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Discussion in 'Other Off-Topic Chat' started by logical1, Mar 24, 2013.

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  1. mdrobster

    mdrobster Well-Known Member

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    snopes link isnt working
     
    mdrobster, Mar 24, 2013
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  3. mdrobster

    mdrobster Well-Known Member

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    Looked up your quote myself,
    http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/islam.asp

    The status is "Not quite", and as I read it
    As part of their social studies curriculum,Grade 7 pupils throughout California do study ancient Muslim cultures and the impact of Islam on world history, but only as one of eleven units that comprise that year's social studies course, not as a special indoctrination
     
    mdrobster, Mar 24, 2013
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  4. fiddlerdave

    fiddlerdave Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Except that every example these so-called "Christians" post about this mythical "expungement" is a lie.

    But what is new about that?
     
    fiddlerdave, Mar 24, 2013
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  5. savage-republican

    savage-republican Well-Known Member

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    I forgot where Jesus told the jews to go out and make easter eggs and eat chocolate bunnies! or Christians!
     
    savage-republican, Mar 24, 2013
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  6. Wizard From Oz

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    Please refrain from introducing typical left wing progress socialist concepts like FACTS to this thread
     
    Wizard From Oz, Mar 24, 2013
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    Granted, "Easter" is a Christian thing, but Easter egg hunts, not so much. Many of them are just a fun family/kid thing, not "religious exclusive".

    Personally, I think the whole country is being turned on it's head in large part because of policies being adopted to adapt to some form of PC. PC is a no so subtle freedom killer and it's gotten everyone a little uptight.
     
    way2convey, Mar 24, 2013
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  8. Marine1

    Marine1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Isn't it funny they are not allowed to show what Christianity has had on world history Robert? How about using millions of our dollars to repair mosques in foreign countries? Why is there so much a difference between the two and why do Liberals constanty down Christian religion while sticking up for the Muslim religion?
     
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  9. Marine1

    Marine1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I could possibly be the oldest on this board and I do forget stuff. But I can still debate most on here fairly intelligently. I was a Liberal from Kennedy to Carter.
     
    Marine1, Mar 24, 2013
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    Marine1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Republicans are just the same. Why do you think they have finally given in our citizenship for illegals?
     
    Marine1, Mar 24, 2013
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    actually it's millions to repair religious buildings, including churches and mosques... it's not just mosques

    http://www.factcheck.org/2011/03/funding-mosques-overseas/

    Q: Is President Obama using tax dollars to rebuild mosques around the world?

    A: Yes — and to rebuild historic churches and temples as well. The State Department’s program to preserve overseas cultural landmarks started funding projects under President Bush in 2001.


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    FreshAir, Mar 24, 2013
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    Marine1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I thought our tax dollars weren't to be used for any religion? That's what Libs are always saying.

    We have enough landmarks here falling apart, why are we funding others and not ours?
     
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    It amuses me to read gleeful progressive missives about the ultimate demise of the only political force in America that even remotely endeavors to respect their constitutionally protected, "creator" endowed natural rights and liberty....

    without the obstinate "right-wing", and all its variations on the theme, progressive leftist elites would have long ago enslaved them to the state...

    in the name of "fairness", "equality" and "social justice", of course.
     
    webrockk, Mar 24, 2013
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    Please, this forum alone has plenty of posters saying the worst about Islam. Now while there are people who insult or cast asperions at Christianity, many also attack Catholicism even more, some of it is justified. I know, I'm Catholic, I don't like it, but some of it is true. Some Muslims are radical that too is true. Far too much BS for my liking on the extreme ends.

    But your posts alluding to "indoctrination" only adds to the distrust, you should know better.
     
    mdrobster, Mar 24, 2013
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    And all this protected by the Department of Homeland security. We are indeed blessed
     
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    Who says they don't? Here's the entire curriculum for that particular 7th grade class, which is named "World History and Geography: Medieval and Early Modern Times" -

    http://web.archive.org/web/20020124220246/http://www.cde.ca.gov/standards/history/grade7.html

    And here's some of the content from that link -

    Sounds to me as though they're spending quite a lot of time in that class discussing the influence of Christianity on world history during the period covered by that course. The segment on Islamic history is just one of 11 elements covered over the course of the year. I don't see anyone pitching a fit because they're teaching about the social and religious structures of medieval Japan or China in that course.

    And as for spending money on repairing mosques, that's also a red herring that doesn't stand up to even 5 minutes worth of googling. That program is the Ambassadors' Fund for Cultural Preservation, intended to allow US ambassadors to request aide for the countries in which they are working as a way of building good will with the local populations. It was approved in fiscal year 2001 and the first projects were funded by the Bush Administration. Here's a link to the program's website -

    link to the program's website

    They have annual reports there where you can break down how much money was allocated each year, and where it was spent, but the gist of it seems to be summed up well in this article:


    4 pages in, and I'm still trying to figure out what this thread is even about. It's an interesting discussion, but what's the point of all this and what does it have to do with easter egg hunts no longer being allowed, which has no basis in fact whatsoever?
     
    Dark Star, Mar 24, 2013
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  17. Karma Mechanic

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    Nice try but you see the White House hosts many religious programs and that is different from a local government but perhaps the should be privately funded.
     
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    actually no one is saying that but keep trying to build straw men.
     
    Karma Mechanic, Mar 24, 2013
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    I know what this thread is about. Some Con saw a blurb on TV about an Easter egg hunt being cancelled so of course in the tiny mind of a Conservative that equals to a widespread attack on Easter and Christianity.
     
    pocket aces, Mar 24, 2013
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    The beloved progressive Boy King's expansion of the Patriot Act... TSA, DHS, NDAA, SOPA....his increased, indiscriminate drone assassinations of scary brown people and their unfortunate periphery...his near immediate E.O. to continue extraordinary renditions, his imperious bombing incursion in Libya, and his "Arab Spring" nation building interventionism must leave you progressive [pretend] "civil rights" hawks absolutely breathless in outrage....

    or did the promise of more coerced "from each, to each" Marxism trump all that last election? :)
     
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    Marine1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No one is saying our tax dollars shouldn't be used for anything religious? What kind of isolation have you been living in?
     
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    As long as it is being done with both, showing the effects they have had on world history, I have no problem with it. Not sure how some others would feel.
     
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    no the post I was replying to said that the left is saying "tax dollars are not being used". Try to follow.
     
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    I'm not fully comfortable with that either. I can see the point of helping other countries preserve historical sites that are important to their cultural heritage, and I can accept that in many cases those sites are going to be religious structures, but to me this is kind of getting into a bit of a grey area.

    I'm curious to know just what criteria they use to determine the historical and/or cultural significance of a building aside from its significance as a religious institution. For example, I don't have any problem with using tax dollars to restore a historic 17th Century church in Massachusetts, whereas I would object to using federal funds to build a new church across the street, because the 17th Century church is an important part of our nation's cultural identity. I'd be more comfortable with this program if I knew they were applying similar guidelines to the projects we're funding overseas.
     
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    Has it occurred to you that they were young and stupid and have grown old and stupid.
     
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