No Boeing 767 impacted the South Tower on 911

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Nothing but anecdotal commentary from, sadly, someone who has suffered a brain injury....and seems not quite up to par.

 

So much for the "No-Planers". Mods, please put a fork in this one.

 

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The cheese has totally slid off some crackers here. Grabbe's brain apparently passed away a good ten years ago, ans his ass just hasn't caught up with it yet.

What would be a total mystery would be how and why the government would give Barry Jennings leukemia after he testified to facts that make Dylan Avery and little Dickie look like two kids playing in the sand box.

And how do you stage a commuter train collision so that one specific passenger dies and others survive?

This crap makes no sense at all. Grabbe is losing his marbles.

 

I'm sticking with what he said two minutes after it exploded. If the government didn't want the truth to be known, they would not have released it, in pieces.

"I just caught the second explosion on videotape...No, a bomb, I saw it, NO PLANE HIT NOTHIN', the building exploded from the other tower floors down."

NIST FOIA: Clifton Cloud Clips 1-3 (WTC2 Plane Impact, 9:03am) - YouTube

And again, here are the very lies from Clifton Cloud himself, 7 years later.

"I am telling you absolutely ... you know ... there was a plane" ~ Clifton Cloud

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pumpitout Jeff Hill Talks to 9/11 WTC Witness Clifton Cloud - YouTube

 

At the 11 second mark you can see the plane in Clifton's video.

 

No one doubts that he may not have seen it. Who know, he could have looked away or something completely explainable...but you want to assume he has altered his story because a) he has been bribed, b) he has been threatened with bodily harm or c) all of the above.

Of course he recollection mirrors exactly what people on the ground saw so, (a), (b) and (c) are just nutter claims.

 

7forever, I have a question: What would be the benefit of adding fake plains to the film? Couldn't the government blame Al-Qaeda for for bombs just as easily as for plane crashes?

 

Another question: If the government wants to create the myth that hijacked planes attacked the Twin Towers and the Pentagon, why would they use alternative methods? Why not just recruit 19 f****ed up muslim radicals (easy enough to do) and instruct them to hijack some planes and hit the targets with those planes? Why plant explosives and shoot a missile and then try to convince the rest of us that it was hijacked planes??

 

I supposed they could have. They wanted us to believe real planes crashed into the towers. But, three live broadcasts did not include the fake images, and of those three, wb11 aired a fake plane image 24 minutes later. Also, to use TV as a means of brainwashing us into believing an obvious lie.

 

Stop blathering about 'fake planes'....you have NO proof,and too many people saw theactual planes.


Fail.

 

Stop blathering about 'real planes'....you have NO proof, and too many live shots captured the ball.


Fail.

 

"Then all of a sudden a smaller airplane slammed right into the other tower. It was a smaller, a much smaller plane."

She saw the ball and pretended it was a smaller plane, but it was simply the ball that chopper 4, ny1, and wb11 aired live.

9/11 Eyewitness Carrie Feinstein Says Military Plane Hit WTC2 - YouTube

 

"Delta 2433 we're passing right by him, we'll see if we can get you an ID on him"
"Right now he's at 28 he's 11 o'clock and less than a mile"
"Looks like a United 76-200, as far as I can tell"

"Laguardia a 737 just struck the Word Trade Center"

Give up your cherry picking insanity, you lost this one the moment your said no planes hit the WTC. What an obvious fail.

 

NO 'live shots' captured a 'ball',and thousands saw,IN PERSON,the jets hit

collosal faik on your part,7

 

there is absolutely NO chance there were planes, but still, you'll carry on spewing that myth.

Chopper 4 is the only authentic looking footage. At no time during the two minutes prior to the orb appearing, was a plane filmed coming from behind/south of the towers. That is essential to the flight 175 myth. It would have been filmed had it really been there. It was not there.

Camera zoom demonstrates how a distant object will show more character detail. The zoom on the ball shows no detail of any known flying object and was smaller than a chopper.

 

I see wings on that plane.

Good confirmation, 7.More proof that a 767 impacted the south tower.

 

I do have to laugh at the zoom comparison. If 7forever cannot tell the quality difference between a camera zooming, and video-editing zoom done in a computer program, then he really is lost. And he continues to ignore the 50+ camera angles I have already linked him, and instead focuses on the most out of focus, blurry, graining one he can find. That's a good research skills ya got there!!

 

But the question is why the government would want us to believe there were planes. I don't understand why they wouldn't have just left it at "they bombed the WTC" and that's that. Why jump through hoops to convince the world there were plains?

 

The chopper is more detailed because it was closer to the camera than the plane ever got. That bloody simple.

 

debating No-Planers is like debating Flat-Earthers.

its really not worth it.

 

First, the "plains" are out west and have nothing to do with the WTC.

Second, please explain who placed all the plane parts around NYC.

 

So they had a plan where 4 planes go missing but they use none of them? In areas that are tourist locations? That is probably the stupidest idea I've ever heard.

 

LOL.. these are guys are so friggin crazy

videos showing planes hitting towers fake because the main media and press were in the cover up as-well. I mean this is the same media that bashed Bush all the time lol.

Conspirators:

media
President Bush and his administration
CIA
NSA
FBI
NYPD
Firefighters
witness who saw plane
American Airlines and Unite airlines
many more..

and eveyone kept their silence and covered it all up


I MEAN.. how crazy is this? I'm trying to think if even Hollywood has come up with a movie based on a conspiracy of this magnitude and i can't think of a movie. This is how crazy this is, not even Hollywood comes up with crazy stories like this...