Events similar to 9/11: Pirelli Tower, Empire State Building

I didn't confuse a thing..it was a simple analogy..one you missed apparently exactly wjhat should have happened to the jets?

were they supposed to 'bounce off'?


You really have to ask that?...common sense will tell you.

 

It's the same crew in all the threads.

 

All on the same board....duh

 

Why does that matter? Your analogy isn't so good. You can't compare the two. A rifle bullet usually does not exceed 50 grams in weight (minus casing which is not shot at the target). An average human weights 70.000 grams. Now 70.000 grams is nothing compared to 500.000 grams!! That is half a ton! Provided that it didn't hit any organs (which the Twin Towers didn't have anyway) what kind of structural damage could a 150 gram bullet do to you as long as you have half a ton?

What difference does exterior material resistance make for either the towers or the plane?

Ask what? Tell me directly.

 

It's NOT a bad analogy,it's an example of a smaller object at great speed inflicting damage to a larger object,same as the towers

The mass of the plane plus inertia,pretty much tore the guts out of the towers,so to speak..

And I'm asking YOU what you think the planes should have done when they hit the tower

Ever have a broken water pipe in your house?

 

Why does one bridge collapse but not another? Its because they were designed differently. WTC was supported from within by four main columns whereas most other buildings are not. Comparing WTC collapse to other buildings that didnt collapse is ridiculous at best. Thats like saying why didnt the volkswagon passenger survive the crash when the guy who hit them driving the ford 350 did. Both cars are made out of metal right?

 

These tall buildings are rare throughout the world, each one of them being very unique. Whenever engineers design something they feel the need to test it a lot (a vehicle, a tractor, a tank). Buildings can't be tested.

The 9/11 debate is fueled by the fact that never in the history of our world have skyscrapers of that size ever been destroyed or demolished so nobody knows apart from that example what demolitions/collapses of that size would/are supposed to look like in the real world, hence a lot of room for speculation. That leaves even experts disagreeing on whether they should have resisted or not.

But you didn't get to see how fire itself performed inside since the buildings were not transparent and you couldn't follow what happened inside.

I think you agree that there are so many scenarios where the compromise of a steel structure can not be measured ahead, only broadly predicted, even in pre-set laboratory conditions. No matter how much we understand building materials, the real world experiment always beats us humans, otherwise there would be no Mythbusters, just books. You talk as if the towers had computer monitored sensors in each bean feeding info to a central control panel about changes in temperature and pressure like a space shuttle. The towers didn't have that.

Experts disagree very much. Even Les Robertson himself, the structural engineer of the WTC, the guy who literally designed the buildings is very uncertain.

 

yep, its the same dumb arguments truthers have been saying for years, no matter how many times they are shown to be wrong. blind ignorance is truly incredible to watch, and no one puts that show on better than a truther.

 

Did all the people ever involved in a car crash so far survive except for just one single case?

 

It seems to me, that the concept of the analogy,may be somewhat lost on you,based on your responses,that is.

 

Pure comedy.
You official truth debunkers are so smart you can suspend Newton's laws of motion three times in one day.

 

There's a great variety of cars but overall all car crashes happen the same way.

 

Uh-huh....

 

and truthers are so devoid of anything that resembles intellect, they actually believe that for those buildings to fall that the laws of motion had to be violated. then cherry pick quotes so they are viewed out of context, and just say dumb things like cave dwellers armed with boxcutters took down the greatest military in the world on 9/11. Here's a clue genius, saying (*)(*)(*)(*) like that shows how clueless you truly are. All that arrogance is nothing more than a cover for your ignorance. You do realize that most of the hijackers met while attending university in Hamburg, don't you? Would you like to point me to which cave they lived in? Everything I have seen leads me to believe they shared an apartment. the attacks began with simple but deadly boxcutters, however they were not used against the US military, they were used against commercial airline pilots. At no time during the attacks, were the hijackers engaged in combat with the military. They did however use planes as missles which triggered events that led to the death of 3000 innocent people. It's going on 13 years now and all you have done is put a new wrapper on the same old silly, laughable, nonsense claims.

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WHAT? You can not be serious.

 

I don't have the exact address of the cave where Osama bin Laden hid out but Secretary of War Donald Rumsfeld did. There were many of them. Evidently Osama was able to move from one cave to another through tunnels or some sort of cocamamy explanation. It worked quite well because Osama was able to hide from our multi-billion dollar military industrial complex for 10 years. If you can believe that.

Rumsfeld Describes Elaborate Cave System in Afghanistan
[video=youtube;hf0XI1X34mQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hf0XI1X34mQ[/video]

 

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All the presented buildings are different type structures yet they burned the same way. In 1975 Tower 1 also burnt the same way. Looking at Tower 2 on 9/11 you can see that the fire there was no more different. Just office fires on a larger scale. The fuel in the airplane was sent through the building by the impact force and most of it burnt outside. The rather narrow scar-like holes prove that there was no explosion inside the building, otherwise the entire facade would have fallen off in that area. There would have been a large, more round hole just like in Pirelli Tower.

 

Yeah,right

 

What dablunder site did you get that crap from?

the wtc had to the tune of 47 main core columns.

steel does not respond differently to heat because its in a different design.

 

well they sure handed NIST their asses!

 

excellent.well done,you took all the paid shills that have penetrated this forum to school.what they have always failed to answer and never get around as well is that bld 7 is the crux of the 9/11 coverup they cant get around in the fact there were other buildings much closer to the towers with far more extenseive fires and far more damage done to them yet they all remained standing as you can see in this video.

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thats a great way of putting it.I always refer to them as DEB WUNKER sites but a good one as well.

 

dont have time to look for the video now but i'll post it later.they always ignore it but the thread starter wont so will post it for him,

 

Yes all the buildings ever hit by Jet Airliners have collapsed.

 

LOL ok nevermind youre correct, an army of people working for months brought in wheel barrow after wheel barrow of wire and explosives, somehow wired the building without a single person ever even noticing a single thing. I think a shot from the grassy knoll brought it down.

 

That is the most stupid thing that you have ever posted to this forum.

The longer a steel beam is in relation to its thickness, the more it will sag when heated. Fact. No argument from any rational source.

Steel coated in a heat-resistant material will resist the loss of strength many times longer than will unprotected steel. Only very stupid people think that the heat protection on the steel in the core was undamaged when the airplanes entered the building. Being exposed to more heat on one side than on the other causes steel to change its shaped. ALWAYS. A fry cook knows that much. Why does that stupid high school teacher not? Could it be mental illness? He sounds like he is mentally ill when he talks.

If you heat a piece of steel unevenly, it longer holds its load in an exact up-and-down alignment and is subject to bending and failing. Only ignorant people do not grasp that.

 

you should probly review what the word respond means. lol

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really?

what were they bringing in that would require that much material

oh and wiring a building is neanderthal btw., LOL