10 Years Ago We Went To War For Oil

Well if you get you news sources from dumb ass places, you end up with same kind views.

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I already asked him for links to his claims. He hasn't been back since.

 

One can't argue Iraq is a centerpiece of land. It has been since the beginning of civilizations in that area. But as a US citizen. I am against being an aggressor nation to impose our will on the local people. We should not act like Atilla the Hun.

 

The mouth breathers usually run away at that point. They just go hide out for a while and then spew the same silly nonsense somewhere else.

 

That was going to be my question.I could have sworn the post said,"Cheney's Halliburton,etc." Not a word about the Gubberment!

 

I agree. A lot of our future problems are the direct result of previous incursions into the other nations' business. Whether it's "to help the plight of the downtrodden", or to "further US interests", or whatever the reason, eventually we end up having to defend ourselves against all the animosity we produce as a result. I'm not an isolationist either. I just don't see too much venom or too many missiles aimed against countries like Switzerland who aren't based all over the world trying to make everyone else act the way they think they should act. And they don't have to spend almost 5% of their total economy on Defense, either.

 

I really don't know why people can't accept that countries usually go to war for a variety of reasons. The Iraq War was for a bunch of reasons. I once listed 12 off the top of my head, but since lost the list. Of course oil was one of the reasons and a part of the discussion. Clearly, we didn't need to control it or we wouldn't have given the country back. We just couldn't let an evil dictator control it all. We are now a world built on oil. Sudden spike of $25+/gal or no oil at all would have detrioriated our country worse than we'd ever known. And cost lives.

That mixed with the threat of WMD, evil dictator, mass murderer is why. The timing, though, had everything to do with 9/11. Osama didn't want troops in Saudi Arabia, and our troops were there since Saddam invaded Kuwait. Even moderate Muslims were angry about it, and Osama recruited terrorists on it. We needed to remove them, and it would be easier to do so with Saddam gone.

Saddam needed to go.

 

Here is an overview of what I'm talking about...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_withdrawal_from_Saudi_Arabia

 

THEN I'm SURE all those who believe this will be 110% onboard for us going after the OIL we have right here in our own country....which is MORE than all those countries combined in the Middle East. Join the Republicans who want freedom from oil dependency and support the oil pipelines, oil exploration, and let's get going on our OWN resources. STOP the dependency. Not only would it free us and the world from Middle East dependency, it will be an economic boom like none we've EVER experienced.
Obama can do this right now!!

 

Good question....but it's one I'm quite sure those who believe the OP will have no good answer for.

 

Read the thread. It has been answered.
Hint, It wasn't for the US gubbment. Read the link in the OP.

 

Outstanding point!

The trouble is, it is when you stand up for American ideals that you get labelled Anti-American, while those who support reckless foreign policy and using the Constitution for toilet roll consider themselves patriots.

Support our troops!

Exactly. Support our troops by not needlessly putting them in harm's way.

 

IF Oil man GWB and Daddy couldn't do it, what makes one think obama can do it?
And if you'd bother to read the OP and follow ups, it has nothing to do with more dependancy, it has to do with large Western Oil Cos increasing reserves, profits, and production.

But I'm sure you already knew all that.

 

you just don't get it do ya pal. the oil doesn't have to come to the usa for the American oil companies to make fabulous profits PRODUCING it!! the war wasn't fought for American citizens, it was fought for bush and cheney's pals in the OIL BUSINESS!!

 

Neither the republicans or the democrats want freedom from oil dependency. They are actively working towards the oppositte, to keep us hooked on oil for as long as possible. Because once we aren't dependent on oil, these oil companies go out of business.

That's why they resist adopting perfectly viable green energy alternatives.

We don't "need" oil, rather the oil companies "need" to sell oil.

 

BINGO!!!

 

What lies.

I think American oil companies would like to produce some of the oil in Iraq because delivering energy to needy consumers is what they do.

But the lib fantasy that the Iraq war was fought for oil is really dumb.

 

yeah you keep tellin yourself that!!

 

Yet supported by many a facts.
And not one WMD.

 

It is not supported by any facts.

We and the world need oil from the Middle East so in a general sense oil was a factor.

But the mindless yapping of libs that the issue was all about oil is silly.

 

All this link tells me is the goofs in control at that time thought they'd have Iraq under their control and didn't need SA any more.
Are we still in SA today?

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Sure it is. Just not from Fox entertainment or RW talk radio so you could never see it or believe it.
Even though many links are right in this thread.

 

That isn't accurate. We found WMDs... just not in the quantity and type we were looking for. Riacin was used in some IEDs even.

 

That's not true. There were WMD found in '04 and '06 and news came to surface with the Wikileaks event. They were there, many destroyed. There were labs found with chemical weapons attempting to be made.

 

save your fairy tales for your kids mom

 

Captured documents
Main article: Operation Iraqi Freedom documents
Operation Iraqi Freedom documents refers to some 48,000 boxes of documents, audiotapes and videotapes that were captured by the U.S. military during the 2003 invasion of Iraq. Many of these documents seem to make clear that Saddam's regime had given up on seeking a WMD capability by the mid-1990s. Associated Press reported, "Repeatedly in the transcripts, Saddam and his lieutenants remind each other that Iraq destroyed its chemical and biological weapons in the early 1990s, and shut down those programs and the nuclear-bomb program, which had never produced a weapon." At one 1996 presidential meeting, top weapons program official Amer Mohammed Rashid, describes his conversation with UN weapons inspector Rolf Ekeus: "We don't have anything to hide, so we're giving you all the details." At another meeting Saddam told his deputies, "We cooperated with the resolutions 100 percent and you all know that, and the 5 percent they claim we have not executed could take them 10 years to (verify). Don't think for a minute that we still have WMD. We have nothing."[115] U.S. Congressman Peter Hoekstra called for the U.S. government to put the remaining documents on the Internet so Arabic speakers around the world can help translate the documents.[116]
[edit]Chemical Weapons Recovered
On June 21, 2006 the U.S. House of Representatives Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence released key points from a classified report from the National Ground Intelligence Center on the recovery of a small number of degraded chemical munitions in Iraq. The report stated that "Coalition forces have recovered approximately 500 weapons munitions which contain degraded mustard or sarin nerve agent." However, all are thought to be pre-Gulf War munitions.[117]
These munitions meet the technical definition of weapons of mass destruction, according to the commander of the National Ground Intelligence Center. "These are chemical weapons as defined under the Chemical Weapons Convention, and yes ... they do constitute weapons of mass destruction," Army Col. John Chu told the House Armed Services Committee. The munitions addressed in the report were produced in the 1980s, Maples said. Badly corroded, they could not currently be used as originally intended, though agent remaining in the weapons would be very valuable to terrorists and insurgents, Maples said.[118]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_and_weapons_of_mass_destruction

OK, some 10 yr old WMDs were found.

 

How could we go to war for Oil....win said War...and not own the Oil?

Doesn't the claim kinda knock itself out?

What spoils did we attain from winning this war for Oil?