Who Owns The Federal Reserve Bank

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  1. holston

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    Here is an article that contains links to other articles that will help put this in perspective:

    http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/19-facts-about-the-deindustrialization-of-america-that-will-blow-your-mind


    Have you not heard that the actual unemployment rate in the US is closer to 20%?

    Do you not believe, as many do, that the government fudges these figures?

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/louiswoodhill/2013/03/10/the-real-story-behind-fridays-unimpressive-unemployment-rate-decline/

    Do you think that Forbes is just another "White Supremacist" or Neo-Nazi web site?


    http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/the-chart-that-proves-that-the-mainstream-media-is-lying-to-you-about-unemployment


    The jobs that were once provided by industries which have been moved out of the US will probably never return.

    http://www.mlive.com/jobs/index.ssf/2011/03/social_welfare_benefits_equal_35_percent.html

    In the meantime unemployment remains high and the strain on Social Security is not getting lighter.

    So how is this trend sustainable?
    More precisely , how long ?

    http://www.usdebtclock.org/


    What planet have you been living on?


    I recommend that some of you should get tin foil hats to shield your brains from the propaganda rays being beamed at you by the mainstream media. If you act now you might save what brains you have remaining.
     
  2. holston

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    http://dprogram.net/2011/11/11/catherine-austin-fitts-black-budget-and-leveraged-buyout-of-world-using-stolen-money/

     
  3. Iriemon

    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What is "The Economic Collapse" website and why is it worthy of credibility?

    How does that show that the "actual" rate is closer to 20%? What is the "actual" rate?

    What is "The Economic Collapse" website and why is it worthy of credibility?

    That article relies on Govt figures. How does that prove the Govt fudges its figures and how in your opinion does it do it?

    http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/the-chart-that-proves-that-the-mainstream-media-is-lying-to-you-about-unemployment


    How do you reconcile that statement with the growth in manufacturing and construction we've seen?

    The Deficit needs to drop to about $800 billion to be sustainable (and preferably below that). If we continue the trend of deficit reduction over the past 2-3 years we should be there in a couple years.

    LOL, versus some internet website you found that you have no idea who writes it or how credible they are?
     
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    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Was someone just saying something about getting tin foil hats to shield your brains from the propaganda rays?

    You believe everything you read on the internet?

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    Was someone just saying something about getting tin foil hats to shield your brains from the propaganda rays?

    You believe everything you read on the internet?

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    Was someone just saying something about getting tin foil hats to shield your brains from the propaganda rays?

    You believe everything you read on the internet?
     
  5. holston

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    No. And I don't believe everything I hear from academia and the mainstream media.
    I don't believe anything a Zionist says.

    A tin foil hat as you describe it would work well against either.

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    Proud of my Tin Foil Hat


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  6. dujac

    dujac Well-Known Member

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    what a joke, are you serious?

    no wonder sane people don't take anything you guys say seriously


    steve forbes is a libertarian wing-nut and let's his political bias influence his judgement



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    Mitt Romney will win big tonight. His popular vote margin will be between 3 – 5%. He will win the Electoral College I believe by a vote of 321 to 217, and with luck, even more. He will win all of the states McCain carried in 2008 which will give him 180 electoral votes. He will also carry the three states that normally go Republican that in 2008 went for Obama – Indiana, North Carolina and Virginia. That brings him to 219. He will also take Florida, which will bring him to 248 votes. Although the Obama campaign will deny it, it effectively wrote off Virginia and Florida several days ago.

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/steveforbes/2012/11/06/steve-forbes-romney-will-win-decisively/
     
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    I've noticed that any source of information I choose which is expresses an opinion other than one of your own is considered unreliable.

    To save time, you could just provide us with a list of sources that we may choose from.

    How about:

    CNN ?

    "The View" ?

    "Bill Mahers" ?

    Here's some I know you'll approve of:

    http://jewishpride.org/
    http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/1781#.UT_mWjf-720

    http://www.thejidf.org/

    http://archive.adl.org/extremism/jdl_chron.asp
    http://www.gatherthejews.com/2011/08/pride-in-the-jewish-people-is-not-a-sin/

    .......................and many many more.

    Is that inclusive enough for you?

    Sorry I couldn't find any exclusively white gentile sources. There is no such thing. All of them are either "White Supremacist" or Neo-Nazi.

