Our Hyposcrisy Never Ceases

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  1. johnmayo

    johnmayo New Member Past Donor

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    No, we sent them F14s and the like that blasted them out of the sky. I mean who arms all the nastiest people on earth? You know, how did the Syrians get them in the war they lost to the Israelis? Or who sold the Lebanese those crappy planes they had to shoot down?

    Russia, no one wants the poverty you are selling. Go back to worrying about your corruption and dying nation before you find out France has bought you out, even a small country like that can afford to. Your economics are really that awful.
     
  2. dixon76710

    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    What an absurd claim. weve not fired a single shot inside Syria. The Syrians fighting against each other is destroying the country
     
  3. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The Russian fleet is not there because of Italy or Nato, it is there because of its oil interests. The fleet is welcomed by Greece whose territorial waters and islands are being threatened by Turkey. Turkey is searching for oil and gas in territorial waters which does not belong to it.

    With the political problems Erdogan has, he might look for an external action in order to distract the Turkish people from the huge corruption scandal plaguing him and his party, especially before the upcoming elections. Turkey's flights over the islands have increased manifold, even as they signed an agreement to increase confidence measures between them. But then again this is Turkey, and they are the advocates of what belongs to them and what doesn't, not any stupid law or treaty.

    What I am fearful is they might take advantage of Russia's distraction with the games at Sochi, and do something drastic, after all Turkey is an opportunist nation, that is why Erdogan immediately turned against his friend Assad when the West did.
     
  4. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Russia's empire was the one built by Katherine the Great, and that was before Russia was occupied and overtaken by the foreign Bolsheviks...who by the way were German Jews from Poland and who were sent in by the German Kaisar Wilhelm II. Before the Bolshevik takeover, Russia had the largest growing economy in the world, and Tsar Nicholas II was so peace loving that he was the one that suggested the establishment of a court at the Hague, which was a precursor of the U. N.

    As for the Soviet Union, it was not Russia it was exactly what the name says, a union of Soviet States. You can't call it Russia since the USSR was an international system and that would be the antithesis of nations such as Russia
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  5. johnmayo

    johnmayo New Member Past Donor

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    Or that the Turks sink the russians and send them packing back home. Turkey is also superior to Russia in every way.

    What would Greeks do with oil? Hire someone to drill it for them?
     
  6. sharik

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    the USA does.

    it is the US that sells poverty and chaos.
     
  7. johnmayo

    johnmayo New Member Past Donor

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    Is every single country in Europe spared the curtain richer then any of the ones that were behind it?
     
  8. sharik

    sharik Banned

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    the West did not give East Europe a chance, took away everything she had as soon as the Soviets left.
     
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    If he did, it was only because Netanyahu wanted him to.
     
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    The United States was heavily complicit in the engineering of sectarian violence within Syria that led to civil war within the country. In May 2011, Michel Chossudovsky, Professor of Economics at the University of Ottawa, commented on the first outbreaks of violence in Syria:

    ‘What is clear from these initial reports is that many of the demonstrators were not demonstrators but terrorists involved in premeditated acts of killing and arson. The title of [an] Israeli news report summarizes what happened: ‘Syria: Seven Police Killed, Buildings Torched in Protests.’

    The initial conflict, Chossudovsky noted, ‘had all the appearances of a staged event involving, in all likelihood, covert support to Islamic terrorists by Mossad and/or Western intelligence. Government sources point to the role of radical Salafist groups (supported by Israel). Other reports have pointed to the role of Saudi Arabia in financing the protest movement.’

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/syria-...for-a-us-nato-humanitarian-intervention/24591

    Commenting on the initial outbreak of violence in May, 2011, Jeremy Salt, associate professor in Middle Eastern History and Politics at Bilkent University, Ankara, wrote:

    ‘The armed groups are well armed and well organised. Large shipments of weapons have been smuggled into Syria from Lebanon and Turkey. They include pump action shotguns, machine guns, Kalashnikovs, RPG launchers, Israeli-made hand grenades and numerous other explosives. It is not clear who is providing these weapons but someone is, and someone is paying for them.’

    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article29321.htm

    Chossudovsky again:

    ‘The existence of an armed insurrection is not mentioned by the Western media. If it were to be acknowledged and analysed, our understanding of unfolding events would be entirely different. What is mentioned profusely is that the armed forces and the police are involved in the indiscriminate killing of protesters.’

    He added some background:

    ‘Since the Soviet-Afghan war, Western intelligence agencies as well as Israel's Mossad have consistently used various Islamic terrorist organizations as "intelligence assets". Both Washington and its indefectible British ally have provided covert support to "Islamic terrorists" in Afghanistan, Bosnia, Kosovo and Libya, etc. as a means to triggering ethnic strife, sectarian violence and political instability… The ultimate objective of the Syria protest movement, through media lies and fabrications, is to create divisions within Syrian society as well as justify an eventual "humanitarian intervention".

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/syria-...for-a-us-nato-humanitarian-intervention/24591

    As Chossudovsky observed, Syria is on the US list of ‘rogue states.’

