America is Ready for a New Party

We take a cue from the way the Arab Spring caught on, use the internet to forge a coalition of Americans looking for democracy. This doesn't have to be, and thus shouldn't be a political party. We should support candidates from either party so long as they pledge to vote to call for the Article V Convention. Once we get the new Convention, everything else will shake out in the end.

The Tea Party is funded by, and largely run on the whims of, the wealthy. It is NOTHING BUT the extremist wing of the GOP. Honestly the Tea Party is a study in 21st Century propaganda and how the rank and file of a movement can be snowed easily.

 

I have started a new group through this site called "Americans for American Democracy". Message me if you're interested in joining, we can have some more in-depth discussions about what to do in a smaller setting.
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This is amazing, I never though that this post would get this kind of response. We need to discuss this further, but this is an amazing start.

 

A poitical party for moderates would be beneficial; god only knows that moderates make up a good percentage of the voting block in this country.

 

Still waiting to see what this new party stands for.

As far as I can see, there is little room between the two major camps except "status quo."

 

everything was ok before the Tea Party decided that compromise=treason.

 

The Tea Party are a faction of the Republican Party....who despite their bluster....WILL remain a loyal faction of the Republican Party. Period.

They may get some nutter the Nomination....but if the "RINO" wins, they still vote Republican.

They will NEVER be allowed to become a 3rd Party....even Limbaugh and Fox News will CRUSH any attempt by them to do so.

 

Even before the Tea Party got involved, the aftermath of the ideological shift has seen the parties become camps of extremism with the middle ground a virtual no-mans-land of ignored moderates and centrists.

That's why I'm calling this more of a popular movement than a political party. People on both sides of the aisle see the downside of the two-party system, so it has to be about what is the best form of organizing our democracy to be the most reflective. I can only see the extremism growing with each cycle and more and more Americans becoming disenfranchised with both of the major parties.

 

please don't engage.....

 

Still no "centrist" party agenda.

I'm not surprised. The two big parties have staked out broad but contradictory positions.

All that's left is "do nothing."

The thread is sinking, like most "centrist third party" threads do and for the same reason. Nothing to offer.

 

Let's just start with having a party that DOESN'T represent the rich first, and iron out the details later.

 

This thread is a call to action, not a party convention. I just wanted to see if there were any like minded people out there. Obviously there are. So now that we see the common goal, we can organize.

 

So, how about we focus on simply reducing the size and scope of government until that is largely accomplished to a practical and efficacious level, then worry about what comes next.

 

Typical Leftie, faced with honorable, focused, constructive and hopeful opposition, immediately begin searching for wedge issues of division to exploit.

The TEA Party is about reducing the Size and Scope of Government to something which is sustainable and affordable. Until that is accomplished, your wedge issues have no meaning.

Fiscal Survival FIRST!

You put out the fire under your feet, then, maybe, worry that the shade of paint on the wall in the 2nd bathroom is a tad too yellow.

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Any Political Movement or Party is defined by is MEMBERS, not its opposition.

The TEA Party is what the members of the party say it is...

Since the Lefties has misused and abused the official powers of government agencies to squelch the formation of a TEA Party official leadership apparatus, it remains just a grass roots group of people attracted to and motivated by a common concern in the growing size and scope of government.

The Left forced the TEA Party to become an illusive ghost political party... but one that still has fangs..... now the Left can live with the results.

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One Leftie says the TEA Party is just a wing of the Republican Party, the next says that the Republicans will "Crush" them. (Just how Bi-Polar are you? Or has it gone beyond that? ... Ummmm Medications? Really. )

Sounds like a independent 3rd party to me.

Also sounds like somebody is quite worried about the THREAT they represent.

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The Primary Threats presented by the TEA Party to the Left are four fold:

1] It is a place for unhappy, prior Democrats to go, that is not the Republican Party they have been taught since birth to hate.

2] Its principle focus is limiting the size and scope of Government, the source of all power, wealth and self-importance of Lefties.

