No Boeing 767 impacted the South Tower on 911

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  1. jafc

    jafc Member

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    7Forever why is the sky brown in your gif. From what I can remember it was clear blue skies or was that a conspiracy as well.
     
  2. 7forever

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    I would verify that Cloud saw the ball. Patricia Ondrovic also saw it while standing beneath the towers. Your fake videos are a little less of joke than you are. I would do this by showing that the media filmed the ball accurately at least four times. YOU WOULD HAVE TO PROVE YOUR FAKE VIDEOS ARE REAL, WHICH IS IMPOSSIBLE.:roflol:
     
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    No, wrong. None of the videos have been proved fake. You carry the burden of proof...and you have failed.

    The only "fake" here is you, the internet-psuedo detective...using bogus claims, quote-mining and lies.

    That's your reputation.
     
  4. 7forever

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    You can't answer reality, I'm not gonna stop.:cool: Did Cloud see a chopper or was that the ball, or maybe a black plane? What did he see? Was it an illusion?:fingerscrossed:
     
  5. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well, since you can see a plane in the myriad of videos, your bad gif ball imagination just goes out the window along with your other fantasies.
     
  6. 7forever

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    He was one mile away and only saw the ball and a white flash. He failed to mention seeing something on tv, but stuck to not seeing anything. This one witness is corroborated by the four tv broadcasts that aired the ball. You have to make up lies that are easily refutable. Is it possible for a plane to look like a ball from a mile away?:fingerscrossed::roflol:

    Clifton Cloud: "I was probably about a mile away and um, I didn't, didn't realize that the second explosion was going on...it was just just a quick sharp blast of white light, orange and then the sound, the shockwave hit a few minutes later."

    Lauer: "And it was while you were shooting that, that the second plane came into view, and as you said, you really didn't even realize what you had captured. What was your response when you went back and looked carefully at the tape?

    Cloud: "I thought about um, where the plane had hit in the sixties floor where one of my companies largest client's is."

    2nd plane & 1st "collapse" Clifton Cloud 9/12 11:50 am - YouTube

    He told the truth on the ground and on tv a few hours later...HE SAW NO PLANE. HE SAW THE CHOPPER/BALL.:cool:
     
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    No answer 7?

    :smile:
     
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    Patricia Ondrovic is not an admissible witness. She was non compus mentus at the time, as evidenced by her random and erratic accounts which conflict with those of witnesses from the same place and time. Most specificly, her reported and abused statements have been used incorrectly by a pack of drooling idiots like Greaham MacQueen and David Ray Griffin to support their delusions. They committed one tremendous fallacy of language after another, and only an idiot with no experience in fire fighting or construction would endorse their blather.
     
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    ...enter, 7-11.
     
  10. 7forever

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    She does just fine, thank her very much. She saw the ball and was underneath the towers. Can a plane look like a ball when standing beneath the towers?:roflol:
     
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    It was a plane, not a ball.
     
  12. jafc

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    Whys the sky brown in your gif i'm sure it was clear blue skies on the day.
     
  13. 7forever

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    Your flight myth belief is thoroughly obliterated by a simple NBC interview. It's that simple to fracture fiction that no one has really defended and certainly never proved.

    Flight 175 could not have flown over the Verrazano bridge at any time according to official flight data. This is what happens in a coverup. What really happened is hidden in plain sight, and mostly ignored. It was captured in real-time by atc's and provides conclusive proof of something else, the ball which moved north of the towers, then flew west into Jersey and circled back toward the towers. Of course this was not any type of plane, but the object that cbs, wb11, ny1, and nbc filmed.

    The Verrazano approach is completely different from the 911 commission's fiction. It's southeast compared to the official southwest approach. The blue line represents the official flight myth and the Verrazano circle around is the closest that anyone has ever gotten to the real flight path that is backed by countless witnesses, for the ball.

    Varcadapane: He says to me, “As a matter of fact, do you see that target coming over the Verrazano Bridge.” I went over to the radar and looked at the radar. The Verrazano Bridge is depicted on the radar. And I looked over there and I saw the aircraft descending out of 4700 feet, 3600 feet, 2700 feet."

    Greg Callahan: And I could hear him calling on altitudes. “I have a target in sight, he’s descending rapidly.” And he said—“Look out to the southeast,” and the gentleman working ground control said, “Hey, who’s that by the Verrazano Bridge?” "And here comes a very large target descending rapidly, very fast." http://www.nbcnews.com/id/14754701/page/3/#.UwTej-ko6po

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMlls8-X5pk

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    CASE CLOSED
     
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    He was on a roof, east and slightly north of the towers. He saw a white flash and explosion and failed to mention seeing something on tv, but stuck to not seeing anything.

    Clifton Cloud: "I was probably about a mile away and um, I didn't, didn't realize that the second explosion was going on...it was just just a quick sharp blast of white light, orange and then the sound, the shockwave hit a few minutes later."

    Lauer: "And it was while you were shooting that, that the second plane came into view, and as you said, you really didn't even realize what you had captured. What was your response when you went back and looked carefully at the tape?

    Cloud: "I thought about um, where the plane had hit in the sixties floor where one of my companies largest client's is."

    2nd plane & 1st "collapse" Clifton Cloud 9/12 11:50 am - YouTube
     
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    Yep, where the plane had hit.
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So he didn't see a plane? That is no proof of no plane.
     
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    oh thats rich, its proof enough for you when people claim to have seen one but when people say there was no plane that not proof to you....

    thats really special.
     
  20. Kokomojojo

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    how nice they gave him the chance to impeach himself so he didnt have to wear concrete overshoes.

    Of course debunkers live in a alice in wonderland world where nothing like that would every happen.
     
  21. 7forever

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    How many eyewitnesses do you have that were recorded before, during and after the explosion?
     
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    Irrelevant,your 'witness says he saw no plane,then says he DID

    That's an unreliable witness in any book.
     
  23. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Lots, but you only concentrate on one guy that didn't see anything. LOL
     
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    Eye witnesses are notoriously unreliable ..... what does the photographic record show?
    and if you think that the video of "FLT175" striking the south wall of the south tower is
    a perfect depiction of an airliner striking a skyscraper, I have have a bridge for you ( cheep ... )
     
  25. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well you can "cheep" [SIC] like a chicken all you want, your fantasy will never be true.
     
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