    In 2004, in an interview with Democracy Now!, former Nato chief General Wesley Clark recalled a conversation with a Pentagon general in 2001, a few weeks after the September 11 attacks:

    ‘He reached over on his desk. He picked up a piece of paper. And he said, “I just got this down from upstairs” — meaning the Secretary of Defense’s office — “today.” And he said, “This is a memo that describes how we’re going to take out seven countries in five years, starting with Iraq, and then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and, finishing off, Iran.”’

    http://www.democracynow.org/2007/3/2/gen_wesley_clark_weighs_presidential_bid
     
  11. xAWACr

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    Osama-bin-Laden-007.jpg

    Lets see, what's that in the background? Why, I do believe it's an AKS-74U!!! Now how do you suppose it got there?

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    And what's this? Why, it's ANOTHER AKS-74U!!! What the Hell? Do you Russians give these things away in boxes of cereal?

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    Not that you lot left much.
     
  12. sharik

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    why, the CIA was arming those Islam terror thugs.

    the Soviets gave East Europe a lot: payment free education and healthcare and guaranteed employment and high tech infrastructure.
     
  13. dixon76710

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    And tells us what the firsts protest in Syria had the "appearances" of. He is speculating on the way things appear in Syria, to him sitting in Canada.
     
  14. Ivan88

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    Actually, the British don't hate Russia, nor are they afraid of them. What really happened is the result of the Rothschild planned American Revolution.
    Then they promised the British to get back America, if Britain would let the East India Company pretty much run things.
    So, now that America and Britain are firmly under the control of the successors to the East India Company, we do things to suit the interests of our masters. In return they throw out some crumbs and we, like a flock of seaguls, swarm around those scraps srambling for what we can get.

    This was all proper, because, we refused to obey "nature's God", our real Master, who Loves what we should be; So He gave us to other masters who hate us.
    Moses and Daniel warned us: "Those who hate you shall rule over you." "the Most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever He will, and setteth up over it the basest of men." Leviticus 26:17, Daniel 4:17
     
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    Maybe dixon should see a bit further than those who have a ring in his nose want him to see.

    The USA had assassins in Syria killing both police and demonstrators. We did very similar things in Yugoslavia.

    I can't see how any sane, honest minded person can believe anything from those who routinely lie to justify their vicious lusts to hurt, kill and destroy the lives and loves of peaceful people.
    Our Wars on Britain, Canada, Mexico, our Southern Brothers, Indians, Cuba, Philippines, China, Haite, Germany, Russia, Japan, Korea, Katanga, Dominican Republic, Vietnam, Panama, Afganistan, Somalia, Iraq, Libya and Syria -----ALL OF THEM BASED ON & JUSTIFIED BY LIES.

    For a great nation like Christian Israel America to continually love lies and rush off to one war of aggression after another for 200 years, is certain to cause God's Judgment upon us, as He has been doing all along.
    It certainly shows that we do not love our neighbor, nor the God of America, "nature's God".
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    ???? I can see what is written in the article. Obviously you cant.

    Anything other than the authors opinion of "appearances" in Syria, from Canada to support that belief?
     
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    Well, it seems highly probable especially given the subsequent unfolding of events.
     
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    With Russian weapons. So, either you're lying and it is, in fact, Russia that is supporting them, or you're too inept at controlling your own arms industry to prevent a foreign intelligence service from making you look like supporters of international terrorism. Either possibility seems plausible to me.
     
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    And the Gulag....?:hiding:
     
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    See Cuba and various Communist/Socialist movements in South America.
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You haven't been keeping up with the news, now have you? Well a truck supposedly carrying food and things into Syria from Turkey to help out the Turkomans, was stopped at the border and it was packed with arms. Well the police were reprimanded for interfering with Turkish 'intelligence' and the Turkomans in Syria say they receive no aid. Hmmm! Isn't Turkey in Nato? :confuse:
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why would Russia support the Saudi and Chechnyan terrorists? Wouldn't they be going against their own self interests...which as we all know is the Assad government? :confuse:
     
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    I wouldn't think the Russian government is directly supporting those 2 particular groups, but, like the American government, they are known for facilitating the proliferation of small arms via individual arms dealers.

    Sometimes, this ends up handing weapons to groups you fight later.
     
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    So? Were they US-made weapons?

    So? Do you think being in NATO gives the US, or NATO itself, complete knowledge and control over everything the Turkish government does?
     
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    Which is why its geopolitical folly. It's like trying to be an aggressor nation but at the same time, "covering it up". It costs us a lot more IMO than a frontal invasion.

    If we, as an Empire seek to control geopolitical plains of importance, let us not portray some kind of false sense of justice. It's much more humane in fact, to launch a successful war. Historic Western/European Empires that conquered territories have led to our modern day technologies.

    Our geopolitical folly created the Taliban/Al-Qaeda. This folly comes from our desire as citizens to be a neutral nation. If so, then we should also end our globalism aspirations.

    We cannot be neutral, while agreeing to a "global" format.
     

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