3] Not all, but most of the TEA Party members are pragmatic enough to understand that in a two party system, the Republican Party is the lesser of two evils. So they run their TEA Party Candidate as an alternative to the Republican Candidate, rather than acting as a vote splitting spoiler, independent 3rd party candidate. They understand that it is better to put a Republican into office, than split the vote and put in a Democrat.

4] As a Grass Roots party, which has been denied the ability to raise tax-free funds to form an official leadership and political platform, it remains a GHOST PARTY, which cannot be attacked in most the traditional ways that the left and MSM destroys the Democrats/Leftist opposition.


It is a very powerful set of attributes.

What I find Hilarious, is that the most powerful of them, the Ghost-Party attribute, was created by the abuse and corruption of the Left.

The Lefties are completely justified in fearing the TEA Party.

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You're dreaming or on crack, and I'm inclined to say the latter is more likely. The early threat the Tea Party posed was to the Democrats, but as the movement motivated farther to the right through the donations, the threat to the Democrats diminished and now the primary threat is to the GOP itself, not to the Democrats. Just sit back and watch on Election Day 2014. The moderate Republicans will be forced out in favor of Tea Party-backed candidates.

There is no pragmatism in the Tea Party. If there was, there wouldn't have been a government shutdown. The Conservative partisan conflict will be fun to watch play out. I plan on releasing my book at its zenith. Should make me beau-coup bucks

The Tea Party could easily go ahead and file the paperwork to become an independent political party, but as I have pointed out before, that will split the Conservative vote and surrender at least one election cycle to the Democrats. Don't believe me? Look at the Election of 1912. I honestly wish they would, it'd expose the flaws in our very system I've been saying were in the system for the past two years.

If the mainstream GOP moderates can get the will to, they will crush the Tea Party faction out of existence as a threat to the GOP's chances of maintaining parity with the Democrats.

I'm only worried because I know that the only victims in this whole fiasco will end up being 300 million Americans who are going to have to come to terms with the reality that their system had crumbled decades ago and they didn't see it coming. We'll look like the biggest bunch of fools if what I am figuring will happen actually does.

Yeah, by that logic, the KKK was just a social club for whites....

The GOP fueled the monster, and it'll turn on them in a matter of cycles if they can't kill it first.

Nice try.

The Tea Party movement started as an honest Libertarian movement, but was corrupted by the big-money donors into little more than the extremist wing of the GOP. Honestly, those who still swear by the Tea Party are the biggest bunch of brain-dead idiots I've ever seen. The Tea Party is no longer about the average American, it's about getting more power for the rich.

 

The Democrat party will all but disappear in the next five years. So, there will new plenty of room for a new party.

 

That's kinda my thoughts.

I think it will be composed primarily of the same people who started the TEA Party movement, but the Left has expended so much political propaganda capital soiling that brand name, it will likely emerge under a new brand.

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That's funny. That's just what most people think about the 'hard right' party (aka...the GOP).

 

I'd like to add, 'a party that makes it easy to watch them and isn't spending too much time watching us' as opposed to this secret courts, NSA nonsense we have going on right now and throughout the last presidency.

Also, I think we need the power of nationwide voting to recall Presidents and nationwide voting on major issues. That last bit might take awhile to convince people of, though.

 

The last thing America needs right now is another moderate party. There's not even enough distinction between the Democrats and Republicans as it is. The only way for any party (be it new or preexisting) to really make any kind of solid impact today is to provide a stark contrast to what is currently available. Right now there really isn't much choice. It's all Coke or Pepsi. Give me a (*)(*)(*)(*)ing Dr. Pepper already.

 

America desperately needs a party that DOESN'T primarily represent the super wealthy. (Coke already owns Dr. Pepper).

 

What if 'moderate' became, not another identical party, but a party that took from both sides? NSA spying is bad, Libertarians object to it just as much as leftwingers.

I'm sick of people going after free speech and right to an attorney, and I don't mind defending the Second Amendment, either.

Our government is crooked and corrupt, and plenty on the right and left agree on that, so what if we had a party willing to take all private money out of it? Union and corporate?

And so on.