Please cite your best evidence of "no-planes"

So, the identity of a few are in doubt by the same people that identified them? Wow, what a huge conspiracy!

 

You finally admit that you don't know. So why do you pretend you do?
It seems to me you're not in a position to ridicule.

There are many things that ARE KNOWN. Those are the incriminating pieces of evidence that youskys ignore.
So what else do you do? You look for typos, grammar errors, or anything you can find to attack the person person rather than address the issues.

 

Incriminating evidence is not the same thing as something that is known. Truthers make stuff up then make it fit the situation then call it incriminating evidence and instead of using the available evidence and eye witness accounts, make up things up and make obviously ridiculous statements.

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It doesn't need to be true, it just has to fit their made up scenario close enough to call it "evidence".

 

Incriminating evidence falls under the category of circumstantial evidence. Statistical inferences can be made from a collection of such evidence. People intuitively do it all the time.

Are you telling me that ALL such evidence as has been presented is "made up"? Or are you saying that you lack the ability to tell the difference between that which has been "made up" and that which is documented, verifiable, or is universally agreed upon?

You have no room to speak of using available evidence and EYE WITNESS testimony because you consistently deny all of it which goes against your premise, namely that only Arabs and Muslim terrorists are capable of conspiring or committing murder.

I submit that what you are trying to convince us of flies in the face of common sense as well as not being able to stand up under close scrutiny.

Disinformation agents are very capable of conjuring up preposterous tales which are specifically tailored to discredit the entire community of folks who do not believe the Kosher account of everything.

Don't talk to me about trying to force fit evidence when that is exactly what youskys are doing at this very moment with respect to the mistaken identity of the hijackers.

It makes no difference whether those mistakes were deliberate or unintentional or whether the identities were borrowed or manufactured. The fact remains that the FBI report was IN ERROR, further widening the possibility that they were in ERROR on other matters.
You and your cohorts have already asserted that the initial FBI report of bombs being planted in the basement of the towers was false.
You also maintain that the breach of US airspace and the lapse in intelligence which led to the attacks was due to gross incompetence.

So how can you then stand there and swear upon the NIST Bible as though it was the Rock of Gibraltar over an issue which you just admitted that you can not attest to?

The answer is that you can't and still be logically consistent. The only way you can defend the Kosher NIST account is by being disingenuous, misleading, and dodging the evidence.

Time and again when you are confronted with convincing evidence you dismiss it with some lame excuse. This might work if there were only one or two such instances to deal with. But there are just too many to be reasonably be explained away as coincidental.

You know this. But you are depending on the powers that be to maintain the present establishment, to wit, that you don't believe that anyone can or will do anything about it even if they produce incontrovertible proof.


Enough circumstantial evidence can accumulate to the point where a conviction can be made which puts it statistically beyond a reasonable doubt. Such is the case for controlled demolitions. And one doesn't have to be able to crunch bunch of numbers in order to arrive at that conclusion. They merely need to look at what IS KNOWN for long enough to allow it to sink in.

[video=youtube;5fm0_7jVqcE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fm0_7jVqcE[/video]

 

lots of plane parts and tons of human DNA and body parts were found at the Pentagon.

along with the black box.

 

Sure. There were people working in those offices.

The black boxes at the WTC were officially denied to have been found. Eye witness testimony contradicts this story.

There were also tiny bits of human remains found on the top of the Deutsche Bank building which could not have came to rest there had they not been hurled explosively from the interior of the collapsing towers. Otherwise they would have remained within the debris and been found buried beneath it.

When an earthquake collapses a building, the human remains do not go flying out hundreds of yards from within it.

http://georgewashington.blogspot.com/2006/12/are-people-who-question-911-credible-or.html

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[video=youtube;KhAEjSQghj8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhAEjSQghj8[/video]

 

oh, so its impossible for the human remains to have been thrown from the planes after they crashed into the towers?

lol!!!!!!

 

Source of this fantasy?

 

debunkers throw out 95% of known facts then pretend their presumptions are facts.

How many times have we heard them come out here and claim facts are what they saw on tv. ridiculous.

 

Show me one peer reviewed paper by any truther.

 

And NOT the bentham 'pay per review'

 

Absolutely not...something much more....."official".

 

Why would they lie about not finding the black boxes in WTC when they found the one in the Pentagon?

BTW, and earthquake didn't hit the buildings. People, aircraft parts, and building parts were found far away. More apples and oranges.

N.Y. police: Landing gear part found, is tied to 9/11

Or is that also not evidence because you believe in fairy tales?

 

show me one truther receiving government funding to do peer reviews

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its not evidence because it does not meet the rigors of due process.

 

Ah, so you think the only peer reviewed papers come from government? LOL

First of all, you would have to have a court case to even apply due process. Your understanding of science and law is appalling.

