Eating cheeseburgers from Mcdonalds is also very unhealthy.... leads to obesity which leads to diabetes , heart attacks, etc.... Should we ban Mcdonalds and other unhealthy food places?
No, the stats in this thread disagree. 53% of all cases come from a super small segment. Thats unhealthy, and certainly not harmless or ok. It should be a clue to those who participate that this simply isn't a good idea.
so why isn't that happening? note the standard "because we're not allowed to be open about it" is old and busted since you have presidents commending gays for their bravery. Gay is accepted nowadays.... why still the high rate of new infections.
Nope, but at the same time lets not hold them up next to a Healthy diet and pretend it's the same thing. Some things ARE unhealhty choices, and the info should be out there for people. Unfortunately somethings get glossed over because of agenda...and it's not the cheeseburgers.
noone is suggesting banning anal sex.... it's an unenforceable law..... how about educating yourself honestly about the cause and develop safer practices and not calling anyone who suggests it a homophobe and sticking your head in the sand to pretend the problem doesn't exist
I am a person who thinks America is about freedom and liberty. Fast food and unhealthy diets lead to more deaths than aids in our country. If the concern is really about saving people from themselves, wouldnt we go after something that has a far greater impact? - - - Updated - - - This is the quote I addressed.... and I dont recall ever calling someone a homophobe... don't know what that rant was about. Are we not validating obesity by allowing Mcdonalds and other fast food places to operate ? We cant ban people from making cheeseburgers at home, but we can develop safer practices....
Don't know where you get your information from...but as a gay male myself...anal sex isn't for everyone and there are a lot of gay males who don't enjoy or participate in it. Secondly anal sex is only a problem if you are running around screwing anything that moves or has a pulse. Normal people meet someone and start a relationship and if they are smart and sane get tested before they move onto sexual relations with the other person. Does everyone do that? No, and neither do heterosexuals. So to try to say that this is a gay only problem is ridiculous. Now lets look at the numbers. 295 cases of gays contracting HIV. Yeah that 53% of the new HIV cases. 295 out of how many homosexuals? Rough estimate is about 5% of the population is gay. 5% of the american population of we'll say rounded to 300 million....so 295 cases out of about 15 million people. We can round that down to ten for fuzzy maths sake. So...295 cases of HIV...out of ten million gays. Put it in perspective and you know what you get? Some people using HIV as a fear mongering tactic to paint gays as horrible disease spreading monsters.
Gay relationships rely on whatever sex activity the gay couple prefers. Hell there are straight relationships that rely on anal sex. - - - Updated - - - When you put it that way it really is such a see-through argument isn't it?
Yes, promiscuous unprotected sex is an unhealthy lifestyle choice. Homosexuals and heterosexuals are both guilty of it. Only personal choice and education on the risk can, hopefully, make a person change those habits before its to late.
it's heading off the opposition at the pass. This is simply standard operating procedure in threads that say gays are most at risk.... but we can develop better ways of cooking them (aka foreman grills) suggest alternatives (turkey burgers). Educating burger-sexuals on the risks of eating such a high fat diet. plus, I can't infect you with obesity by cross contamination like people who practice unsafe sex
No ones calling anyone a homophobe. The statistics are what they are and people need to take personal responsibility for their poor choices in having unprotected sex.
Because some people stupid? They run around having promiscuous unprotected sex. Those are their choices and they have to deal with the consequences. A lot of people don't get tested until its to late or don't make their partners get tested. Why do STD's spread? Because people make bad choices. Its really that simple. Same reason so many unwanted pregnancies occur.
53%, 295 cases of HIV out of an estimate 5% of the population...which works out to be between 10-15 million gay people in the US alone. All falls on people to be responsible and get tested before starting a sexual relationship. Some don't and take the risk and pay the price.
