Nazi murderers of Jews still walking around USA

I think you leapt to a conclusion. When I say I don't mean it was their express intent, that is to say I don't mean it was their initial policy toward Jewish people. They were used for labor first, not just summarily killed.

 

They didn't have furnaces, they had normal crematoria. Auschwitz was a huge industrial complex of about twentyfive thousand people, as well as people on transit comeing and going and including a huge hospital and it was growing. Germany had no natural sources of either rubber or gasoline, some say that is why they lost WWI, so they were the fore runners in the making of synthetic rubber and gasoline, part of Auschwitz was for that and part was making machinery, for War. In the summer of '42 there had been a terrible outbreak of typhus cremation was the best way of disposing of the bodies and why there were so many crematoria, though not so many when you think of the circumstance. The hospital, a growing camp, people in transit, migrant workers in compounds outside the camp and the inhabitants of Auschwitz and typhoid..

The name Death Camp is explained in Rassiniers book, people were worked to death in some of the Camps, if they didn't gat red cross parcels or parcels from home, men were living on starvation rations and working underground in heat they just keeled over and died, so they were named Death Camps.

We all go on our own journeys in search of the truth, as and when

 

Actually, most Jewish people were on their ways to resettlement, temporarily in the East. Some were resettled but the War got in the way. Jews were thought of as enemies of the State because Jewish business men and bankers had 'declared War on Germany', so when War broke they were seperated from society at large .............In Belsen, their compound was almost untouched by typhoid btw, were kept those from the Diamond trade for eg.In Berlin one ghetto was left as was, not all were imprisoned.

 

We have been over this before, they show half truths out of which lies are fabricated. Transit lists are not death lists...............out of which we may make assumtions ? No we may not that is not how History is properly noted, that is victors propaganda !

And there is nothing on that site anyway, it is a con ........................ zilch


The Germans wrote death certs giving every detail of the person, sex, name, age, profession, place of abode and what they died of, not just lists of names.

 

Then what happened to the people who were transited? Your lies are disproven by the fact that the transcripts of the Wannsee Conference which were confirmed by Eichmann as authentic coupled with the Poznan speeches by Himmler which confirm that "Final Solution" was a euphemism for extermination not deportation.

Challenge to Supporters of the Revisionist Transit Camp Theory
By Roberto Muehlenkamp

According to Revisionist scripture, the places known by history to have been extermination camps were mere transit camps, places where arriving deportees were bathed, had themselves and/or their clothing deloused, were perhaps given a hot meal or drink and then sent onwards to final destinations in the Nazi-occupied territories of the USSR, where they were resettled in camps or ghettos. The numbers that Revisionists claim to have been transited through these camps is enormous. The Korherr Report alone, which Revisionists claim must be understood literally in this respect, mentions 1,274,166 Jews transited to the "Russian East" through "the camps in the General Government" (mainly Bełżec, Sobibór and Treblinka, as we know now from the Höfle telegram) and 145,301 Jews transited to the "Russian East" through "the camps in the Warthegau" (obviously Chełmno/Kulmhof), until the end of 1942. So a total of 1,419,467 persons are supposed to have been transited to the "Russian East" in this period through these camps alone, instead of being gassed at these camps as all known evidence shows them to have been. Some of them would have succumbed to hardship on the journey or at the place of destination, but most would have survived the war and returned to their places of origin or emigrated after the war. Their names would have been carefully recorded (also in order to control them), and there would have been no reason for the Nazis to destroy these records or any other part of the huge paper trail that this gigantic resettlement operation would have created (on the contrary, all this documentation would have been their best safeguard against accusations that they had murdered these people). The deportees would have been seen along the route and at the place of final destination by a great many people, including but not limited to those in charge of transporting and accommodating them and the local population. From such witnesses, but especially from the surviving deportees themselves, there should be thousands upon thousands of accounts narrating their experiences. Having been subject to persecution by the Nazi government, the many surviving deportees, or at least a substantial part of them, would have filed compensation claims with the German Federal Republic after the war. There would be records about their return home or their emigration, and there would be records about their later whereabouts. From all these accounts and documentation, names of deportees transited through Chełmno, Bełżec, Sobibór and Treblinka to the "Russian East" should be all over the place, and it should be a piece of cake to find such names and proof that their bearers were transited through these places.

My challenge is the following:

I, Roberto Muehlenkamp, have at this moment a certain sum on a savings account, the existence of which I can prove and of which I am prepared to pay up to $ 4,000, $ 1,000 for each name, to the first Revisionist(s) who can provide, along with corresponding conclusive evidence, the names of up to 4 Jews who were transited through Chełmno, Bełżec, Sobibór or Treblinka (not necessarily one per camp, can be all four through one camp, two here and two there or any other combination) to the Nazi-occupied territories of the Soviet Union, i.e. the areas of what was then known as the Reichskommissariat Ostland, the Reichskommissariat Ukraine or the Soviet territories under German military administration, in the years 1942 or 1943. By transited I mean that the person in question must have undergone the procedure that Jews are supposed to have undergone according to Revisionist claims: taken to the respective camp, bathed and deloused and perhaps (but not necessarily) given a hot meal or drink there, then shipped to a certain destination in the Nazi-occupied territories of the Soviet Union as defined above, e.g. to Minsk, Riga, Kovno or Kiev.

http://holocaustcontroversies.blogspot.se/2011/07/challenge-to-supporters-of-revisionist.html

 

Proven fakes.

