Sheriff Joe Arpaio Has Found The Forger Of Barack Obama's Birth Certificate

I wonder how all you birthers will rationalize your support for Cruz if he runs for potus.

 

I demand to see that poppinjay's FATHER'S citizenship papers.

 

I think that the guy is from Transylvania.
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Huh? I thought Obama was born in Hawaii. What on Earth you droning on about?

 

notice how i didn't say it was a statement of fact

i said it was a fantasy, which it is

you must be projecting, because i find it amusing how deluded you birthers are

 

We've got plenty "End of America" types on the Right as well. How many times have we heard about "hyperinflation" since 2009? How many times have you heard "Obama re-elected....this country cannot survive"?

How much gold from "Goldline" and "Food Insurance" has Glenn Beck sold to the paranoid Righties over the years, "hinting" that the Apocalypse was "just around the corner"?

But on its own, Birtherism is about one thing....racism. A bunch of white guys who cannot accept that a black man was "legitimately" elected President of "their" country....so they need some fantasy to keep convincing themselves otherwise.

And since it IS based on racism....like I said...it won't end on January 20th, 2017 when Obama leaves office. For even "once upon a time a black guy was a 2 term President of my country" is anathema to these loser bigots' world-view....so Birtherism will be around for decades, like Flat Earthers or Moon Landing Hoaxers.

 

Hypocrisy will rule the day if Ted Cruz tries to run for President. Cruz ADMITS to being born in Canada. A goodly number (but not all...again, Birthers are racists. They won't like Cruz for being Latino much more than they like Obama for being black).....will find some "excuse" for Ted.

 

Nope, the only enforcing he's doing is his obsession with publicity.

 

Has anyone from this 'Cold Case Posse' handled the document or subjected it to forensic analysis? Oh, they cannot, since it only exists as a copy. Anyway I have no doubt the State of Hawaii would tell Arpaio and his joke 'posse' to 'f*ck off' in no uncertain terms.

 

For my part, I'll wait for the big "press conference" (?) at the Maricopa County Sheriff's Office on July 17th. We'll see exactly what is revealed after this big 21 month investigation.

IMHO, the reason that these questions about Obama's origins keep coming up, over and over, with new ones popping out ever so often is because the numerous questions about Obama are never fully answered. Again and again you who support Obama say, "Well, he doesn't HAVE to answer questions about...(fill in the blanks)". The "blanks" include everything from the allegation that two different Hawaiian hospitals were his actual birthplace, to his Social Security number (tied to Connecticut), his fraudulent Selective Service registration, his completely sealed-shut school records (in which he claimed he was NOT a citizen of the United States?), and of course, the current cause celebre, the issue of whether Birth Certificate #2 was a photoshopped construction instead of a simple, face-on direct copy of a real birth certificate entry.

The suppression of all who doubt the whole, strange, bizarre Obama "story" extends to the courts, which will NOT, under any circumstances, allow a full, free presentation of the cases and evidence against him. Those who bring the cases are always thrown out on any one of many legal technicalities, or simply because, in the court's opinion, the person bringing the case "lacks STANDING". The message, then, is "Well, the courts don't HAVE to allow the cases or the evidence to be presented!" What a lousy pantload of crap that is, and you wonder why the "birthers" won't just go away quietly...? This is how "justice" was handled in the Third Reich and the old Soviet Union... "We don't think about things we don't think about...."

So, onward to July 17th, and perhaps we share a view that nothing really will be revealed. And whether you believe it or not, that will be good for Obama's Praetorian Guard.

 

Any court in the land may dismiss a case if it considers it to be 'frivolous'. How many times do they have to do it before losing patience with these birther idiots? So far the courts have had to listen to idiots trying to make a case against Obama at least 200 times.

 

Birthers have had their day in court. They were allowed to present their "evidence". All of it. They lost to an empty chair. That's right, no defense of any kind was mounted against the birthers who filed suit, and they still lost.

That is because no evidence has ever been presented that Obama was born anywhere other than Hawaii.

