http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4396107,00.html Hamas is stil in control there even if it is Salafis, if the shootings dont stop Israel will have every right to retaliate.
People should not shoot these rockets because it is wrong. Violent actions just lead to more violence.
They need to put some zombie powder in those rockets. There's a good scene in the new movie World War Z where the zombies overrun Jerusalem.
How many rockets would it take to make a story, 20? 50? To me, the story was in that some of the rockets landed in Palestinian territory, quite possibly killing or injuring palestinian children. Poor schlimazels...
Is that a good enough reason for Israel to "forgive and forget", just because they can't do (*)(*)(*)(*)?
I don't know, is it? I didn't mention anything about Israel "forgiving". I just find it funny that Hamas can't hit anything.
Sadly, they can always go back to ol' trusted suicide vests... G*d knows, they' have enough martyrs...
most likely so it is not even yet known where they were fired from or who fired them. Not according to my book as far as right to retaliate against the men, women and children of Gaza for fire which may or may not have come from Gaza and if it did probably was made in contradiction of Hamas. Israel should learn the art of talk. This is just the same as always happens. How come Hamas does not have the 'right' to kill 100's of Israelis every time Israel goes in on a kill incursion and kills someone without trial and usually a few civilians at the same time.
Israel has returned fire http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/0...aza-strip-after-rockets-fired-from-territory/ No one harmed yet. Time to calm down and get on the phone.
I would send Hamas leaders the same cell phone which exploded near Ehhya Ayash's face "The engineer" Tfu !
The UN gives no one the "right" to do that so both Israel and Hamas took that to their own hands, that's why we "talk" in missles, Jihad told Hamas they are cutting themselves off Hamas influence, that was done on the background that Hamas drove itself away from Iran and Syria and leaned heavily on Egypt and Quatar while Jihad remains under Iran-Syria influence, those rockets fired were a threat to Hamas on Israel back, It is estimated that Hamas doesnt want an escalation right now because its trying to regain its str since last op and Egypt wants a clam down, Jihad messege was it can stir things up if they want to, Israel bombed Jihad rocket and weapon silos in reply (which probebly means nothing/open fields) and closed the borders - thats an Israeli messege in return = "get your (*)(*)(*)(*) together, you are in control in gaza so act like it, we hold you responsible over everything that goes in there", and that's damn right. Hamas gets the same treatment it gives Israel, the same non-recognition, same uncompremising approach, same refusal to talk to, like I said before my country is done kissing butt for recognition, the public doesnt care anymore for that.
You dont do the same magic trick twice Hamas are possibly going throu a change, they already stepped away from Iran and connected to Egypt, which is generally good, lets face it if there will ever be a solution it will be Gaza to return to Egypt hands so lets hope that will take a positive turn. - - - Updated - - - I wish, that phone is not connected thou.
Yes, I already noted and posted on the retaliation and the fact that no one has yet been harmed and the hope that this was the end. True both Hamas and Israel are known to commit war crimes. However, when Hamas was elected, it was very willing to talk. It was Israel/US/EU who stuck their fingers up at their democratic vote - something the EU has seen the error of. I know that Israel talks to Hamas and Hamas talks to Israel because an Israel on another forum who has an uncanny way of knowing what is going on says that they find Hamas extremely reliable to communicate with. The rise in the jihhadists in Gaza is due to fact the Hamas has had no ability to change their situation due to the refusal of Israel to talk to them. That has caused people to leave Hamas and get involved in salafi/jihhadist groups - the sort you are claiming may have fired these rockets. Israel imo has been extremely short sighted in not dealing with Hamas. The more people get effected by salafi/jihad mentality the harder it is going to be to get normal life going - if the Palestinians are ever to have that opportunity. You will be quite aware that they fire rockets frequently without Hamas's knowledge or agreement. Now if Abu was correct yesterday when he said Islamic Jihad had given up it's truce, maybe more rockets will come Israels way. Up till now no one has been killed. You have the choice what you do. You can speak to Hamas and try and find a way to sort the situation out or you can go after the women and children of Gaza because that is how it usually goes. It is irrelevant what you think of the International Community, I still hold my position on the basic immorality of not going by the rules of war and killing helpless people.
I disagree they are that helpless and incapable, they proved to be strong willed and very motivated, so they can - if so choose - take control over the strip, as they mostly have right now anyway, Guess what, being a leader calls for some tough and unpopular choices, you cant ne a leader without pissing anyone, how can they have a country if they dont fight those the break the law ??, no, I dont think they cant get Jihad in line I simply think they dont want to, and thats what justifies Israel response in my eyes.
The citizens of Gaza are helpless. That is who I am talking about. The retaliatory killing of ordinary men women and children. As I understand it and from a couple of years ago I think, Hamas is only just managing to stop the Salafis from taking control. Hamas are without question the better possibility to come to some agreement with - hell they would go with a twenty year truce for '67 lines - quite possible within that time to build up cordial relations. By pretending Hamas has more power and authority than it does as you are doing, Israel is creating the very real possibility of Salafi/Jihaddist getting the upper hand in Gaza, but maybe that is what she wants anyway.
You are actually endorsing independent rocket retaliations for atrocities perpetrated by illegal mod edit>>>flame bait
So tell me.... how many times would I be allowed to kick you and your family in the face before you decided to do something about it? Then how many more times would you allow me to kick you and your family in the face AFTER we discussed it and you moved to the other side of the room at my request? Then how many more times would you silently stand by while I kicked you and your family in the face at random moments regardless where you stood or what you did to placate me? The pals ><<mod edit>>>flame bait>>>and their hummus friends don't want peace, nor do they really want the land they claim was taken from them... they are on a religious mission to purify the region of anyone who doesn't kneel in the same dung pile as them. Or this...
I think you got it backwards.... Israel isn't launching rockets.... the paliragheads are. Hummis offers to talk peace AFTER Israel retreats from land they conquered after being attacked. mod edit>>>flame bait
Is demonstrate another word for Prove? If so.... let's see, however, having been a many time visitor to Nappyland, let's make sure we have the rules right.... Projectiles would technically include Bullets from guns such as rifles, pistols, machine guns and such and Shells fired from artillery. Since the thread is about "ROCKETS" fired into Israel, at a time where no ongoing combat operations exist between the combatants, let's compare apples to apples. For your PROOF the be meaningful to THIS discussion, Same for same. Pailragheads fire six rockets without specific provokation; Israel fires six hundred in response, our number is six on the paliraghead side and zero on Israel... retaliation isn't an unprovoked attack. The thinking is, without provokation the retaliation wouldn't exist. Because Israel is capable of massive retaliation shouldn't bias the count. Still up for providing PROOF?
Well, Israel doesn't have any inaccurate , home-made, extremely short-range rockets without warheads. The laugh is on you.