 

what about the Jews who had nothing to do with banking and business?

why were THEY "resettled"??

why were 3 million Polish Jews who had nothing to do with banking and business, "resettled"?

 

Bull(*)(*)(*)(*), Operation Reinhard was in full effect as early as 1941, the order was extermination not deportation of all Jewry (including women and children) as per the Operational Reports of the Einsatzgruppen.

Aren't you sick of getting your ass pwned on this bull(*)(*)(*)(*) claim?

A) An economic boycott is not a declaration of war.

B) The NSDAP's 25 point plan was established in 1921 and called for the following:


4. Only a member of the race can be a citizen. A member of the race can only be one who is of German blood, without consideration of creed. Consequently no Jew can be a member of the race.

5. Whoever has no citizenship is to be able to live in Germany only as a guest, and must be under the authority of legislation for foreigners.

6. The right to determine matters concerning administration and law belongs only to the citizen. Therefore we demand that every public office, of any sort whatsoever, whether in the Reich, the county or municipality, be filled only by citizens. We combat the corrupting parliamentary economy, office-holding only according to party inclinations without consideration of character or abilities.

http://avalon.law.yale.edu/imt/1708-ps.asp

C) The economic boycott called for in the US was a response to the overt persecution of Jews by the Nazi regime and was mitigated by the Haavara Agreement established by Jews in order to free up Jewish assets seized by the Germans in order that they might obtain the necessary $1000 in capital required for entrance into the British Mandate of Palestine.

http://books.google.com/books?id=DGJy5Ptzqp0C&pg=PA77#v=onepage&q&f=false
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Holocaust/Black.html

Again this is an overt lie, the Aryan Paragraph contained in the Law for the Restoration of the Professional Civil Service which effectively eliminated any Jewish presence in public life in Germany was passed in 1933 6 years before the war started.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_Service_Law

Another flagrant distortion of historical truth, Bergen-Belsen was A) not an extermination camp, and B) only wealthy Jews to be used for hostages in exchange for German civilians or ransom were held there.

In April 1943, the SS took over the southern section of the Bergen-Belsen POW camp from the Wehrmacht and turned it into a "detention camp” (Aufenthaltslager). It was intended to hold various groups of Jews whom the SS and the Foreign Office planned to exchange for Germans interned abroad or for foreign currency or commodities. These hostages were initially exempt from deportation to an extermination camp. The prisoners who were considered suitable for exchange were mostly Jews who either had official emigration papers from the British authorities in Palestine, were citizens of an Allied country or who held high-ranking positions in Jewish organisations.

At first, the living conditions for these exchange prisoners were much better than those at other concentration camps. The prisoners were allowed to bring personal belongings with them and wear civilian clothes, and they were able to develop a secret cultural and religious life in the camp. Numerous poems and drawings as well as 27 diaries from the exchange camp have survived.

Prisoners were usually taken to the exchange camp with their entire families even if only one family member qualified for exchange. Between July 1943 and December 1944, at least 14,600 Jewish prisoners, including 2,750 children and adolescents, were transported to the Bergen-Belsen exchange camp. The SS had set up separate areas of the camp for different groups of prisoners: There was the so-called "star camp" which held a large number of Dutch Jews, the “Hungarian camp”, the “special camp” for Polish Jews and the “neutrals camp” for prisoners from neutral countries.

A total of only around 2,560 Jewish prisoners were ever actually transported from Bergen-Belsen and released.

http://bergen-belsen.stiftung-ng.de/en/history/concentration-camp/exchange-camp.html

You can not slip anything past us, your lies and distortions are too easily apparent for anyone with even a remote education in WW2 history.

 

Yes it does matter , however , its obvious that you're now simply attempting to pathetically trying not to answere my direct question .


AS you've chosen to speak for Jonsa , my question is , what sort of Jews are the two of you ?

PLs go back on your post where you said :

and I asked :

Do you think you can give me a straight + honest reply ?

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The only proven fake here is you, they are proven authentic, Eichmann who recorded the minutes of the conference validated the Wannssee Transcrips himself:

http://www.ghwk.de/ghwk/engl/texts/eichmanns-testimony.pdf

And audio analysis of the recordings of the Posen Speeches have proven they were made by Himmler:

other speeches by Himmler were independently recorded in the same written and aural manner. The voice therein is clearly attributable to Himmler, and confirms the detail of the first speech. In addition, the discovery of the second Posen speech in the Koblenz Bundesarchiv rendered allegations of falsification completely irrelevant. Himmler's explicit statements, such as making the decision to make the Jews "disappear from the earth", leave no room for alternative interpretation.[40]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posen_speeches#cite_note-40

Your disinformation will not be allowed to slide wherever the Neo-Nazi's seek to spread the darkness of their lies we will be there to counter them with the light of truth.