Your accusation that he claimed anything other than US citizenship on his applications is not supported In reality. No valid explanation has ever been given as to why he would do such a thing

 

And I will remind you that I am willing to take bets or pretty much any sum that this will amount to a big fat load of nothing.

No, it's because the actual answers offered are constantly shoved aside. When Obama was first questioned on his citizenship, he provided his short form birth certificate. For most people, this was enough. So later on, he provided his long form birth certificate, as well as other evidence of his birth, and what was the response? "It's a fake!" Look, here we go again!

Yeah, see, this new thing? Same as the old thing. They have to assert that it's fake, because it's all they have left, because these are people who have staked their names, reputations, and careers on Obama not being a citizen.

Well yes, the president doesn't have to answer every single insane allegation posed to him by nutbags with a clear ulterior motive. He's done a bang-up job of doing so anyways, providing long form birth certificate, a newspaper article from the date of his birth detailing that it happened where he claimed it did.As for the SSN, even Snopes covered that myth. School records? He wouldn't be the first candidate or president to refuse to release them - in fact, Bush did the exact same thing, and there was relatively little (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)ing about that. They also aren't sealed. Sealed refers to documents that would otherwise be public knowledge being made confidential by congress or the courts, but colleges cannot legally release such documents of anybody without that person's consent. The selective service made his draft card public as well. The answers to all of these myths are out there, and for the most part, they're shockingly simple. And half of this (*)(*)(*)(*) are things that he really didn't have to answer. No other president has ever been subject to this level of personal scrutiny before taking office.

I will bet you any amount of money that no court will determine that Obama's long form birth certificate is fraudulent. Because it isn't. Because we've been grasping at these straws for 5 (*)(*)(*)(*)ing years now. It's enough. There's nothing there. Arpaio should rightfully be thrown out of office for this blatant disregard for his position.

...Obviously, it has nothing to do with the fact that most of the evidence is easily debunked by a quick trip to Snopes. I say we let them present their evidence, and then when it's presented and it's all said and done, and it turns out to be the load of crap that it is, we fine the (*)(*)(*)(*) out of Taitz and co. for wasting everyone's time. Look, there is no case. There is no argument to be made. You brought up a whole bunch of crap that has already been debunked - wild claims of "THIS IS FRAUDULENT BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE PROOF OF IT NOT BEING" which went up in smoke the second the correct authority brought it up. Seriously, check out this list - does it sound more like "LALALALA WE'RE NOT LISTENING" or "Dear god, this (*)(*)(*)(*) again? You have no case, (*)(*)(*)(*) off you annoying (*)(*)(*)(*)wicket"?

...Need I go on?

 

LOL You can't even keep your lies straight. You said "he wasn't, get over it"

And saying "had he been" is an acknowledgement the statement isn't true yet you moronically try and pretend he meant it as a geniune hypothesis because you didn't understand the phrase at all.

Never once have I ever said Obama was born somewhere else. Enjoy your continued fail.

 

how much more ridiculous can you be?

it's a fact, obama was born in 1961 in the state of hawaii, so that's no lie

now that your bs has been refuted, show me something else which i wrote, that you think is a lie

you obviously had no clue what i meant

but your lies are amusing, so keep on twisting

you're pushing people away from your deceitful party

oh look, another twist, what a surprise

you wrote:

when i said you're projecting, that means you're projecting your own desperation

not the distorted interpretations you seem to be alleging

 

Birthers have made fools of themselves in every court case- even when they were allowed to present all of their 'evidence'.

Birthers need no permission from me or anyone else to make fools of themselves. They have filed over 200 lawsuits, lost every decision, and continue to make fools of themselves.

I look forward to Arpaio or Zullo or any of that ilk showing us whatever it is they are so coyly pretending that they have. So far the history of Birthers is that they promise and promise and never deliver.

I fully expect that this will be the case this time too.

 

I don't know. Evidently it will go on no matter what either of us thinks until the thing is finally settled in the mind of all but a tiny fraction of a minority of people. There are still way too many people who don't believe the Obama "story", especially those parts I enumerated.

