White Slavery in the U.S.

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Whites were also enslaved in the U.S. and other parts of the world.

Poll closed Jul 10, 2013.
  1. True

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  2. False

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  3. How dare you suggest this, you racist scumbag

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  1. E_Pluribus_Venom

    E_Pluribus_Venom Well-Known Member

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    You're right. I'm sure everyone would just say "oh, no biggie then" if that were common knowledge. Not like it was an extremely unfortunate era in our country's history where human beings were treated like working cattle, and in some cases murdered for the audacity of seeking freedom. Poor, poor society. Had they taught it in schools, people would've also read about "benevolent slavery" in which free blacks purchased black slaves to preserve family ties (as in, a free black man finding/purchasing his wife) as a sort of pseudo slavery, since manumission was illegal at the time. Who'd a thunk.
     
  2. danielpalos

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    I believe we should enjoin our chief magistrate, to more faithfully execute our own laws.
     
  3. Steady Pie

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    Indentured servitude is the very definition of liberty. If you want to travel over the Atlantic you have to have some way of paying for it.

    To take away an individual's right to enter voluntarily into servitude is incredibly anti-liberty. You're taking away their choice.

    Too often the left takes away the choice of the people they try to protect.
     
  4. danielpalos

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    I believe following our own laws regarding employment at will is more conducive to "liberty" than indentured servitude, especially in modern Information Age times.
     
  5. Roguelement

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    Friend's... We are all in full agreement that the "elite " were able to acquire vast wealth off the back's of slave's albeit white ,black ,oriental , native American, the question now becomes Why knowing what we have long known are we still slaves to the same master's our ancestor's were slave's to ? When I look around today all I see is pain & struggle & suffering while the same few continue on the path they have always traveled . But now they have manipulated through fraud & covert act's our elected officials to pass bill's in congress that affords them even more layers of protection from ANY chance of culpability . These kinds of people leave very little to chance they not only want to be able to pillage & plunder society but demand they should be able without any fear of Law enforcement scrutiny regulation's or media focus they operate day to day decade after decade without any of the restraints or legal standards we are held to and they do so without ever being the center of any investigation ,senate sub-committee hearings or focus of any kind . These lowly disgraceful people go through life with impunity and have manipulated the very structure of Government to shift the entire Burden of all Government onto the very back's of the people who can least afford it.... AND NOBODY STANDS UP AND SAY'S NO MORE.... The Louis Powell memorandum began the modern day corporate takeover of all we know. It's their blueprint or their perfect business model ..it's how the cato the heritage foundation and all the rest of the so-called "think tank's" got started.. We MUST join together in this common struggle or we will be wearing bar codes on our skull's shortly.. it's already in the works people wake up .. clean out your head gear . open your eye's .take off your rose colored glasses. Look up at what was once clear blue sky's . they are gone....
     
  6. Roguelement

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    Your obviously naive . but give it time and you to will see things as they really are and not how they appear to be.. If the very system we operate in is rigged then it's rigged . GAME OVER..
     
  7. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    Of course whites were enslaved. The Romans enslaved whole populations of conquered peoples, they flooded the market with the inhabitants of Sardinia so badly that the phrase "as cheap as a Sardinian" entered their language.

    Strangely, however, the proportion of slaves to free in the ancient world rarely exceeded 10%, except in the cities. Most people I talk to are startled by this figure but it comes from the Oxford Guide. The proportion was much higher in the cities. Why is this?

    The thing that MUST be remembered is that our modern concept of slavery was, indeed, a "Peculiar Institution". Throughout most of history slavery was not nearly the incredibly brutal thing we know today. Most of the teachers and tutors in Rome were slaves and slaves vied to be given to kindly masters. The entirety of the Ottoman Empire's bureaucracy, including the man whose power was second only to the Sultan himself, were slaves, as were the elite Janissaries, who came to actually rule the Empire.

    The Ancient World is characterized largely by a labor surplus. It was MUCH easier to be a slave in Rome than an average "free" man.

