Ranking the presidents, best to worst

Just leaving people alone does not solve the problems that the orcs who do not leave people alone cause. Libertarianism is a shamanistic cult.

 

But you can generally put some of their overall policies in either the top half or the bottom half. In my opinion its the Presidents that did very little that were the best. Kind of how they just took minor steps and let the country work that is the best.

FDR simply was doing far too much stuff that was unconstitutional and even tried to stack the Supreme Court so he could get stuff through it. He's out.

Lincoln basically tore up the Constitution in his quest to get his way. He's out.

Woodrow Wilson is similar to FDR but more on a global scale.

Hoover was simply too hands off and took zero action when the country started to nosedive.

Basically there's not alot of Presidents on that list that were very good.

Teddy Roosevelt was probably one of the best as was Taft. Taft actually did his best work when he later joined the Supreme Court however.

 

I'll stop you when you get to something President Obama HAS done, those are ALL bush the failure.

Stupid people are everywhere.

 

Horrible list. Woodrow Wilson, Abraham Lincoln, Lyndon Johnson, George W Bush, and FDR should be the bottom 5.

 

Every single one of those examples are things Obama has done.

Bush created $500 Billion deficits, Obama created $1.6 Trillion deficits. Bush started a War in Iraq and Afghanistan. Obama waged war on Libya without congressional approval, started a drone war in Yemen and a proxy war in Somalia. Bush started Medicare Part D without discovering how to pay for it. Obama created Obamacare, without discovering how to pay for it. Bush kept interest rates to 1%. Obama is keeping them to 0. Bush bailed out Banks. Obama bailed out Banks, the Auto Industry and the Foreclosure market. Bush enacted tariffs to protect the failing steel industry. Obama enacted tariffs on Chinese tires, solar panels and high powered batteries to protect his failing Green industry. Bush created No Child Left Behind. Obama expanded Government Guaranteed Student Loans making education much more expensive.

Let me know if I have to dumb this down for you any further.

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Lincoln bothers me most of all. His stupid hypocritical ideology is responsible for the deaths of 750,000 Americans. And that war still rages today. Lincoln was a bigot, just like the republicans of today. He wanted to deport the blacks to Panama after the war. He NEVER believed blacks were equal to whites. The civil war was all about corporate profits, which is why the south wanted to secede. Peirce and Buchanan tried to keep a lid on the civil war, because they knew it would destroy the economy. They were vilified for NOT killing all those Americans.

160 years later, the same hatred is still going on. Doesn't say much for the progress of this country does it.

 

The two Roosevelt's should be up in the top five. While many say FDR's policies made things worse, that is debatable. At least he tried to make things better by creating jobs for millions when there were none. He changed the policy with banks, insuring depositor's money, part of his New Deal. He created Social Security, Help to shore up prices so farmers could make a living, etc.,etc. No not everything worked. But many of his policies are still in effect today. The man was elected 4 times, that has to show you how popular he was.

I don't know about Obama being placed 15th. It's to early to say where he should be. Higher or lower. It could be either depending on how things go.

 

pretty accurate, but to claim that racism only exists in the GOP is really stupid. Racism is alive and well in the dem party and the obama administration, Bush's administration was much more diverse. The following are examples of racist democrats---Jackson, Sharpton, Rangel, Pelosi, Reid, Holder, Obama, Biden, Jackson-Lee, Belafonte, all of hollywood, most of the MSM.

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I agree to a point about Lincoln, he did have a different view of blacks than we do today, but lets face it even with his views he was way ahead of most at the time.
To measure his opinions by today yard stick is a unfair.
The country was very divided long before he took office so the war can't be blamed on him, it was going to happen no matter who took office.

How he handled that war is where his greatness comes into play. I will agree that he is at time much over rated.

 

No facts were presented, the poster as well as many others are in fact party line parrots.
Thats not name calling, it's stating fact.

"pathetic blind sheeple." that is name calling as well has hypocritical.

 

And your party wants to destroy all of it.
They have a great deal of his policies and it has turned out very badly.
I still have to wonder why anyone supports the destruction of their country by supporting the conservatives.

 

Sacrificing thousands of lives for corporate profits has always been the trademark of the GOP. The more things change, the more they stay the same.

 

If obama came up to your front door and said " I hate america and want to convert it to a marxist state" you would claim that Bush made him say it and he really loves everyone and should be president of the entire world. You are totally in the tank for the guy regardless of who he is and what he does.

You are a member of the obama worship congregation and you will not be confused by facts-----------we all know who and what you are.

 

No, he doesn't. It's his go-to excuse. It's his own personal way of dealing with the situation he's not happy with. What better way to rationalize Obama than to pretend he shouldn't even be president. It's the same mechanic at work with the birthers, just taking a different route.

 

Hmmm, Viet Nam--------Kennedy, Johnson----------------and nixon ended it. Kinda looks like the dems were responsible for 58,000 ameican dead and billions of wasted dollars-----or evil corporate profits according to you.

 

Eisenhower started it, don't forget that part.
Kennedy wanted to end it but didn't have time, LBJ failed in Vietnam, pure and simple, he should have never listened to the joint chiefs and McNamara.
Nixon lost the war and hoped no one would notice, and he got his wish, just not the way he wanted it.

 

China and Hong Kong are two different countries. You could have at least looked this up before spout your inaccuracies.

They're not economist, teachers, historians nor are they military/foreign experts. All they do is study Presidents.

So why should I consider their opinion?

 

But wait------------you said the only republicans started and escalated wars for evil corporate profits----did LBJ change parties? Nixon did not lose viet nam, he ended it, it was going to be lost before it was started, just like Iraq and Afghanistan will go down as american losses. We won the first Iraq war but did not finish the job, and thereby turned it into a loss.

We are never able to learn from history----probably because real history is no longer taught.

 

Eisenhower did not start it.

Truman sent advisors in 1959 first of all. Eisenhower sent a couple hundred more and some money for aid to South Vietnam but refused to send combat troops or provide air cover. Kennedy ramped everything up then did die before he could rescind it. LBJ of course is the main reason we got into it.

 

Anyone who doesn't have W Bush, Woodrow Wilson, Nixon, Obama, LBJ, FDR and Grant at the back of the list, really has no business making a list ranking presidents.

 

The war was started because Lincoln wanted to keep the nation together, not corporate profits. True slavery in the South was tied to profits and war always makes corporations rich.. But Lincoln was willing to give in on slavery in the South to keep the nation together. Slavery was a hotbed subject even before Lincoln took office. Lincoln didn't start the war, the South did to break away, although it involved more than slavery. So don't try and blame Lincoln for that.

 

Gotta agree with you on this one. Though I could add a couple more.

 

Obama inherited a Great Recession and the economy turned around, got us out of one mistaken war and is getting us out of a botched war, killed the guy who attacked us on 9/11. First president to actually cut spending, twice, in 6 decades; reduced the deficit by the greatest amount ever in 2007, first increase in production of petroleum where the US is a next exporter for the first time in many decades, a 60% increase in the stock markets in his first term when they were tanking, an economy that has created 5.4 million new jobs in the past three years when it was losing 700,000+ when he took office. Etcetera.

If Obama were a white guy and a Republican, conservatives would be worshipping him as a savior and one of the greatest presidents of all time.

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Why are your biased, hyper-partisan political views a legitimate criteria for ranking presidents?