There are Lies, Damned Lies and Democrats

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  1. RtWngaFraud

    RtWngaFraud Banned

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    Well, when the biggest POS was the head of the free world, who destroyed our economy, is the biggest scumbag lying snake the country has ever suffered through in history, and did everything they now complain about, and right wingers don't want to talk about it, I can understand that.

    The "we hate all things Obama and will obstruct all things Obama, no matter what" gets pretty old too.
     
  2. RtWngaFraud

    RtWngaFraud Banned

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    He's a vast improvement over what the right offers, any day of the week. No worse example than Bush, the most recent right wing offering, to highlight and represent that fact.
     
  3. Wehrwolfen

    Wehrwolfen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Compared to this last Democratic Party president, the last Republican President was intelligent and a resounding success.
     
  4. Wehrwolfen

    Wehrwolfen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Our economy was doing fine until 2007 when the Democrat majority took over in both Houses. Their tireless work to destroy America began in January 2007 and hasn't stopped yet.
     
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    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Everything was just peachy.

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  6. JIMV

    JIMV Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    A few quotes...

    “Fictus sed Verus” – Fake but accurate

    Repetition does not transform a lie into a truth.
    Franklin D. Roosevelt

    A lie told often enough becomes the truth.
    Lenin

    "There is so much to be said in favor of modern journalism. By giving us the opinions of the uneducated it keeps us in touch with ignorance of the community." Oscar Wilde

    [Government's] great contribution to human wisdom...is the discovery that the taxpayer has more than one pocket.
    H. L. Mencken

    “Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is argument of tyrants. It is the creed of slaves.”
    William Pitt in the
    House of Commons
    November 18, 1783

    And finally, my view about Government as a whole today

    - Oliver Cromwel's Address to the Rump Parliament (20 April 1653)

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    A lie is saying something you know not to be true, not simply being wrong. Bush was wrong, Obama is lying
     
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    JIMV Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    'Junk' policies that leave out coverage (and cost) for mandatory coverage like pregnancy for the old....
     
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    JIMV Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    "Bush Did It" as a defense in 2013...how droll

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  9. Johnny-C

    Johnny-C Well-Known Member

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    Let's face it now, the REAL problems tend to stem from insurance companies caring more about 'profit', than taking of America's healthcare needs.

    I'm certain that I won't be affording those who are more interested in 'money' than taking care of people, the greater degree of credibility or trust.
     
  10. teeko

    teeko New Member Past Donor

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    Obama beat Bush in lies 6 months in to his first term.......:yawn:
     
  11. JIMV

    JIMV Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Actually, the 'real problems' have to do with the lefts desire to control everything and grow government even when it simply does not work.
     
  12. Wehrwolfen

    Wehrwolfen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Bush inherited Clinton's recession

    By cher
    September 8, 2008

    John Kerry declared, "[d-179776] inherited the strongest economy in the world - and brought it to its knees." There is no evidence to support this claim. In fact, the evidence now suggests that President Bush inherited a recession. Did the recession begin in the last quarter of 2000 or during the first months of the Bush presidency. Granted, even if the truth is that the recession began in the days after George W. Bush's inauguration, most reasonable people would conclude that a president cannot on a dime turn a $10 trillion economy one way or the other. However, data and supporting analyses from economists indicate that the recession began well before Bush took office, making political criticism of the president on the jobs issue even more inappropriate. According the National Bureau of Economic Research (NBER), the unofficial arbiter of business cycles, the recession began in March 2001 and ended in November 2001. NBER analyzes four data series from the U.S. Department of Commerce, the Federal Reserve Board, and other government sources. While previously NBER indicated the recession started in March 2001 (it has not formally revised that date), official revisions of the data indicate that the recession started earlier than that. For example, under revised calculations, real disposable income peaked in October 2000, rather than steadily rising in 2000 and early 2001 as indicated in the original data. Industrial production/manufacturing and trade sales both peaked in June of 2000, instead of September and August, respectively. Non-farm payroll employment peaked in February 2001, not March 2001. And monthly gross domestic product, which the NBER recently announced will be included in dating recessions, also peaked in 2000. According to the Council of Economic Advisers, the median date of these five data series is October 2000 - at least three months before George W. Bush took office. We also know that the stock market started to decline in March of 2000, business investment began to fall in the third quarter of 2000, and initial jobless claims began to rise at the end of 2000 - more evidence that the U.S. economy in late 2000 was in fact "on the front end of a recession," as Vice President-elect Dick Cheney observed on Meet the Press on December 3, 2000. Senator John Kerry and other Democratic party leaders ignore or gloss over these facts. However, even professor Joseph Stiglitz, the chairman of the Council of Economic Advisers under President Clinton, admits that "the economy was slipping into recession even before Bush took office, and the corporate scandals that are rocking America began much earlier." To be sure, the Federal Reserve's twelve-month tightening cycle that began in mid-1999 contributed to the economic slowdown. It is also true that cyclical forces in the economy led to the type of business retrenchment that we have seen in the past and that will likely always be seen to some extent in a market economy. But a significant contributing factor in the slowdown was the policy direction of the Clinton administration, which included an aggressive use of antitrust regulation in the high-tech marketplace, a lack of a national energy policy which resulted in energy-price spikes, and a high and rising federal tax burden. A key area in which presidents can have an impact on the economy is tax policy. President Clinton raised tax rates right after taking office in 1993, and presided over a massive "stealth tax hike" which ultimately hurt the economy.

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    Read more:
    http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-80312
    See:
    Democrats caused the recession and Republicans tried to stop it ...
    http://winteryknight.wordpress.com/2009/02/22/democrats-caused-the-recession-and-republicans-tried-to-stop-it/

    Feb 22, 2009 ยท The American Spectator notes that he included ... Democrats caused the recession ... This was written 4 years before the market started falling in 2007.

    Oddly your graph omitted that little fact. Then again perhaps you have no recollection of what occurred 13 years ago.
     
  13. teeko

    teeko New Member Past Donor

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    We don't have to re-write history Obama and the democraps are doing for us........I didn't suffer
    with Bush in fact income tax was less under Bush...
     
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    LOL this kind of sewage cracks me up. Here's a thought - don't buy junk insurance policies.
     
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    B. Hussein Obama is the worst president in the history of our country, bar none! His lies, non-patriotism, incompetence, arrogance, and non-transparency easily put him in that category! :rant:
     
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    And those are his virtues....
     
  17. Johnny-C

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    Actually, those who think standards need not be in place to prohibit the sale of such "junk", are simply delusional. It's as if they think human nature needs zero controls placed upon it.

    I get the feeling that your thinking is both flawed and limited (although I hope I'm wrong about that).
     
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    that's right. There are liars(GOP), damn liars(Tea Party), and democrats.
     
  19. Johnny-C

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    Just STOP with the parroting of the BS.

    You and those repeating that foolish mantra may buy it, but many others know better.
     
  20. RtWngaFraud

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    Bush did it and you deny it. Even more hilarious.

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    The wealthy always make out very well under Republicans...that's the point. The poor? Not so much.
     
  21. teeko

    teeko New Member Past Donor

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    I am not rich... I don't want the government telling me how much I should eat how much pop I should drink and most of all how much healthcare I must buy.
     
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    You want to mantian your Individual Liberty. YOU are an American.

    I know the question is impolite, but it is VERY relevant. How do Democrats "...secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity...?"

    If there is no answer, what is the point of Democrats? :popcorn:
     
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    teeko New Member Past Donor

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    I see no point.
     
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    We don't need to go back that far, the Tea Party folks lie about everything all the time. They can't get through the day without lying about something.
     
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    You're PROJECTING again.
     

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