Consider:

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20056061-503544.html
http://www.wnd.com/2012/03/half-of-america-agrees-with-sheriff-joe/
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/was...-think-obama-was-born-in-another-country.html

You can't just WISH AWAY that many people and call ALL of them "nutbags", etc. But, I do agree with you... if past performance is anything to judge by, on July 17th, the big "news conference" will not reveal anything that will represent a real threat to Obama's "story". If it's a full, open, unobstructed, unhampered proceeding without a big hyperlib smear campaign, it will be revealing -- of either Obama's having committed a gigantic lie and a fraud on the American people, or, of his detractors having made complete fools of themselves. I will be content to wait for the 17th to make up my mind, but I understand why you of Obama's Praetorian Guard will not....

 

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Wow, you can tell all that all the way from England? I live many thousands of miles closer, and still could not make such a judgment. What information do you have to make this conclusion?

 

I think he knows he screwed up. For some reason, rather than simply admit it and move on, he prefers to make more fraudulent personal attacks built around the original fraudulent personal attacks. It's very sad. But hey, this is PF and it's a free country.

 

True enough. Its rare you see someone twist the words so much and think no one will notice.

 

I must agree with that. The words were extremely clear. And the attempts to repeatedly pretend they meant something else? Pathetic, and laughably so. I cannot imagine being so touchy that I would be unable to admit I am wrong on an anonymous internet bulletin board.

It's kinda scary when you think about it.

 

I'll say this for true Birthers....they're much more honest and courageous than the "Birther-Lites", who say "Okay, yeah, Obama PROBABLY was born in Hawaii in 1961" or "He's LIKELY a citizen, but he leaves a lot of unanswered questions".

Those weak apologists who don't want to make their Birther friends mad at them.....but also don't want to be "lumped in with the crazies". Reminds me of the famous Teddy Roosevelt quote-

"Far better is it to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure... than to rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy nor suffer much, because they live in a gray twilight that knows not victory nor defeat."--T. Roosevelt


A real Birther may be a nut.....but he's not the coward of the "Birther-Lite".

 

You're right, this won't go away. Not until Obama is out of office. It won't make any considerable impact (other than telling me which people to generally avoid spending more time than absolutely necessary with), and regardless of what evidence turns up, those who weren't convinced won't become convinced. Partially because "Obama birth certificate still legitimate" makes for lousy news; partially because what it would take to get something like that in the news would be a high court case, which will never happen because it'd be a colossal waste of everyone's time; partially because given the nature of the debate, and how little one side actually seems to give a damn about evidence, they have graduated into the camp of "true believers" who are by definition impossible to convert; and partially because many of those involved in propagating the myth have motivations beyond "find the truth" or even "save america".

Think about that last point. Given how many people are "true believers" on this issue, who will never be swayed, regardless of the evidence, what do you think would happen to Orly Taitz if she admitted that she had been wrong? Well, almost everyone who knows about her and isn't a birther has emotions ranging from shame to anger. If she stabbed the aforementioned true believers in the back, she'd have literally nowhere to go - nobody would like her, nobody would hire her. Her career would be over. Or what about Joe Arpaio? He'd have to admit that he spent the last 21 months essentially abusing his position as sheriff to go off on a stupid, pointless political vendetta. His career would probably be over, and he'd probably end up with some legal troubles as well. Terry Lakin? Would be forced to recognize that he basically threw away his career and went to jail over him basically being a colossal idiot. You starting to see what I mean?

Well, actually, I can, and I do - not just them, but another, larger group: these guys. It's just a matter of recognizing that their viewpoint is vapid and meritless, then making sure that they never have a serious part in the discussion again by reminding everyone else that fact.

As said - taking all bets. I'm willing to say right now that it is going to be a big fat nothing-burger, and I'm willing (unlike god knows how many other people here back in the 2012 election) to put my money where my mouth is. I'd gamble my college fund on this going nowhere - that's how convinced I am.

 

you have no clue what you're talking about

what a joke