BTW, no truther fantasy meets the rigors of due process.

So there, you have just hoisted yourself on your own petard.
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You see a vanity peer review more officious?

 

no not at all.

Only organizations sucking off the public trough have the funding to do peer reviews.

so you think due process isnt required. why am I not shocked.

 

Good lord, is there no end to your ignorance. Does it extend to all matters?

 

No one cares what brand toilet paper someone uses so not "ALL" matters.

only matters of evidence and courts n stuff.

dabunkers however think it applies to NO matters.

Does that mean we can expect you to show us the extents of your intelligence? Is that what you are eluding to?

 

Maybe you will clue us in to what court case is pending for whatever it is you are talking about.

I only present the visual, audible, and eyewitness evidence, you show grainy gifs and wacko theories with no proof that prove nothing other than your gullibility.

 

No. It's quite possible. Depending how far they are hurled, the explosive force which acted upon them would have to over come the resistance of wind and air.
Think of the difference between tossing a paper wad and a tennis ball. I would give you odds that a person could throw a tennis ball further than a paper wad.

Now, where were the humans when the building collapsed?

(Since you refuse to answer any questions I pose to you, I will answer them for you.)

ans. In the building.

What happens when the collapsing floors above them fall and/or the floor gives way beneath their feet?


ans. They move DOWNWARDS...........UNLESS............some force strikes them in such a manner as to propel them in a horizontal direction, as was seen earlier in the video posted which showed a human being violently ejected from a window.

The upshot is, that neither humans nor any other bodies, in pieces or otherwise, will move in a horizontal direction unless some force acts upon them in that direction.

The distance which those bodies will travel will be in direct proportion to the force exerted upon them minus whatever deductions must be made in order to account for wind resistance and/or other intervening bodies.

So in order for a body to be "blown to smithereens", which was what these pieces consisted of, something must "BLOW THEM TO SMITHEREENS".
After this has occurred there must be no intervening objects to stop their horizontal trajectory.

What could possibly do this?

ans. The walls dummy.

So if the walls are merely falling , as the bodies surely should be in a "Collapse only" scenario, then the bodies will certainly not be ejected beyond the distance of those walls until the walls have been removed. In which case those parts which remain should not travel beyond the distance which the walls themselves have been propelled.

In other words, the crushing action of falling ceilings and floors would merely crush the bodies, NOT disassemble them into hundreds of tiny pieces.

Even those bodies which belonged to those souls which jumped from the windows did not disassemble to the extent of those pieces found upon the roof of the Deutsche building although they struck the pavement with a much more violent force than that which a falling ceiling would produce.

We are considering a force that would be capable of doing so while simultaneously giving them the kinetic energy to travel hundreds of yards against wind resistance.

Even a body being ground to hamburger by a building which was merely falling on them would not propelled in a lateral direction to that extent.



Small body parts may sometimes be found scattered around the site of car wrecks. But those are easily explained by the forward momentum of speeding automobiles.

Those parts found on the Deutsche building can not be attributed to the passengers aboard the crashed planes.

Why?

ans.
Because the forward momentum of the planes at the point of impact was all in the direction of the building. Those small pieces would be propelled in the direction of the interior of the still standing portion of the towers.

WTC 2 was struck on the southwest face. That would put the direction of the aircraft in the Northeast direction.

WTC 1 was still standing at the time of it's collapse. It stood in an intervening position between the Deutsche bldg and WTC 2.

Therefore those parts could not have originated in the flight 175, the plane which crashed into WTC 2.

Flight 11, which crashed into WTC 1 on it's Northwest face. That would put it's momentum in the Southeast direction which is exactly OPPOSITE the direction which body parts would have to fly in order to land on top of the Deutsche bldg.

This means that those parts would had to have been propelled BACKWARDS away from the direction of the crash with not only enough force to over come wind resistance, but also the forward momentum on the craft which YOUSKIES say was traveling upwards of 500 mph.

http://911review.org/Wget/www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/02/25/attack/main501989.shtml

What are the chances that those pieces on the Deutche building came from flight 11?

Slim.

Anything else wouldn't make sense............UNLESS those pieces were hurled violently in a horizontal direction under the cover of smoke right along with all the debris.

The only debris that should be traveling in that direction with enough force to make it that far would be the walls and columns themselves as they were thrust aside, IF one accepts the "inevitable" collapse by Verinage principles which youskys advocate, which I do not.

 

In case you missed it, a couple of planes crashed into the buildings with explosive force and ejected much out the other side for blocks. BTW, Verniage is a demolition technique and it is the truthers that are pushing that.

 

so you still have not been able to produce a better quality video than the one I posted so after losing the battle you now want to move the goal posts to a "pending court case"

we read you loud and clear houston!

 

nope verinage was leftys gig.

but there wasnt any hole for anything to eject out of!

How much force is "explosive force"?