New Atheist Billboard in San Diego Urges 'Personal Relationship With Reality'

Yes, because those are the only teachings that can be found in the Bible and only in the Bible can they be found.

 

I don't have to refute it outright, it is your claim. The burden is on you to prove that what you said manifests itself in reality.

Uh, okay, then obviously a God that ingrained within us morals doesn't exist either.

 

I have addressed those questions, and in a lot of depth.

 

So what?It's no skin off your nose. Ben Franklin was arguably an atheist, yet he saw the value of having people believe. Are we so much dumber, that we can't see those same advantages? Or maybe it's just fun to some to want to try and take other's believe away from them? Try reading this and absorb what Franklin was meaning.


Benjamin Franklin's letter to Thomas Paine regarding "The Age of Reason"

 

If someone needs a book to tell them that these things are wrong, then they do not have any morals to begin with. They never had any, never will.

 

So you agree with Ben Franklin that people are too dumb to have values without relying on a God to tell them what they are? I don't agree with that pessimistic view of humanity.

 

People on here prove to me how dumb they are every day. They show me how much when they put up threads that are just stupid and many put them up just to start arguments. Yes, some people are young and impressionable and do things they know they shouldn't do. It's much worse today because we have millions of kids with no father to guide him and only a mother that works her tail off and hasn't a lot of time to devote to teaching her kid after coming home and fixing dinner, giving the kids a bath and etc.

How many kids would see a bike unattended and steal it when they saw no one around to see them? But a kid that believes in God knows that no matter if no one is around or not to see him, God sees him and most times he won't take that bike.

I don't understand people who would love to try and take people's belief away. That get a kick of suing anyone that tries to bring religion on government property. Even to the point they can't mention God in a commencement speech. Or sue the President to stop him from saying "So help me God" when being sworn in. Who would steal a cross put up to honor our war dead in a desert piece of property that the courts gave them after some atheist sued to have it taken down and lost. Do you see how childish many atheist act? You would expect these kinds of things from a child, but not a grownup.

 

You think it's morally right to want to try and take someone's belief away from them? A belief that only tries to make that person a better citizen? You think that is morally good?

 

If a belief is based on lies, then that belief is not good for the person or society.

 

Except that isn't the only thing the belief does. Case in point: Christianity's view on homosexuality.

 

You don't know it's based on lies. You can't prove or disprove a God. Is teaching someone to be a good citizen, not to steal murder, covet another person's property bad a bad thing? You want to say people already know those things are bad, but if they do, why are so many doing them? Are you not smart enough to understand the benefits of religion as Franklin is? Obviously not and I don't think it takes a very smart person to figure out what he means.

 

You know there are many people that aren't religious that don't believe in homosexuality. So what?

 

Christianity and relgions worldwide hold the same position on homosexuality. And so do many secular organizations. Though christianity seems to preach tolerance but not promotion of it as a "valued social behavior".

 

... That's kind of besides the point. Your argument was that their beliefs ONLY were good. That's just not true.

 

A child does not need fear of eternal damnation to be taught the difference between right and wrong. Especially when eternal damnation is a lie.

Because wrong is wrong. You tell me the earth is flat and I'm going to try to educate you. Likewise, you tell me that mankind is subject to punishment for Eve's "Original Sin" and I'm going to point out that not only is all of humanity not descended from a single couple, but also that homo sapiens has been walking the globe for a hell of a lot longer than 6,000 years, meaning Adam and Eve didn't exist, and there was no "original sin".

 

if they were we would have blasphemy laws, we don't, cause the founders didn't base our laws off of the bible

 

If I have to tell you that trying to put down another person's belief that does nothing but try to make people better citizens, than you lack the morals I think you should have because you know that's wrong. If you can't see that, then you have no morals in the first place and never will.

 

Again, if those beliefs are based off of lies, then those are detrimental to both the person and society. I am sorry you cannot see this.

 

Wow it seems like scientist would like you to believe that everything on this earth evolved around a single strain that fell out of the sky on the back of a comet. People have no trouble believing that, but can't believe that all the people on earth came from a single couple?

We can prove the earth is flat. You can't prove one way or the other about God. That's your belief and your welcome to it. But you have the nerve of trying to take another's belief a way when you can't prove it doesn't exist. That's a mean and rotten thing to do and your parents should have taught you better.

I believe that it was much longer than 6,000 years

 

Well... Most of the Bible's claims about historical events and nature can be proven wrong.

 

It's not really respect for a belief. It's respect for other people.

 

Archaeologists are digging up bible stories!!!

http://www.bible.ca/b-archeolgy.htm

 

Exactly. It's having respect for what people want to believe, as long as that belief doesn't harm you or others. Your parents should have taught them that. Let those without sin cast the first stone.

 

The fact that the Bible sometimes correctly alludes to real cities isn't astonishing. The Illiad named the real city of Troy. However, that isn't what I was talking about. Things I was referring to: global flood, people living for hundreds of years, David, Solomon, Abraham, Moses, the entire story of the Exodus and the conquest of Canaan, etc.

 

So christianity isn’t harming the rights of homosexuals?