Hong Kong- 53% of all HIV cases due to homosexual sex

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  1. texmaster

    texmaster Banned

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    So nothing changed. Got it.

    If you are going to claim something changes in the facts then quote the specific fact that supports your claim so it can be addressed.
     
  2. JavisBeason

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    agenda

    agenda

    agenda

    brainwash kids at a young age, even if the parents don't agree with it.... i mean,


    agenda
     
  3. frodly

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    And the stats say homophobes and bigots have lower IQs. But that is being glossed over with a political agenda!! Thats the problem.

    http://seriousfacts.com/racism-homophobia-linked-lower-iq/
     
  4. RichT2705

    RichT2705 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    LOL.....sure. If it makes you feel better, then go ahead and believe that. Srs fax!.com .
     
  5. JavisBeason

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    maybe this was in another thread I replied to.... can't remember... (must be my low IQ, huh)


    but asking liberal professors and conservative highschool dropouts what they think about any issue yields very different results than if you poll conservative professors and liberal highschool dropouts.
     
  6. frodly

    frodly Well-Known Member

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    See there you go denying the facts because of a political agenda!! I thought you opposed that?
     
  7. HonestJoe

    HonestJoe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You're free to believe that. I don't see you offering any alternative answers to the question though.
     
  8. RichT2705

    RichT2705 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I dont recognize your claims from "srsfax.com" as being actual "facts" as you are trying to claim. Also my very high IQ and education up here in the Northeast keep me confident in the fact that your claim is garbage.
     
  9. frodly

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    Denying the facts again. Such shame. Seems like hypocrisy if you ask me...

    Maybe these will be better.

    http://www.livescience.com/18132-intelligence-social-conservatism-racism.html

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/27/intelligence-study-links-prejudice_n_1237796.html

    http://news.yahoo.com/low-iq-conservative-beliefs-linked-prejudice-180403506.html

    Now will you stop denying the facts?
     
  10. RichT2705

    RichT2705 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    For your benefit I will let you in on a secret. "Facts" never have to be coupled with words like "may", "might" , "suggests" or "possibly"....those are tools of the field of speculation, and your links are all using them.

    No concrete facts to be found in them. Interesting speculation of course, but I'm not going to sweat it as it has 0 bearing on me.
     
  11. Oldyoungin

    Oldyoungin Well-Known Member

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    I would say we have spent a lot on aids awareness ... How much more can we really do ?
     
  12. RichT2705

    RichT2705 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What we can do is stop having this lifestyle promoted everywhere we turn. Doesnt cost anything.
     
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    yep, 47% from heterosexual sex.. got it.. HIV doesn't discriminate


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  14. Oldyoungin

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    Allowing someone to have the freedom of a life style is not a promotion . Plenty of life styles that others don't enjoy are perfectly legal . Some men cheat on their wife ... By allowing cheating and not making it illegal , are we promoting cheating ?
     
  15. RichT2705

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    You're a bit off with that one. A cheating husband is not being promoted simply because we arent trying to outlaw it. Some people are going to cheat, some will stay faithful. Much like with Anal Sex...it isnt something anyone has the will or resources to enforce. When I start hearing things about allowing "cheaters" to wed their extra marital others, then I'll worry about it.
    Noone is trying to make cheating sound healthy, and acceptable...so it doesnt really fit.


    And as to this part:
    we arent really talking about them having the freedom of a lifestyle. Noone is saying Gay people cannot live together, play together...be gay etc etc.....the validation comes when we try and put this on the same level as a traditional Marriage.
     
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    Well does gay sex between two non HIV positive men remain unhealthy ? I support gay marriage simply because I support freedom , I have no gay agenda either way .
     
  17. RichT2705

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    I think it does. The colon was not built for that kind of thing and is very prone to damage.

    myself I dont have an agenda. I dont care what people do, and I dont care if everyone is gay....I just think we have stepped a bit overboard on it in regards to Marriage and such. I have strong beliefs in traditional Marriage, and as such I do not agree with SSM.
     
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    Gays dont need a marriage license to freely exercise their lifestyle.


    No, giving them tax breaks and governmental entitlements for cheating would be promotion.
     
  19. Oldyoungin

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    Are cheating husbands, cheating spouses given tax breaks ? Are abusive husbands given tax breaks? So are we promoting abuse ? Promoting cheating?

    If a gay wants to enjoy marriage, like his neighbor and other family members, isn't blocking that restricting a freedom ?
     
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    Fair enough. The way I view it is it is their life and if they want to get married , it has zero impact on me so who am I to say no ?
     
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    True, but the risk is obviously much higher for MSM, as the statistics show.

    Are you saying that in Hong Kong, the gay population is so much higher that 53% of HIV becomes a reasonable figure? Besides, in the US, according to the CDC, that 2% demographic actually accounts for 56% of HIV cases.
     
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    ?????No

    He is free to do so. And the tax breaks and governmental entitlements of marriage arent freedoms.
     
  23. Oldyoungin

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    Of course they are freedoms , freedom from over taxing .... Same freedom that abusive husbands and cheating spouses enjoy .
     
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    Thanks for the demonstration of the absurdity of your arguments.
     
  25. hseiken

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    Statistics and testing suggest smoking causes cancer. there is a strong link between cigarettes and cancer.

    this is literally how the results were reported. They're known and accepted facts.

    You are free to not believe it. however, this whole science/polling/testing wording defense that has crept up into the mainstream conservative sphere just looks completely ignorant. In fact, I'd say this alone backs up the exact reports that you're denying. ;)

    We're so sorry that the language doesn't meet with your approval. However, that's the language. What you should be looking at isn't the language, but looking at how the tests were conducted and what the controls were in order to satisfy your acceptance of the test/report to being up to snuff. However, you're hung up on the English...which isn't scientific at all. It's completely unrelated.

    I'd just like to point out that the posts you've made in this thread suggest you don't understand statistics.
     

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