    Another fact to be kept in mind is that slavery is more about sex than labor. It's generally inefficient as a form of labor, unless the labor is of the simplest kind imaginable and/or the slaves are cheap enough so that you can systematically work them to death (the amount you have to feed him vs the amount of work you could get from a slave before he died was a major topic of polite dinner conversation in the sugar plantations of Martinique). It's really very difficult to get an "honest" day's labor out of a slave but Breeding them is fun, and can be very profitable. This is one reason that the value of slaves in the South exceeded that of all other assets in the US put together at the time of the ACW.

    It's also the reason we have more slaves in the modern world than we ever had in the Ancient. Children in bondage to the brothels of India alone may exceed the number of black slaves in existence in 1860.
     
  8. junius. fils

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    "The correct answer is "true." Most of these slaves - at least in the U.S. - were Irish by birth."

    What an amazing statement. I wonder if I can find my abnormal psychology textbook from college.
     
  9. Charles Nicholson

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    No, they don't teach that. Nor do they teach that it was actually the African tribes who first enslaved their own people to sell them to the evil white men.
     
  10. Charles Nicholson

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    I hadn't heard about the lynching statistics, thank you.
     
  11. Charles Nicholson

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    One could argue (especially a liberal one) that white slavery wasn't as bad as black slavery because it was "indentured servitude" when whites were the victims.

    I merely intended to crush that argument before it came to unfortunate fruition.

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    What relevance does your difficulty in maintaining an organized library have to the discussion?
     
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    Nor do they teach blacks had white slaves

    [video=youtube;pPC0l4JiM2o]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPC0l4JiM2o&list=FL-9ZWa3xwj5awjeFzXnJDSQ&index=1[/video]
     
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    You are welcome. I saw them posted on another site. I had never heard much about whites being lynched too so it is a lesson to always be open and willing to challenge your own beliefs about history.

    http://law2.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/shipp/lynchingsstate.html
     
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    Oh totally. They act like white Americans were just these evil plunderers that traveled to Africa and chased down and enslaved these poor peaceful people and brought them back to America to do their bidding. When in reality, slavery was very common all over the place back then. And these Americans simply crossed the ocean to partake in an industry that was already going strong long before Americans ever got involved in it. They purchased their slaves from black African slave traders. But we can't tell the whole story like that. It'll unravel the perfect storm of racial hostility that the Alinksy-ites have worked so hard to craft in this country. To divide people up into all these different groups and pit them against each other in a selfish attempt to divide and conquer.
     
  16. Charles Nicholson

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    Exactly! It's good to see that some people have a lick of sense...

    And "divide and conquer" is the catchphrase of the communistic elite.
    Whites vs Minorities, Men vs Women, Republicans vs Democrats, and a veritable plethora of other contrived conflicts are intended purely to subjugate the masses.

    Excellent signature, by the way - I happen to be one of the few pro-life libertarians, meaning I happen to be one of the few true libertarians.
     
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    Lol! I just noticed I misspelled Alinsky. Sometimes I type too fast. :D
     
  18. Unifier

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    ^This is awesome. I think pro-abortion libertarians are completely illogical and self-defeating. It's like taking a "pro-choice" stance on slavery. I think the only way to truly be a legitimate libertarian is to be pro-life.
     
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    Slavery for all races only exists in the so-called right to work states in the US.
     
  20. Charles Nicholson

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    Exactly! The most important right is the right to live - if you take this right away, you are a hardcore communo-fascist, regardless of whatever other freedoms you choose to respect.
     
  21. Charles Nicholson

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    Explain how an individual working VOLUNTARILY is a slave.

    Explain how an individual who doesn't want to waste his money on psychotic power-hungry union bosses is a slave.

    You mock the true slaves of history by pretending that a voluntary worker is the same as an involuntary one that is legally owned by a "master."
     
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    You live in the right-to-work south so you should know what I'm saying without demanding explanations.
     
  23. Charles Nicholson

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    I'll repost my request until it is satisfied - which it won't be, since your idiotic opinion has no standing.

    "Explain how an individual working VOLUNTARILY is a slave.

    Explain how an individual who doesn't want to waste his money on psychotic power-hungry union bosses is a slave.

    You mock the true slaves of history by pretending that a voluntary worker is the same as an involuntary one that is legally owned by a "master.""
     
  24. danielpalos

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    Why is there any homelessness at all, in Right to Work States?
     
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    He's trolling you.
     

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