NAACP Jumps On the Phil Robertson Bash Wagon: He's a Racist

I thought calling him a Red neck racist is racist as well. I would think he has racist views for sure.

 

He also said they were like white trash, which means blacks and white trash are on the same level. We all know that white trash is thought of as less than, or worthless. It was his opinion that when blacks sang while they worked that meant that they were happy with their over all status and happy with the Jim Crow laws which kept them from rising above their situation. He is either out of touch or is trying to make light of his racist attitude.

 

I have no doubt that Phil knows exactly what black people went through. I'm sure people talked about these things openly. Even if he didn't hear about these things in his youth, which I doubt, he has heard about them at some point. Surely he wouldn't think being lynched, hung or burned in the streets is something black people were happy about. He either turns a blind eye or he simply doesn't care. Or worse, he thinks black people deserved the treatment they got before and during the civil rights suffrage movement.

 

The history of black people does not revolve around Jim Crow.

Phil never mentioned Jim Crow.

Angry libs brought that into the conversation not him.

To paraphrase what he said was that black people who went to work every day, attended church and worshiped God, marry and raise children rather than abandon them were better off then than they are now.

And if you can't find any black leaders willing to admit that it's not Phil's fault.

 

The NAACP is racist in itself. They want equal rights but, only for colored people. Yeah...

 

Please think about that, for you to condemn an entire group of people for what this man says is as bad as his remarks. It was obviously a stupid thing for him to say, and way beyond naive. The man went to College for Gods sake, do we need to know more than that?

The man is a product of his environment, no different then many poor underprivileged people that we give slack to for their outrageous behavior. Do they know better? course they do. It's just difficult to get the ''street'' out of many a people. Us Italians had the same problem when we came here...

 

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Uh. Wtf. are you trying to say he's LESS intelligent and educated because he went to college?

Could you be a little more condescending? I'm from the same background as Phil and, well, you know we simple country folk don't pick up on subtlety very well. I grew up in about the same era as Phil and I don't recall any of the blacks that would occasionally bring US food when we were "under budget" as my mother used to call it sang at all, nor even had gardens to work in. I do remember that a lot of them were in the same situation as I was, since my father died when I was 13.

Part of all the proof I need is that Phil had already SAID he was leaving soon. I'm not taking him, or the Robertsons, to court for anything so I don't need any more proof than the fact that they have already demonstrated they are near genius self promoters and this is what a good self promoter would do in his circumstances. I'm not saying there's a "conspiracy". I'm saying it seems obvious to me they want to be the right wing Kardassians. Phil is playing to his audience and I think this indicates that he knows his audience well and felt he could count on most of them to rally behind him, which is exactly what they are doing. He is playing them like a violin

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He did specifically mention Jim Crow, and his comments in this regard were inherently racist and ignorant. He suggested that black people were happier being subjugated. Suggesting that this was natural order. Denying this is... not well reflected on the defenders character.

I find the gay argument null and void... but the suggestion that society was better for their subjugation is abhorrent. It is damaging to our country.

I will tell you a thing I observed from white guys who made their living on the poor blacks in this country. They treated them like children. They talked to them like children. Poor blacks loved them for their "service" which was exploitation, to the black community, and they loved them for the profits they brought. This model works with any disenfranchised people. It is not, though it would seem, accurate. I LOVED that my vote was discarded for this black president for this reason. It was my silver lining. My conservative racist friends will argue with me... because they are equally ignorant. Poor and uneducated is poor and uneducated. Treating them all as children will serve one well... explaining process to them as you would your child will have a net positive result if you use a gentle voice and supportive language. It has (*)(*)(*)(*) all to do with race. We are in a transition wherein we are encountering a generation which does not require coddling to prevent robbery. There will be old/new school clash examples. I (*)(*)(*)(*)ing hate racists. It annoys me to no end when I criticise this president under the charge of racism. It is just one of those bumps in the road I have to deal with. I don't know where I am going with this. Phil is a full on unabashed racist. I dropped season 1 disk 1 from my cue because... I have enough backwoods family to satisfy whatever it would provide.