    Jewish pride may not be a sin, but white gentile pride definitely is. I'm sure you agree.

    Here's a couple that both you an LEFTY will endorse:

    http://cpusa.org/
    http://www.bnaibrith.org/
    And who can disagree with that?

    (Notice they didn't say "gentile" human rights, unity , continuity etc)


    http://www.imf.org/external/index.htm
    http://www.federalreserve.gov/
    http://www.goldmansachs.com/
    http://secularhumanism.org/
    http://atheists.org/
    http://americananarchy.org/
    http://www.change.org/topics/gayrights
    http://www.feministsforlife.org/taf/index.htm
    http://www.nclr.org/
    http://www.naacp.org/
    http://http://www.aclu.org/
    http://www.splcenter.org/


    I didn't include the Black Panthers because I don't think the Jews control them.......yet. Or maybe it's just not Louis Farrakhan.

    If there are any organizations in there that advocate for white male gentiles or Christians, please excuse me it's quite by accident.


    Just tell everyone which of these news sources have the Kosher seal of approval and we'll be all set.


    In the meantime:

    http://www.arlingtoninstitute.org/wbp/portal/economic-collapse

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  8. dujac

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    it has nothing to do with my opinion

    there are trustworthy methods of testing an information source's reliability

    the sources you've been posting are highly politically biased, to say the least, political bias equal inaccurate
     
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    You can demonstrate the application of your trustworthy methods on the following sources.

    http://www.imf.org/external/index.htm
    http://www.federalreserve.gov/
    http://www.goldmansachs.com/
    http://secularhumanism.org/
    http://atheists.org/
    http://americananarchy.org/
    http://www.change.org/topics/gayrights
    http://www.feministsforlife.org/taf/index.htm
    http://www.nclr.org/
    http://www.naacp.org/
    http://http://www.aclu.org/
    http://www.splcenter.org/

    That way we'll all know whether to trust everything they say to be the gospel truth.
     
  10. Iriemon

    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Then why do you just gullibly accept sources you have no idea about their credibility or veracity?
     
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    you can keep posting bs if you want, but that doesn't change the fact that you presented misinformation which included complete lies

    for example, the truth is that president wilson didn't regret the federal reserve, he was proud of it

    a reliable source references their information with authorities which have a reputation for veracity and experience

    FRIDAY, DEC 21, 2007

    The unhappiness of Woodrow Wilson

    John M. Cooper, a professor of history at the University of Wisconsin, and the author of several books on Woodrow Wilson, writes:

    "I can tell you categorically that this is not a statement of regret for having created the Federal Reserve. Wilson never had any regrets for having done that. It was an accomplishment in which he took great pride."

    http://www.salon.com/technology/how_the_world_works/2007/12/21/woodrow_wilson_federal_reserve
     
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    Well who should know better than John M. Cooper, professor of history at the University of Wisconsin?

    And what proof do you have that he isn't lying? He was there?


    I just love the way that you people attempt to fictionalize anything and everything that might prove to be a bad reflection on Zionism.

    You're in the process of rewriting American History now aren't you.

    Jesus Christ was fiction.

    George Washington was an adulterer.

    etc etc.

    Tell me.

    Is there any goy white man in history that you people have any respect for?

    I'm not talking about the "Reverend John Hagees" or the Senator John McCains. I mean someone, anyone, who wasn't a Shabbos goy of some sort? ( I know you don't have any respect for your putz lap dogs.)


    http://tinfoil-hat-news.blogspot.com/2010/08/woodrow-wilson-pawn-of-zionists.html



     
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    his books are peer-reviewed and he has a reputation for accuracy
     
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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Reserve_System#Balance_between_private_banks_and_responsibility_of_governments

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Reserve_Act


    The Federal Reserve Act of 1913 was what placed the power to print money in the hands of the bankers.
    You can call them what you will. They are not elected. They are private bankers ruling the money supply of the US.

    What crisis?

    Who creates the crisis?

    What is the "cost of funds"?
    How are they doing on that now?

    It sounds to me that they are saying that the central bank "creates money" and "uses it to buy".


