17 trillion dollars

We are now over 17 TRILLION DOLLARS in debt.

IMO it is time for fool tax and spend democrats to accept the fact we can no longer keep spending at the rate we are. We are spending over a trillion dollars a year we dont have. It is time for democrats to realize the era of big spending and big government has to be over with. They had their fun buying votes with taxpayer money, and their day in the sun has to be done away with. What is really bad with all that spending is the fact it created a dependent give me something for nothing class of people. To keep spending this way will ruin the country.

 

the vast majority of that debt was put there by GOP policies enshrined as law.
Spending increased far more under Reagan and the Bushes than it did under Clinton and Obama.
Hey, that's just reality, don't let it affect your opinion, someone has to be ludicrous....

 

Its so very true and this crazy spending is what is killing us and the real reason why we keep running up against the debt ceiling. The Democrats message that the Republicans have cause this problem, is being reinforced by the main stream media echo chamber. Frankly the Republicans are losing this battle of propaganda.

 

obama has raised it from 9.7 trillion to 17.1 trillion..not anyone else ..he did it..it will be around 21 to 23 trillion when he leaves..exit head from azz someday and you will see this goober..more like a big booger

 

Thanks for the delusional numbers, you thoroughly expose that your rant is from outside reality....

 

really? better check it yourself..they are correct..do you ever read the news? or just watch the comedy channel for your news info

 

You didn't get those numbers from the news, you may have got them from propaganda, but that just demonstrates that someone has fooled you

 

These are not even numbers we can fathom. I think that the truth of the matter is that the system is so jacked up that any deviation from where we are headed would cause a collapse of massive proportions. Of course, this will happen anyway. (shrug) Once Uncle Ben stops printing money in the Fed's basement, it's all over. Did you see how Wall Street now reacts to him? If Ben is up, they are up, but if Ben suggests easing the mass printing, they are in hysterics and the markets slump. It is much like a junkies need for a fix.

I got done reading a book called, "Hitler's Beneficiaries", by Gotz Aly. He is a historian who revealed much of the economics of the Third Reich.

Essentially all effort was made to seize as much money as possible in order to throw it at the war effort. This meant centralizing power and then using that power to throw at the collectivist war machine. Interestingly, they used the money for two objectives. Of course, they used it for weapons and arms but they also used it to create a massive nanny state. In fact, Germany had the first mandated national health care insurance. They had learned from the lessons from WW1 when an uprising occurred in Germany over poor living conditions during the war in Germany, and sought all means to prevent this from happening. As a result, they insisted on keeping the tax rate low for the average German, while taxing to death the top 4% of Germans. This only brought in revenue from the top 4%, but more importantly it also made the average German glad to see the rich folk get cut off at the knees which added to the popularity of the Nazi regime. They also stole from Jews and from conquered territories to make ends meet. Of course, this was not enough. Hitler also had to incur massive debt. Gotz writes, "The Nazi government bought the domestic loyalty of the German people through initially irresponsible, then outright criminal financial practices. In 1935, Hitler prohibited the Reich budget from being published. He had good reason, since the following year his policies would come to depend more on mortgage future assets.

Gotz concludes that Hitler was forced into a war of speed since the economics of his regime was falling apart. Gotz writes, "Hitler was like an amateur tightrope walker who can maintain his balance only by taking ever faster steps -- and who inevitably falls from the wire."

Does any of this sound familiar? The US also has massive debt, as they throw all their money at the military and the nanny state. Bush and Obama also voted to keep tax rates for the average American. The US government refuses to pass budgets now as well.

Hitler was after a one world order through rapid military conquest. Then debt would have been meaningless to him. But what of the US? What is their goal? What if it is also a one world order? Perhaps they are all globalists who wish the destroy the US economically in order for the strongest nation in the world to surrender its sovereignty and perhaps bring in the IMF to restructure the economic fabric of the world. They could then set up some UN like entity as a one world government. Who knows? All that I know is that king Obama is also a tight wire walker as well. Time is running out and all he can do is walk faster and faster and faster until........

 

take a look at this goober..if you cant understand it maybe spongebob can help you

http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/blog/?p=11013

 

And even though those numbers are wrong, they aren't as wrong as the numbers you quoted in the OP....

 

oh i am sorry..i did not now that you didnt know how to read...maybe when you grow up someday you will understand the english language..

 

You would have a better chance to walk on the surface of the Sun than for those clowns to stop spending on their own. Do not think hundreds of millions of that spending hasn't went to people that will kick back 80 or 90 percent of it to the democrat coffers for the 2014 election.in order to regain the House and Senate. Then Obama gets 2 years of total control. If that happens this nation is sunk.

 

What a lie! Did you just fly in from Mars?

 

if goober is an example of a true democrat we are in big trouble..are they really that brain dead? he scares the crap out of me...my 10 year old grandson is smarter that him

 

i cant stand rush limbaugh but maybe his is totally right when he calls them low information voters..they really are...but I still wont listen to him..

 

This is what you post, and then for proof you link to a chart that shows the debt at 10.6 Trillion in 2008, before Obama was elected.
So
A) you got the numbers wrong
B) you blame Obama, but you don't explain which policies increased the debt.
For example, his policy to treat wounded soldiers rather than euthanize them cost billions, is this money that you would have saved?
His policy to pay retired military their pensions, rather than to repudiate those pensions cost billions, is that money you would have saved?
What spending would you have cut?
Would you have ended Social Security payments?
Are you just blustering about numbers, or do you have specific areas where Obama could have shaved 5 trillion of spending over the last 5 years?

 

those numbers are year end..dec of each year...


here us another one for you

http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/spending_chart_2000_2014USp_15s2li011mcn_H0t_Total_National_Debt

 

hey goober you should try reading the wall street journal..but sorry they dont have a comic section so you may not like it..

 

Cloward Piven strategy in action.

 

Sorry, it's less than a trillion dollars. CBO projection at 670 billion, down from 1.1 trillion last year. Projected to shrink every year after.

Honestly, what is it that conservatives expect? The deficit to magically be reduced to zero in a few years?

The vast, vast, vast majority of the debt came from loss of revenue from the Bush Tax Cuts, the wars, and the economic downturn.

 

The debt and the annual deficit are not the same thing. Each deficit adds to the debt.

And you are mistaken.

 

I know... and the deficit is projected to be 670 billion this year.

...About?

 

The debt is 17 trillion. What don't you understand about that?

 

Want to save a trillion ,stop giving Wall Street $85bn a month for ??????????

85 times 12 =just on 1 Trillion annually!

There you go problem solved ,Stop the Capitalist Welfare State!

"dependent give me something for nothing Class =Capitalist Class of America."
Fits perfectly .Almost to the Cent!

 

You forgot about the $85bn a month to Wall Street!
Welfare for Wall Street!