The US Is Not "Right-Wing"

I keep hearing this fallacious assertion from leftists and particularly from ignorant Europeans, but the fact of the matter is that the US is not "right-wing" in the sense they mean it. In fact, our federal government has been absolutely DOMINATED by leftist, progressive policies since 1913. That's why, for starters, we have a national, progressive income tax, and why we have a monetary system that is a centrally planned government monopoly managed by bureaucrats at the Federal Reserve, and why we have Social Security, and Medicare, and Medicaid, and S-CHIP, and food stamps, and farm subsidies, and the SEC, and HUD, and FDIC, and Fannie and Freddie, and FEMA, and the DEA, the NSA, the CIA, the FBI, and on and on and on. All of these institutions came into existence as a result of the beginning of the progressive era in the late 1800's and early 1900's, which just happens to coincide with the burgeoning socialist movements arising in Europe at the time. Before that era, the US didn't have ANY of these institutions, and somehow, we managed to prosper and succeed, yet brainwashed people keep pretending like we live in some "right-wing" laissez-faire economy these days. I think this is actually purposeful propaganda coming from the left. It's a way for them to avoid responsibility for their repeated and manifest ideological failures. If they admitted the truth, that is, the US has been moving significantly to the "left" since the late 1800's, they would have to admit that many of the problems with that system were their own fault, and we all know leftists are pathologically incapable of admitting any fault for anything that has ever happened. Just look at Detroit. Instead of laying the blame where it belongs, with the Democrats who ran the city for decades, they try to find a way to blame the evil corporations, which is just a proxy for the "right-wing" in their minds. So the next time you want to pretend like the US is some kind of "right-wing" anomaly in the modern world, think again, because our system is nothing more than a mimic of European modes of government. WE ARE SOCIALIST.

 

You sure wasted a lot of time and space being wrong here. Nice call-out though, it's appreciated.

 

If I were wrong, you could explain why using evidence to substantiate your position. Since you failed to do that, it's safe to assume there is nothing wrong with what I said. I doubt you could name a single thing that isn't factual or logical about any of it. But expecting you to respond with substance and logic, well, that's asking a lot, given your dismal posting history.

 

You'd have to go back to the caves to justify that fantasy. The USA is the world centre of capitalism, and it is beset by extreme-right madmen, as you know. There has not been a state so extreme-right since the Spanish Inquisition closed down.

 

I can't believe I forgot to include our most recent addition the socialist state, Obamacare. Yes, what a "right-wing" country we are!

We're the center of capitalism, even though our monetary system is a centrally planned federal monopoly. Talk about a fantasy...

 

I posted facts and use logic to come to a conclusion about those facts and the leftists respond with the intellectual equivalent of "nuh-uh". That seems to be all they are capable of when confronted with evidence that undermines their socialist talking points.

 

No civilised country other than the US just allowed the poor to die, but the reactionary nature of your government means you pay twice as much for something far less efficient than we have as a very small improvement, since you had to bribe the fatpigs. Surely even you nutters must understand that without a police state capitalism would disappear in a week?

 

More "right-wing" fiscal and monetary policy...

 

Drop the pizza and back away from the table.

 

I love when Rightwingers say...."Look! 40% of Americans call themselves conservative, only 20% call themselves liberal".

Then you ask "Okay...what is 100% minus 40%? 60%, right? So MORE THAN HALF of the country does NOT want to be conservative...

why not?"

Then, suddenly, math has a "liberal bias".

 

Of course we are not.

Just a silly assertion.

 

Very pretty. Point?

 

What a load of smelly wet crap. We weren't succeeding at anything "before that era" except for deaths by tuberculosis, ignorance, drunkenness, and the highest number of prostitutes per capita in the world. Ask the 49ers how successful they were and also ask them what drove them out west.

 

You are either grossly misinformed or lying. The poor are covered under a myriad of federal assistance programs like Medicaid and food stamps.

If we're paying too much, it's because the federal government has been driving up costs for years, particularly after the implementation of the socialist "great society" under LBJ.

The Bank of England is the throne of the "fatpigs", so maybe you should clean up your own back yard, the cradle of monarchy and imperialism, before you go tilting at windmills abroad.

I want to abolish the state, but that makes me a hardcore "right-winger" in the US.

More empty responses and avoidance of the facts. Basically proving that I am right. Not a single person here can refute anything I said.

 

How am I a "right-winger", exactly? Is being in favor of drug legalization, prison reform, and the restoration of voting rights to felons a "right-wing" position under your twisted socialist paradigm? If I want to abolish the CIA, the NSA, and the DOD to help pay for crumbling entitlement programs, does that make me a "right-winger"? Maybe the problem is not that I'm a "right-winger" but that you are not a real "liberal".

Those 60% of Americans actually fall under the same statist ideology. Most so-called "conservatives" are really just progressives who want the income tax to be at 30% instead of 45%. In fact, the terms "conservative" and "liberal" are so far detached from their original meanings within the context of American politics that it is almost pointless to discuss them because most people don't even know what they mean.

The media is not "liberal", but they are certainly biased.

 

But all the evidence I mentioned says we are. Notice how you did not address any of it.

Is it? For starters, you can explain how our monetary system, a centrally planned federal monopoly, does not fall under the rubric of socialism.

 

They are and no thanks to the likes of your kind. And if your kind had their way, they'd be starving again.

 

In the United States, "right-wing" is taken to mean "laissez-faire" or "small government", but the obvious trend has been in the exact opposite direction of both those concepts, demonstrating just how un-"right-wing" we really are. This country is and has been since the early 1900's, a nation under state socialism and the data shows this to be true.

 

How eloquent.

The Federal government was created in that era, too, so according to your logic, it's nothing more than the product of a debauched and diseased time period.

 

You state to a few they have not addressed your points.
Well you posted 1 long run on paragraph that is difficult to parse, for lazy folks.
Repost your positions in bullets, maybe you'll get some addressing.

 

What's "my kind"?

Because without the federal government practicing socialism, poor people can't get access to food?

 

Those that want to go back to the 1800s.

For many yes they can. Actually everyone will eventually get access to food. By stealing or ending up in jail and letting the taxpayer give them a roof and 3 squares a day. And a whole lot more niceities.

 

Ahhh, wouldn't it be nice if we could handle disease and debauchery with tried and true market forces? C'mon, man, of course the government is a product of a diseased time period.

 

You mean people with time machines?

I'm not sure I follow your reasoning. Aren't there other ways to feed poor people besides using a central government? And do you have any evidence that poor people were starving in America during the 1700's or the 1800's?

What do you mean? How is this relevant to anything?

Then why are you clinging to its existence?

 

President Obama is a centre-right politician by world standards, yet is described as a communist by the loony right of the USA, who even believe that Hitler was a leftist!