Pot should remain illegal

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3037578/

 

While I agree with you about the damaging effects of pot, I don't agree with banning it. Everyone should have the right to fry their brains if they want to.

 

Should they get food stamps, section 8 housing, day care supplements...

I mean if they can make a decent living and pay their own way it is fine but... If they can not pass a drug test it makes it hard to get a decent job.

 

Screw you, bud. It's my body. You have no right to tell me what to do with it, as long as I'm causing you no harm. Even assuming you're right, and it causes effects days or even weeks afterwards (which I find laughable), it doesn't matter. I own me. You don't.

Seriously, what life view do you subscribe to that gives you the right to tell me I can't impair myself for days???

 

I completely agree with you. At first I thought you were for banning all consumption of weed, including the ones not living on welfare.

 

As long as you can pay your way with no tax dollar assistrance in the forms I mentioned in post 3 then it is all on you. If you are a tax burden then it is my business.

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No I am not completely against it but we are an immature society when it comes to these things.

 

Just look at potheads. Most of them are too impaired to realize that weed is negatively impacting their cognitive abilities. And worse, they appear to suffer from some sort of audible hallucinations communicating to them that they are actually getting smarter. They suffer no physical dependency, which unlike some addicts makes them fortunate. But the psychological prison cannabis has them locked inside is just as debilitating, and in some cases worse. It is an extremely powerful drug and stoners like to engage in penis measuring contests to prove otherwise yet they remain mostly oblivious to the realities of their situation.

To be clear, my stance remains the same. Remain neutral on the federal level and leave sole discretion up to each individual states.

That being said as governor I would personally have traffickers executed.

 

I can go along with that as long as they make alcohol illegal as well.

 

In a country that allows cigarettes to have secret recipes with intentionally addictive additives, lets oil companies destroy groundwater drinking supplies, food companies poison and genetically alter foods without due disclosure, even with ingredients banned in the rest of the world, peddles pharmaceuticals with side-effects worse than what they are meant to treat, spikes our water supply etc.. a health concern is the least believable excuse to want to outlaw cannabis.

 

I agree, but let's not stop there. What about all these drunk people on welfare? We need to make alcohol illegal (it worked out real good the last time). I saw a guy walk into a store the other day smoking a Marlboro, and when he got inside he paid with food stamps. We need to make cigs illegal. Also, you can poke holes in a soda can and use it to smoke marijuana, we need to make aluminum illegal. I read online about some girl committing suicide with a piece of broken glass - we need to make glass illegal. Also, anyone contemplating suicide should get the death penalty (that will teach other people not to even think about it). We need to make as many new laws as possible and make the government as big as possible so we can protect everyone from everything. If you can think of any other laws we should make, please let me know.

 

Which has NOTHING to do with whether or not it's legal. I work for myself, which means I answer only to myself, and can only fire myself if I choose to. If you want to tie government benefits to successfully passing drug tests, I'm open to that discussion, depending on what, exactly, you have in mind. But criminalizing the substance itself serves no purpose, except to enrichen drug cartels who use bullets in lieu of lawyers to settle disputes.

Humans WANT drugs. Not 100% by any means, but enough. That's called demand. Where there is demand, there WILL be supply, even if that supply is illicit.

 

there are also long-term damaging effects of taking loans beyond three weeks. ^_-

that it's bad is not a reason to ban it.

 

Though I agree to a point alcohol does not prevent you from getting a job when you are not drunk. Still it makes many abusers stupid in the long run.

My reasoning is not religious or some self righteous (*)(*)(*)(*) it is the impact on productivity and the financial impact. Plenty of pot smokers out there with good heads on their shoulders but there are more who have smoked themselves stupid.

 

A bit off topic, don't you think? Now if you brought up poor eating habits or drinking it would be related but this crap is just a shot at thread derailment.

 

For you and in your eyes perhaps not but... Until other things are restructured (like welfare and drug testing for it) we can not go wholesale legalizing it. Folks take advantage.

 

Who do you think you are?? How is it that you have the authority to tell other free humans what substances they can and cannot use? Are you God?

 

So far, the Colorado "experiment" has proven you wrong.

 

And what does that reply have to do with the post you quoted?

 

You didn't answer my question.

Who in the (*)(*)(*)(*) are you to tell me what I can and cannot put into my body? From where did you get that authority?

 

Really? You still get terminated for failing a drug test.

 

That's a fair response; I can see your point.

 

Not in my company. Which has nothing to do with the topic at hand, which is whether or not it should be legal. My opinion is, that as long as an employee is sober while at work, what they do on their own time is their own business. But even should it be held that a positive drug test (which may detect usage days, or even weeks ago, when not on the clock) is just cause for firing someone, it's completely unrelated to the legal status.

 

I agree. A person living off of tax dollars should not be using drugs, alcohol or smoking. Not when a guy that busts his ass every day may need a pack of smokes but has not got the cash for it.

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Then we test for benefits and I am fine with it though studies show it kills productivity.

 

What studies? Are you making stuff up as you go?

I think you are....

 

Strange position to take given your avatar.

My position has never been that cannabis is harmless - if you smoke it you're breathing in burnt plant matter, which means tar and chemicals. Vaporize instead. It's also mildly addictive, and if you're not careful it makes it very easy to lounge around.

I accept these downsides as a free individual. In much the same way that someone accepts the risk of liver cirrhosis and aggressive behavior when they drink alcohol. Think for yourself - alcohol has far more downsides than cannabis. I'm not saying that that means you should smoke cannabis, but keep in mind that just because Mr Obama says something is bad doesn't make it so. If you want to smoke weed, then smoke weed. If you don't want to smoke weed, then don't smoke weed. There is no need for conflict here.

Drug policy is like the right's Obamacare. It's their way of having the state protect+rule over you.