 

I sense a lot of recreational drug use in this poster's past.

Phil's grandson is BLACK. He GREW UP with FRIENDS who were BLACK. Your post is IGNORANT.

 

From a Reagan republican I find this particularly offensive... so as you are aware.

 

Your posts are consistently ambiguous and cryptic.

 

I am clear. Your interpretation notwithstanding. While under Jim Crow laws Phil said:

It is revisionist at best. I am willing to bet decent money that the blacks he worked along side would sing a different tune, and his position on the matter was ignorant... or purposefully dismissive of the plight.

Jim Crow was not constitutional, and I expect a Reagan republican to respect the constitution. To attack ME under such guise is offensive. If that is not clear enough, I can go further.

There is a huge problem within the black community and subculture... subjugation is not the answer to that problem... and to suggest I am ignorant for saying such reflects poorly on the man who holds your avatar... and it offends me.

 

I find no reason to disbelieve the man, and only your prejudices allow you to. He does not strike me as dishonest in any way, and his community was small. It is more than plausible that racism and bigotry did not strike his world at the time.

But your cynicism ruins your open-mindedness.

This is not a commentary on Jim Crow laws. This is a commentary on one man's personal anecdote, and his corollary was to hearken to what he considered a simpler time, unpolluted by entitlement, grudges or political correctness. To make it more than that is nothing more than propagandic usery.

 

Sorry, have to disagree, it appears he was just as poor as they were. He never said he was a victim and they didn't either.

 

My families existence at the time, in the south, ruins my suspension of disbelief. You can pretend Jim Crow did not affect those for whom it was effected if you like. Myself, I recognize injustice whether or not you tell me the subjugate was "happy". To call me personally ignorant for this understanding, is offensive sir.

I don't care if the head house (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*) thought he was happy... he was a (*)(*)(*)(*)ing slave. For Phil to suggest otherwise, or for you to support such a belief, is ignorant... and that's the end of it.

 

Sorry, I do as well.

Being poor != being poor and black under Jim Crow

I am very unlikely to be beaten within an inch of my life for eyeballing a white girl on the way home from my sharecropping.

 

No. If you were - or any liberal was - insightful or wise to any degree you'd have understood that his 'likening' extended only to the social construct that made both 'white trash' and black people kindred spirits. He viewed both as put upon by society, and in recognizing that reality felt no racism at all, but commonality.

You should be so noble.

No he didn't. He claimed that the blacks he knew seemed happy.

You wanted to see what he didn't want to see. I get it. Did you ever see a black person NOT mistreated?

You answer belies your position, and ruins it.

 

He grew up in the 60's...I don't think that was wide spread then.

 

I could give a sh!t if you're offended. You have chosen to disbelieve a man's personal recollections and anecdotes, when there is no reason to disbelieve him at all, and every reason to accept the possibility that his small world showed him happiness.

You extrapolate into the realm of pure stupidity, which is why many of us find your posts - and your ideology, in fact, very unstable and unpredictable.

 

Birmingham Alabama.

 

LOL. There were never "simpler times" and certainly not ones where things were unpolluted by entitelment, grudes, and poltical correctness. All these things existed, they just weren't aimed at what they are today. In fact, these things were much more apparent in the past. Modern forms of government have foudn subtler wayrs of dealing with these things. The past, contrary to what seems to be popular belief, is actually always worse than the general present.

 

I am sorry that he and you seem ignorant of the history. I am not. Offending me does not serve your purpose. I am a staunch conservative... and your revisionist history makes you not my ally. Your ignorance of your decision is no longer an excuse. We are now opposed... and I happen to be right... in every true sense of the word.

You flock to your democrat friends who opposed repeal of Jim Crow. At least we all know where you stand.

 

As I said, it was not wide spread.

 

While you are a collectivist, it does not mean that different people didn't experience different things. This was his anecdote alone.

I grew up in the inner city of Milwaukee. While I knew racism existed, I didn't experience it. I went to an inner city high school where I was the minority, and lived on a block where I was the only white person. Every friend I had was black, and the people I knew who weren't didn't see color at all.

You want to call me a liar as well?