Lone ST8 I don't believe for a minute you have see the video @ AE 911 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mK86S-HZxTE If you had there is no way you would be here saying what you are saying and making such a fool of yourself. Try to focus on the mountain of evidence, one piece at a time. Pay attention now, you don't need to be an expert for this. There is a fire burning in building 7. It is near column 79. (the column which failed per govt final report) Even though office materials in hi-rise buildings are fire retardant per building code, for some reason on this day the fire decided to increase in temperature, from 500-700 degrees (office fire temperature) up to 2700 degrees or so. (melting steel temperature) Despite no fuel to cause this rise in temperature the fire does it anyway and melts the steel and column 79 fails. Then, at the exact same moment, ALL OF THE OTHER STEEL CONNECTIONS HOLDING TOGETHER THE STEEL FRAME of THE ENITRE BUILDING also all fail simultaneously, causing the building to collapse instantly, falling straight down in perfect symmetry into its own footprint. My question for you: When column 79 failed (the source of the collapse per govt report) what was it that caused the REST of the steel frame to collapse at the exact same moment and free fall. The govt report never has and never will offer an explanation for this, but im sure you have one, since you are so confident about the official story. If you can explain this away for me, I will move on to # 2 of the other 176 pieces of irrefutable evidence for controlled demolition
I really don't give a damn what you believe..I've wasted more time watching silly truther youboob videos than I care to remember... pure bovine fecal matter,all of them..
have you seen the physics experiments done by Johnathan Cole? or the work of David Chandler? ..... "bovine fecal matter" REALLY?
I'm sorry, Johnathan Cole & David Chandler have presented evidence with a good scientific foundation, and you choose to dismiss it ....... your loss ......
On a website to sell their DVDs, but not to a body that could review their 'research' and perhaps DO something about the so called 'conspiracy'? Where is the presentation to the authorities, the scientific community, an international engineering board?
This is a consciousness raising exercise, given that if anybody were to launch a lawsuit or demand prosecution of any public official, the courts will most likely shut down whatever is started, before it even has its day in court. with that said, the ONLY thing that can be done, is to make sure that the public gets it and when the masses actually get it, then some real action can start. Like with getting us out of Viet Nam, its going to take a LOT of commitment from a LOT of people to make it happen, the conventional modes of seeking redress, do not function, we will have to take action ( and please note I advocate non-violent, legal actions here, this is not about starting a revolution or storming the Basile ) I can only hope that the masses get it soon, that is the TV is not only a vast wasteland, but a toxic dump that contaminates the viewer. it is spiritual poison! Also, as an action that can and indeed should be taken abandon the "republican Vs. democrat" fiasco, if you are a dues paying member of either party, drop your membership and be sure to communicate with the party leaders as to your intent. Usually the "fringe parties" get only a small percentage of the vote but what if NO democrat & NO republican got any votes at all and ALL of the votes went to the alternative parties? Make a statement people! don't just continue with the same old status quo. to obtain REAL change, not the fake change peddled by slymie politicians, we are going to have to make it from the grass-roots up! top-down change just leads to more central control and the old USSR already proved that doesn't work!
I believe the original question was why no presentation to the "powers that B" and I believe I gave an answer to that. any specific nits you need addressed? what?
its on the web-page, the videos are available for viewing FREE, and there are explanations of the reasons for KNOWING that the towers & 7 were destroyed by controlled demolition. there are very good reasons for knowing that there were no airliners used in the attacks, note "FLT175" the plane that melts into the side of the south tower. and the marvelous disappearing "FLT77" & "FLT93" The scientific community has full access to all the info it needs to make an informed judgement on the subject also see Patriots Question 9/11 on the web, many military officers & professors in the list, This is NOT just the domain of the "Joe Nobody" characters, there are some people that the establishment at least should consider as being credible sources, however WHY is it that the very moment that anybody questions the official story of 9/11, they get branded HERETIC?
So they haven't presented their evidence to anyone specifically? Good luck with getting any momentum that way.
all fine & dandy, how about YOU look at the evidence, and YOU tell us what is lacking in said evidence. Good debate, having people address the issue rather than complain about lack of "proper" focus in data distribution.
_________ What in the hell are you talking about? THIS IS THE SCIENTIFIC COMMUNITY!!! THEY ARE THE ONES WHO DID THE RESEARCH AND ARE BEHIND THE ENTIRE MOVEMENT. And the presentation to the "authorities" is HERE. http://www.ae911truth.org/signatures/Petition-2000-AEs-13-09.pdf Do everyone a favor and read the original thread before you start commenting. It is not possible to see the evidence in the documentary and still believe the "official" govt fairytale about these events. The reason you haven't seen this on your Teevee, where you get all your information, is that they are asking the people who committed the crime for help. I know youre looking for a 30 second microwave solution, but There is no simple solution when your govt attacks and kills thousands of its own people. Awareness is what matters
Have YOU read the NIST report? Can you show me where they stated the structural steel components melted? Structural steel components under a load need not melt to fail.[/quote] If all connections failed simultaneously as you claim then why did the east penthouse collapse FIRST and then 6 seconds later the rest of the building collapsed?
So we should believe less than 1% of the engineering community? Furthermore, why should I care what electrical or chemical engineers have to say about structural engineering? Are you suggesting that all disciplines should be treated with equal merit because they are all "engineers"? I suppose you'd call a chemical engineer to design your house right?
anybody who did not sleep through middle school science can get this. its not rocket science, the towers & 7 were destroyed by explosives!
If explosives were used which make a building collapse at free-fall (9.8 m/s[SUP]2[/SUP]) because all resistance has been removed, why are you claiming that the structures fell at 64% of g (6.3 m/s[SUP]2[/SUP])?! You aren't making any sense.