AIDS is, and always has been, mostly a "gay disease". Gays and infecteds who share needles, are the main reason this thing spreads like it does. I'm not at all surprised by the numbers.... assuming they aren't underestimated.
as you've seen in the Gallup poll which I've posted many many many times that your number is too high. 96.4% of all adults engage in straight heterosexual sex. The remaining 3.6% are for all other deviant sexual behaviors be it animals, inanimate objects, cross dressing and homosexuality. Then, you need to separate out the homosexual men because those are the ones inserting penis into male anus. Once you do that, the 53% figure is very very disturbing. So, do we take the leftist position and not want to offend or do we get into that small groups faces and say wake the F up. As someone who is pro life, it does not mean that I only wish to save the lives of babies. But, as a leftist, I guess that it also makes you consistent in having a "who cares" attitude when it comes to saving lives. If you aren't for saving babies from murder then why would you be for saving homosexuals from a dangerous lifestyle and death.
So you claim the link isn't legit.. then when it's shoved in your face that it is, as everyone else knew... you then argue technicalities. ffs, show me a stat that doesn't involve the word "estimated". When you're done "LMAO'ing" that is. zzz....
Studies have linked smoking, even second hand smoke, to certain types of cancer and still people will smoke nevertheless. But the reason why smoking has gone down is becasue of the increase sin taxes and becasue of the declining peer pressure that smoking is cool, sexy, etc. I am not trying to compare homosexuality to smoking, but that it appears in this report that homoexuals are not taking the necessary precautions to prevent the disease as much as other groups have done.
You're reaching here quite a bit....making some pretty broad unsupported assumptions about my political leanings and my stand on more than a few issues. And for the record...where the hell did abortion come from in this thread? Just curiosity. Now on point here. I have no problem reporting this information, making it known, and plastering it all over the place. Because maybe it will save a life. And people do need to be aware of it. They need to wake up and stop being promiscuous, get tested, make their partners get tested, and use protection. I am a proponent of being a responsible adult and stopping the spread of HIV/AIDS. Now, that's not what I see happening here. What I do see is a bunch of staunchly anti-gay posters throwing these numbers around in an attempt to condemn gays, fear monger, and attempt to suggest that gays are responsible for HIV/AIDS in general. There is no push for education and prevention here, there is only fear mongering against gays going on. That is were your attempts at claiming the moral high ground falls through into nothingness.
Bullhockey. Aids is a human disease whether you are gay or straight. YOu have the same risk, but for different reasons. The key is how to protect yourself.
Yes, this is just a fact!! And we shouldn't allow facts to upset us and we shouldn't ignore the facts. Like the FACT that homophobes, bigots, and social conservatives have lower IQs. http://seriousfacts.com/racism-homophobia-linked-lower-iq/ I know this fact makes people uncomfortable. I know we can now expect right wing denial, but we are just talking facts here!! PS. Facts are meaningless without context. What does this fact mean? What is the point of this thread? Just a public service announcement to let us all know this incredibly important fact? Absolute nonsense!!
1. I dont call people homophobes for having a different opinion. They are free do disagree with me. I think that calling people names shuts down good discussion. 2. And gays , with proper condom and drug testing, can also develop better methods of safe sex. 3. You impact me when you are on medicare because you drive up cost of treatment and medical procedures. Also, you impact your children by teaching them a poor diet. Unless a gay person is committing rape, they are both agreeing to the sex act and know the dangers. 2.
The concern , IMO, is less about the activity....as others mentioned it's unenforcable....and more about the message being conveyed. 53% is a staggering number to hear, but this gets glossed over today by the politics trying to pretend this is a healthy choice and raised to the same level as nomal Male/female relationships. Obviously the stats say theres a health issue here....but it's being glossed over with political agenda. Thats the problem. no we are not. We allow them to operate, but they have been forced to announce the unhealthy aspects of their menus with things like caloric documentaion, encouraged to offer healthier choices loike apple slices and milk...and of curse have been the target of places like CA. because they pack toys in their meals, and of course there is no shortage of outlets getting the "unhealthy" message to the people. Thats the difference...the contrasting messages being sent between 2 unhealthy choices.
But 53% to the 47%, combined with the percentages of people highlight the severity of the problem in one segment over the other.
Encourage stable, long term relationships prior to having sex, including establishing full legal recognition of homosexual marriage. Fight against the discrimination, cultural and institutional, that has a tendency to push them away from those public relationships and towards secretive assignations. Ensure younger homosexuals have welcoming sources of support and advice.