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lmfao, I'm a lapsed Catholic Irish/Italian Atheist Jew.

 

lol The highest number of registered inmates at Auschwitz ever was in 1944 at 92,000, if the vast majority of Jews who entered the camps were not selected for immediate extermination why did they need a cremation capacity of more than 80,000 per month with Gusen style ovens with 52 muffles in the Krematoria at Auschwitz each with a 2 - 3 body capacity (let's say 2) with a burn rate for each muffle of appx. 45 minutes (let's say an hour) allowing for 4 hours of down time per day bringing us to a burn rate of 2080 bodies incinerated per day (52 muffles x 2 bodies x 20 hours) and a per month burn rate of 62,400?

Once again the highest level of registered prisoners ever at Auschwitz was 92,000 in 1944, so are you people honestly going to assert that a cremation capacity capable of burning 2/3's of the camps registered population in a month was necessary if they were not killing unregistered inmates immediately upon entrance into the camps? That simply does not hold water, "normal crematoria" indeed.

 

"Then the Jews will be hanged indiscriminately, and they will remain hanging until they stink; they will hang there as long as the principles of hygiene permit. As soon as they have been untied, the next batch will be strung up, and so on down the line, until the last Jew in Munich has been exterminated. Other cities will follow suit, precisely in this fashion, until all Germany has been completely cleansed of Jews." (1) -- Adolf Hitler 1922

1. Josef Hell, "Aufzeichnung," 1922, ZS 640, p. 5, Institute fuer Zeitgeschichte. The retired Major Josef Hell was a journalist in the twenties and in the beginning of the thirties, during which time he also collaborated with Dr. Fritz Gerlich, the editor of the weekly newspaper Der Gerade Weg, as cited in Fleming, Gerald. Hitler and the Final Solution. Berkeley: University of California Press, 1984. p. 17
http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/h/hitler-adolf/hitler-1922.html

Only appx. 1/3 of the Jews were selected to be worked and starved to death through slave labour, the remaining 2/3's were selected for immediate extermination (including children and the elderly deemed not fit to work).

 

Nah, I'm not answering because a) it really is irrelevant, b) I could say I'm a worshipper of Marduk and neither you nor I would have any way to prove it, and c) it's annoying you.

Moon said it's time to discuss something other than Jews. You agreed. I'm calling you both out on it. Let's see which team can go the longest without discussing Jews, Israel, or Zionism. Or if Jonsa isn't willing to be part of the bet - since he hasn't responded on this thread - and Moon has (wisely) not responded to the challenge - than it''ll just be a bet between us: The loser pays - oh, twenty bucks to PF as a donor towards the other posters account. You know the new rules: Put Up - or Shut Up. Which is it going to be?

Come on, Marlowe - you gonna let an AMERICAN get the best of you?

 

I am trying to establish facts, that is all.

 

http://codoh.com/library/document/934

 

I take it that , having once admitted being a Jew + also spoken for Jonsa as a fellow Jew , you've now true to form chickening out / trying to wiggle out of your previous statements . + now suddenly refusing to say what sort of Jews the two of you are .

Well done - Just as one would expect from a Jew .

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'get the better of you' .........................

 

Maybe we can just knock their walkers down. That would do it!

 

LOL not at all. Not even gonna ask for the post where I said I was a Jew under the Put Up - Shut Up rule. But I DO see you're not willing to back up your own statements.

I'll take that as a win. America - 1, UK - 0.

Ciao.

 

Quotes use two apostrophes such as ", not a ', you use apostrophes as quotes when using a quote IN a quote. And an ellipsis uses only three periods.

You REALLY want to play Grammar Nazi?

 

Ummmm excuse me, where did Hitler say this and in what context? Proof please.

 

No I wasn't , really I wasn't. It just sounds funny to say '....the best of you' when it is '...... the better of you/ .............carry on I don't care, it was rather sweet actually.

 

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Yes - IT IS VERY RELEVANT - What I do find annoying , is that you're cowardly chickening out - + now shameleslesly being evasive (OTOH - perhaps I should have expected it from a Jew)

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here it is :

Your response :

My question :

If you + Jonsa are not Jews , then why did you respond as you did in your post #188 which I've repost above ?

Or have you now suddenly become ashamed /refusing to admit being a Jew ?

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I've been a teacher for what feels like forever, but I don't grade anyone's posts here, even my own. Part of the fun of posting here is that I DON'T have to care about being perfect in what I type! You were correct, I should have used the comparative instead of the superlative, but it didn't really affect the overall meaning of the post as written.

I only take apart someone's posts if someone 1) plays Grammar Nazi to either myself or someone else - and if they do that, their own posts had better be perfect because I WILL note every mistake they make in their own posts, 2) if the typo is funny - I can't resist funny! - or 3) if the post is so riddled with errors because they're either drunk or stoned that I can't understand a darn thing the post is trying to say.

We (as in the royal "we") now return you to your regularly scheduled thread.

 

You see that little thing under the quote? That's called a citation, I provided it just for this sort of question.