Breaking news - Arab's greatest fear "Sharon" is dead.

But you are ,

You're living on the mercy of US taxpayers . Without US support your Zionist state , would not have been so arrogant and would have respected Palestinians legitimate rights- the conflict would have been solved , Middle Eastern Jews would have been living alongside their Arab cousins as they lived for many centuries before the influx of Europe's AshkeNazi ZioNazs Jews who came with a predetermined plan to displace/dispossess the indigenous non-Jewish Palestinians.

It was Zionist Jews who was the first to carry out terror tactics against a people /mainly villages , who was then largely defenceless


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You are the age of my youngest child.. Try to remember that I was lying on the floor listen to BBC, Voice of America and radio Cairo from the early 1950s. I know about the many small massacres in Lebanon.... that NEVER made the western press.

 

WRONG!!!!

the terrorism was started in 1921, when racist Arabs rioted against and murdered scores of Jews in Palestine. This was repeated in 1929, when hundreds of Jews were murdered by racist, blood-thirsty Arabs.

 

The Israeli withdrawal from Lebanon and the Sinai was a result of defensive actions by Hezbollah and the Egyptian army respectively.

While Israel withdrew from Gaza, the overall number of settlements continued to increase.

If Israel had continued to occupy Gaza with ''boots on the ground'' for the sake of a few thousand settlers, they wouldn't be able to terrorise the civilians who live there with warplanes and artillery etc. So it makes sense, from Israel's point of view, that after running Gaza into the ground, the best option would be to turn it into an open-air prison and use the civilians who live there for live target practice.

 

Listen I am not sure when you developed your attitude that you can talk down to or patronize Israelis but I will tell you this. Read back your posts. Where do you get off talking to anyone the way you do..Palestinian, Israeli, anyone? Would you lecture a black man like that? Would you lecture a gay person like that? Would you lecture a woman like that?

Where do you think you get your superiority complex from?

Where do you think this attitude comes from? You think it just came from nowhere? There is a reason you talk down to Israelis. Its an ancient entrenched bigoted belief. Are you willing to admit you have it? Or will you respond saying who you-a bigot? You. Mr. I will tell you what your place is in life, and you will accept that.

Yassuh Massuh Trout. Az happy to work on yoh farm. Yassuh.

Imagine if I talked to a black man presuming to tell him what is good for him in terms of freedom and equality and where his place is in life.

Imagine if I presume to tell a gay person they must accept there place in life where I tell them is appropriate.


This notion you are in the position to tell anyone what is good for themand what they should be grateful for, what they should he happy with is what-let's call it what it is, blatant bigotry-ancient entrenched anti-Semitism that makes you believe you can talk down to an infidel Jew and tell him what his place is.

No no no. You Jews can't sit over there. You will sit over there where I tell you and you will be grateful.

Guess what Trout. This Jew will sit where ever he bloody well feels like it-the front, the middle or the back of the friggin bus.

More importantly I learned something Trout a long time ago. I have no desire to be a member of a club you are a member of. That is why I won't join your gold club (UN) or have anything else to do with you. You drip of insincere bigotry coloured in the presumption of superiority in your words.

I commend Gilos for ignoring your taunts and tone.

Take that Bwana act with you and don't wait to shut the door.

The Pith helmet, warm gin and Bible, better get going before this heathen Jew throws them at your head.

Now you see Gilos, I do appreciate your restraint...me I visualize......like so....

 

lololololololol

 

But you were talking about greater Israel as goal, Hizbi managed to kill one soldier in about 2-3 weeks in Lebanon, Gaza was even much less than that, you think that if greater Israel is a national objective it would be enough to withdraw ?

If it makes you feel better, Arabs defeated Israel, so why bring up that greater Israel nonsense if we were already defeated ?

 

The first to organize to stop the influx of European Zionists were Arab Christians circa 1920..

The thing in Gaza was positively stupid.. There were some 7,000 Settlers living in Gaza and being protected by 20,000 IDF..

Israeli parents thought it was stupid.. and raised cain. I was in KSA when the withdrawal took place.. .. in an audience with the king... The US ambassador was pacing the floor in the anti-room.

 

Tactical public relation stunts.

 

the withdrawal from the entire Sinai and southern Lebanon, were stunts?

huh..

 

Not if its a national objective as you suggest it is, if we are willing to release 2000 terrorists for one soldier, we put in much higher regard soldiers that died in the wars, Israel will not carelsly occupy and withdarw from land.

 

What do Israel's tactical public-relation stunts and periodic defeats have to do with their wider territorial objectives?

 

Too true. This is just a forum remember, no orders given or taken here. Some ppl get above their station, begin to think we are living in a UN general assembly lol.

 

Long-term territorial objectives are dependent upon short to medium-term strategies.

 

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This is not an appropriate response at the Hague. Please take these types of remarks to public forums thank you.

 

Some were defeats, but the "withdrawal" from Gaza, for example, was a clear tactical exercise.

 

Yep, settlements increased which is proof that from their perspective, their expansionist objectives are on course. As you say, Gaza is run like an open prison. It's akin to prisoners' being locked up after having the jailer's depart the location with the keys to the prison cells in their pockets.

 

Israeli actions in palestine look like chiecken fee compared to what happens down the road in Khartoum. The Arab muslims there are actually really responsible for some terrible war crimes in darfur. Some of these darfurians have been heading to Israel for refuge. We should thank Israelis for that AND for its support in any ongoing activities that diffuse Khartoums ability to carry on an offensive against the Nubians. It is the Arab muslims of Egypt who have been trying to destroy and literally wipe Nubian culture from the map. The building of the Aswan damn ithink, displaced thousands and flooded ancient Nubian temples and buildings. They had to literally up and move Rameses Nubian statues because of deliberate flooding of the nile valley. This Israel issue is but a small part of the over all problem in the Nile Valley.

Maybe some of our anti Israel crowd here would do themselves a favour by LEARNING ABOUT AFRIKAN CULTURE AND HISTORY before they begin to condemn the Israelis.

 

Blame the Egyptians , nobody else.
Egyptians hate Palestinians.

 

they hate Jews more.

 

The Arabs did not ''defeat Israel.'' Israel was not even invaded. Military action by the Egyptian army and Hezbollah was successful enough against the Israeli forces that were occupying their respective countries, for Israel to rethink it's policies in those instances.

While Israel talks about a ''two state solution,'' it continues to encroach on Palestinian land. Israel also announced annexation of the Golan Heights and east Jerusalem in the 1980s (although on both occasions the UNSC passed resolutions declaring that Israel's claims were ''null and void'')

It seems incredulous to believe that Israel does not have a policy of expansion, when it's actions and deeds demonstrate otherwise.

 

There are things which rate more respect than "international law." You can't have it both ways. Israel is a legal state. So why do so many justify the Islamist attempts to destroy Israel? Between 1948 and 1967, how many times was Israel attacked with the intention of eliminating it entirely? Common sense dictates that eventually you give up and choose to keep what you won in spite of all the nay sayers.

 

The Arabs know all too well that Israel's ideology, is that the lives of Jews are more important than the lives of gentiles.

Even though Israel killed many times the number of Hezbollah fighters than Hezbollah killed Israeli troops; Hezbollah still considered it a victory for them, because their actions resulted in the Israeli withdrawal from Lebanon.

 

Israel isn't even universally recognised as a legitimate State. It is kept afloat by North American taxpayers- whether they like it or not. You should worry. More and more of them are objecting.

 

I don't see how Sharon being dead affects Palestine one way or the other he had no political power at the time of his death anyhow.