/2009/02/06/news/economy/jobs_january/index.htm

    Market players were also disappointed by reports that U.S. home prices fell 8.7% year-over-year in November, U.S. housing starts fell 15.5% in December, and weekly initial jobless claims rose 62,000 to 589,000.
    http://www.businessweek.com/investor/content/jan2009/pi20090122_192905.htm

    On Wednesday, the 30-stock Dow Jones industrial average finished with a loss of 248.42 points, or 2.94%, to 8,200[/B].

    http://www.businessweek.com/investor/content/jan2009/pi20090114_103250.htm

    598,000 Jobs Shed In Brutal January

    Unemployment Hits 7.6% as Downturn Picks Up Steam

    The need for progress on those fronts seemed more important than ever yesterday, as the Labor Department announced that conditions worsened more than expected last month. The nation's employers shed 598,000 jobs, the most since 1974, driving the unemployment rate to 7.6 percent from 7.2 percent. If the jobless rate keeps rising at the pace it has for the past two months, it will hit double digits in summer and reach its highest rate since the Great Depression by the fall.


    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/02/06/AR2009020601156.html

    GROSS DOMESTIC PRODUCT: FOURTH QUARTER 2008 (PRELIMINARY)
    [Real gross domestic product -- the output of goods and services produced by labor and property located in the United States -- decreased at an annual rate of 6.2 [later revised to 9.2] percent in the fourth quarter of 2008, (that is, from the third quarter to the fourth quarter), according to preliminary estimates released by the Bureau of Economic Analysis.


    http://www.bea.gov/newsreleases/national/gdp/2009/pdf/gdp408p.pdf

    Continued Unemployment Claims at Record High
    In the week ending Jan. 24, the advance figure for seasonally adjusted initial claims was 588,000, an increase of 3,000 from the previous week's revised figure of 585,000.

    http://www.calculatedriskblog.com/2009/01/continued-unemployment-claims-at-record.html

    And if Bush Redux gets elected, there's a reasonable chance of that.
     
  22. bodyforlife

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    Don't get me wrong Serfin'. But I do get tired of these type of arguments being used for justification. I put in my original comment because these same clowns found a day where gas prices were essentially the same a couple of months ago and tried to claim that there was no change (and for that specific day/week, they were correct, but using their stupid semantical argument was absurd). I simply wanted to throw it right back in their faces and told them I would if they tried this one close to the election when we all know the prices were less.

    I also get tired of nonsense like Iriemon's cut and paste jobs and him claiming that people are doing better. The only way you could claim that is to take people's net worth 4 years ago and compare it to today. And of all my friends and family (most being home owners)...none are doing better. And that includes the profits they've made from this Bernanke manipulated stock market. Coincidentally we've done two refi's. We just completed one a month ago and did one four years ago. If I were to sell my house now, we're looking at $525k. Had I sold it 4 years ago, it would have been $635k. It is a fact that the average household income is down approximately 5%. It is also a fact that if you look at the CPI and INCLUDE gas and food (why they do this bs "ex gas and food" is just stupid...they claim it's because those two are the most volatile...yeah, so what....it's what everyone across the board has to pay for). It is also a fact that if the labor force was the same as it was 4 years ago, unemployment would be over 11% (hence we have the most people on food stamps in our history and tons of people claiming disability...think the last count was these claims have increased by 3 million). And if you were to look back to previous recessions (and we have one approximately every 10 years), the country typically has a robust recovery. The ridiculous claim that this was the 2nd coming of the Great Depression looks even more silly when most Economists claim that the recession ending in June of '09 (so let me get this straight...in 6 months Obama parted the sea and the next Great Depression ended...sorry, not buying it). But if indeed the recession ended then, where's the robust recovery? I'm simply not going to waste the time listening to nonsense. We have an election in 7 days. Hopefully there are enough intelligent people around that don't believe things have improved to where they should be.
     
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    The economy doesn't have to be crappy for gas prices to be low. Fail.
     
  24. Iriemon

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    That is exactly why it went from above $4/gal to $2/gal in a few months. Fail.
     
  25. Consmike

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    Using your logic, whenever gas prices were low, the economy was bad. Sorry, that isn't the case. move along. Obama is toast.
     

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