    So why can't I create some money of my own, and use it to buy things?




    http://www.federalreserve.gov/boarddocs/speeches/2002/20021108/default.htm


    Bernanke quote:
     
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    http://www.apfn.org/apfn/fed_reserve.htm

    http://www.monetary.org/is-the-federal-reserve-system-a-governmental-or-a-privately-controlled-organization/2008/02

    http://www.save-a-patriot.org/files/view/frcourt.html


    Court Rules Federal Reserve is Privately Owned
    Case Reveals Fed's Status as a Private Institution

    Below are excerpts from a court case proving the Federal Reserve system's status. As you will see, the court ruled that the Federal Reserve Banks are "independent, privately owned and locally controlled corporations", and there is not sufficient "federal government control over 'detailed physical performance' and 'day to day operation'" of the Federal Reserve Bank for it to be considered a federal agency:

    Lewis v. United States, 680 F.2d 1239 (1982)
     
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    what a joke, lewis v usa was about a car accident


    why would a private bank give all its net-profits to the government?
     
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    Beside the point. The courts ruled that the Federal Reserve is a private institution.

    You are a prevaricator.

    What makes you so sure that they do?

    http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/the-looting-of-america-the-federal-reserve-made-16-trillion-in-secret-loans-to-their-bankster-friends-and-the-media-is-ignoring-the-eye-popping-corruption-that-has-been-uncovered

     
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    you don't know what you're talking about

    the 9th circuit court ruled that for the purposes of liability in an auto accident, the federal reserve bank of san francisco was liable for the damages, not the federal government

    this is part of judge solomon's ruling

    "The Reserve Banks have properly been held to be federal instrumentalities for some purposes. In United States v. Hollingshead, 672 F.2d 751 (9th Cir. 1982), this court held that a Federal Reserve Bank employee who was responsible for recommending expenditure of federal funds was a "public official" under the Federal Bribery Statute."

    https://bulk.resource.org/courts.gov/c/F2/680/680.F2d.1239.80-5905.html

    no, i'm telling the truth, you're trying to mislead people



    i've seen the audits and read the federal reserve act


    Federal Reserve turns $77 billion profit

    By Annalyn Censky @CNNMoney March 20, 2012

    NEW YORK (CNNMoney) -- Call it the most profitable bank in the world. The Federal Reserve once again made a hefty profit in 2011, as the central bank went on a bond buying binge to stimulate the economy.

    The Fed earned $77.4 billion last year, according to financial statements released to the public Tuesday. And yes, they were audited (by Deloitte and Touche). While that's a slight tick down from the Fed's 2010 earnings, it's still a massive figure. To put it in perspective, consider this: Last year, the Fed earned more than America's top five largest banks.

    Most of the profit came from interest paid on the securities the Fed acquired in the financial crisis and subsequent recovery.

    Each year after paying its own bills, the central bank hands its remaining earnings to the Treasury. As a result of last year's windfall, the Fed will turn $75.4 billion of its profit over the Treasury.

    http://money.cnn.com/2012/03/20/news/economy/federal_reserve_profit/index.htm

    what a joke
     
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    You have no proof that your sources are any more reliable than mine.

    77 billion is chump change compared to 16 trillion.

    The fines imposed on the financial giants by the SEC (when they get caught) are dwarfed by the proceeds they gain from whatever shady deals they are convicted of in the first place. So the swindles remain profitable and well worth the risk of being exposed.

    One can get indications of this from US news sources. But since they are Zionist Globalist controlled, they can't be trusted to give the whole truth and nothing but the truth. Zionists are notorious liars. This is just as true of those in high places as it is of internet Hasbarats.

    A lot of what anyone makes out of all this depends on who they choose to believe. I have had enough experience with the proponents of Zionist Globalism that I don't trust them for anything except to be devious.

    CNN is associated with the left, as are the Jews. But since the Neo-Cons, who are also led by Jews, control the "right" wing also, you can't trust Fox to give you anything but the appearance of being opposed to the Jewish Democrats. This ruse is carried to the extent that it deceives those who are unaware of who's really calling the shots.

    http://edition.cnn.com/2012/12/20/business/opinion-silva-penalties-banks/

    chump change

    As though the IMF and World Bank have no relation to the US Federal Reserve.


    There's a joke for you.

    .
    Setting the stage.

    And hardly anyone mentions the fact that money laundering is legal in Israel, the money laundering capitol of the world. The "Russian" (Jewish) has major operations there.

    The "Lipstick Building" from which Bernie Madoff operated was owned by an Israeli company who was under investigation for money laundering at the time Madoff was in business. Nothing ever came of it as far as I know. That doesn't surprise me a bit.

    http://babalublog.com/2012/12/21/cuba-castro-dictatorship-decries-u-s-fines-imposed-on-its-banks/

    No fines for the "Russian" gangsters operating between Israel and the US though. No one is "squealing like a stuck pig" there. I wonder why.

