Fetal Pain Is A Lie: How Phony Science Took Over The Abortion Debate

I guess people like Thomas Sowell and Ben Carson slipped through the cracks.

PETA isn't made up of conservative Pro-lifers. They are made up of leftist wingnuts. Believe me, this pro-life conservatives is having live lobster tomorrow night. Killing animals for their flesh is murder. Tasty, tasty murder. As the bumper sticker goes.

 

It objectively isn't. Murder has a definition. It's definition is essentially boiled down to the unlawful killing of another. Since abortion is legal, it is OBJECTIVELY NOT murder. Though when have objective facts ever stopped the right from asserting the opposite?

 

Look back. All you can do is attack me and advocate for baby murder. Sad.

 

Murder is framed in a context greater than the collective insanity of 5 tyrants in black robes. Murder is moral judgement.

 

As your handler must know there have been babies survive 21 and a half weeks of gestation so is it his or her premise that the baby begins to feel pain several weeks after 20 weeks?? That would mean that the22 week babies are crying because they are angry about being pulled early. how could they feel pain in the nursery if they can't feel the pain of abortion tools being pushed into their eye or whatever the highly trained and motivated nurse practitioner happens to hit the baby.

If the baby could feel pain at 20 weeks we would have to go back to 18 or 16 weeks but if the baby doesn't feel pain at 20 weeks and can for sure feel pain at 24 weeks then 20 weeks seems about right to me. If you want to kill the baby without pain.

 

OMFG! It's the White Whale, the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow, a unicorn....it's....it's.... unqualified intellectual honesty!

 

I've heard PETA's Newkirk interviewed a couple times and she ALWAYS dodges the abortion question. She's aware that her rat loving cohort of leftists are also baby killers.

 

No it isn't. You can think a type of killing is immoral, that doesn't make it murder just because you want it to be....

 

You CAN be charged with murder of an unborn baby that could also be legally aborted.

It's quite a lot deeper than Miriam Webster but it would require some thinking. Good luck.

 

Look back and READ. I've been advocating for aggressive birth control.

Wrong, as usual. Killing and murder are different things. But once again, to understand you'd have to substitute thought and understanding for fanaticism. I won't hold my breath.

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No only that, but it requires reading comprehension.

Someday, I'd like to see the majority (as in China) FORCE you to have an abortion against your will. I think that's the only way you would EVER see what individual liberty means. But probably not even then.

 

So much for the LYINGASS thread title...and OP claims...

 

Killing slaves was "legal" but i assure you it was still murder.

 

But babies must be eviscerated, at all costs, at any point in the pregnancy,even at the moment of birth.

It's "Womens' Health", dontcha know?

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Great point.

 

What difference does pain make? You don't kill a child because it's wrong to kill a child. If you have a hard time grasping that, there's something wrong with you. That's as far as it goes.

 

At the very least, threads like this give us direct insight into what's involved in protecting individual freedom from fanatics who know what's good for you better than you do - and will FORCE it on you like it or not.

If the fanatics had their way, America would be the land of the free to do what they say and NOTHING ELSE.

 

Uh dude, wouldn't that be a bit of a double standard? After all many conservatives support the death penalty; and lethal injection does make the execution painless -most of the time anyway-.

 

You're on the right track. You protect individual freedom because it's the right thing to do. Maybe others are abusing that freedom, maybe they aren't. But freedom is the name of the game. I would never tell another person either to have or not to have an abortion. But I would fight (and I have fought) to protect their freedom to live their lives without some totalitarian telling them how. It's sad that so many Americans died to defend so many who would (*)(*)(*)(*) on their graves.

 

Yes, and has the above post proves, the fanatics are willing to LIE to push their soulsick craven desperation to kill unborn babies, even as MOST AMERICANS TURN AWAY and seek to SEVERELY LIMIT this barbaric practice.

They OPPOSE improved sanitary/safety standards at abortion mills, and then claim they are all about "Womens' Health"; wlcome to Leftninny Pretzelthink...

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The unborn have the RIGHT to be PROTECTED.

 

It isn't technically a child before birth, it is still a mass of tissue and genetic structure developing into a "Child". There is still massive debate on when life actually begins, so the pro-choicers can make the same statement that there is something wrong with you; as it's okay to throw away a women's life and health for a baby who could potentially grow up to be motherless.

 

Please cite the crime(s) that establish the CRIMINAL GUILT of an unborn baby, making his/her SLAUGHTER the "same" as executing a MURDERER.

How completely RIDICULOUS can one get?

 

Logically sick and truly amoral. You'd want a baby murdered to teach me some morally perverted lesson? Sick.

 

...but there are only two intellectually honest and defensible positions, conception or birth. All else is a hedge and therefore BS. That leaves you the same as either Gosnell or me.

 

A) Innocent people have been executed on death row, so it makes your argument invalid.

B) If we were to treat unborn fetuses as humans, then by that line of reasoning we could put the baby in a detention facility if the mother dies from giving birth, since the baby, in essence, killed it's mother.

C) Blackrook never specified what kind of person that "Someone" is, he made it vague enough so that word can be applied to anyone, including people on death row.


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What crime has a fetus committed?

 

I love how you try to compare my thoughts on this to Mr. Gossnell's, as if to imply I murder babies and women's with (*)(*)(*)(*)ty medical practices in unsanitary conditions. Guess that means I have the right to say your also like Eric Rudolph, the christian terrorists who killed two people in a bomb spree during the 1996 Summer Olympics in Atlanta because the motivation was anti-gay and anti-abortion?