    But didn't the financial expert in the previous article just tell us that the US has no power to regulate global banks?
    Of course he did.

    http://blog.transparency.org/2012/12/11/will-billions-in-fines-alone-make-banks-respect-the-rules/
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    You have no proof that your sources are any more reliable than mine.

    77 billion is chump change compared to 16 trillion.

    The fines imposed on the financial giants by the SEC (when they get caught) are dwarfed by the proceeds they gain from whatever shady deals they are convicted of in the first place. So the swindles remain profitable and well worth the risk of being exposed.

    One can get indications of this from US news sources. But since they are Zionist Globalist controlled, they can't be trusted to give the whole truth and nothing but the truth. Zionists are notorious liars. This is just as true of those in high places as it is of internet Hasbarats.

    A lot of what anyone makes out of all this depends on who they choose to believe. I have had enough experience with the proponents of Zionist Globalism that I don't trust them for anything except to be devious.

    CNN is associated with the left, as are the Jews. But since the Neo-Cons, who are also led by Jews, control the "right" wing also, you can't trust Fox to give you anything but the appearance of being opposed to the Jewish Democrats. This ruse is carried to the extent that it deceives those who are unaware of who's really calling the shots.

    http://edition.cnn.com/2012/12/20/business/opinion-silva-penalties-banks/

    chump change

    As though the IMF and World Bank have no relation to the US Federal Reserve.


    There's a joke for you.

    .

    Setting the stage.

    And hardly anyone mentions the fact that money laundering is legal in Israel, the money laundering capitol of the world. The "Russian" (Jewish) has major operations there.

    The "Lipstick Building" from which Bernie Madoff operated was owned by an Israeli company who was under investigation for money laundering at the time Madoff was in business. Nothing ever came of it as far as I know. That doesn't surprise me a bit.

    http://babalublog.com/2012/12/21/cuba-castro-dictatorship-decries-u-s-fines-imposed-on-its-banks/

    No fines for the "Russian" gangsters operating between Israel and the US though. No one is "squealing like a stuck pig" there. I wonder why.

    But didn't the financial expert in the previous article just tell us that the US has no power to regulate global banks?
    Of course he did.

    http://blog.transparency.org/2012/12/11/will-billions-in-fines-alone-make-banks-respect-the-rules/
     
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    what a joke, the federal reserve is more profitable and valuable than ever

    but, the nut cases that say the fed is evil are getting exposed as liars and swindlers

    [video=youtube;EZKCzbfO8-0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZKCzbfO8-0[/video]
     
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    What does that man's comments have to do with who owns the Federal Reserve?

    Are you implying that he speaks for me or anyone else?

    He doesn't.

    The Federal Reserve is a privately owned bank cartel.
     
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    Controlled by the "zionists" to enrich "Yomamma", right?

    It must be so, because it in the internet.
     
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    although he didn't mention it in this video, he thinks the fed is privately owned

    he doesn't speak for you, but he's on your side and vice versa

    he wants to end the fed because he thinks it's evil or at least that's what he says

    he has a pretty big following on youtube, he got in early

    why would a privately owned bank cartel give all its net-profits to the government?
     
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    I told you twice already.

    The "Federal" Reserve is not what it was intended to appear to be.

    The very name "Federal" Reserve is an attempt at appearances.

    The Federal Reserve has not succeeded in accomplishing it's stated objectives.

    That isn't to say that it hasn't accomplished it's objectives. That was to empower the Jewish owned banking cartels and their partners in crime.

    It just hasn't accomplished it's stated objectives.


    You tell me something.

    Who established the "Federal Reserve"?

    Let me state this another way.

    WHO was responsible for devising it and then having the damned thing pushed through Congress.

    The whole thing was plotted in secret and then peddled and pushed under false pretenses. Why so secretive then, and why so secretive now?


    What is the Federal Reserve actually good for?

    It causes inflation and enriched the fat cats who run it.

    Since they belong to the league of Zionists, the only thing it's existence accomplished is enabling the ZOG system to work toward the desired goal of establishing a world wide "Messianic" government.

    Screw that. And screw every one who supports it and wants to go along with it.
     

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