We should ban anal sex

So you think America was just like Iran up until these recent Supreme Court decisions overturning sodomy laws?

 

I wouldn't say anal sex is any more risky than oral sex in terms of the spread of disease.

The only reason anal sex is on the radar, so to speak, is because homosexual anal sex has a higher prevalence of transmitting HIV than most other forms of sex in America.

Granted, most of the world's spread of AIDS is from "normal" heterosexual sex.

As others have mentioned, using a condom reduces your risks whether it's with regular sex or anal sex. As for oral sex, you can always use a dental dam.

 

Sodomy also includes oral sex. It is not semantics for the simple reason that two things are not the same as one thing.

Is it possible for you to make a case based on it's own merits, without leeching legitimacy from black people? Every single time gays try to debate something, it's the same thing: "Blacks, blacks, blacks, us". You are not the same.

 

In some ways, yes.

The way our government handled the Red Scare was much like the Soviet Union's tactics against political dissidents or modern Iran's treatment of blasphemers/dissidents.

As far as the sodomy laws go, they were used more as a harassment tactic by police than actually enforced to the letter of the law.

 

That was my point exactly.

 

smoking related diseases kill millions of Americans every year, and cost billions of dollars in healthcare costs.

can we please make smoking a crime?

 

Umm, it totally doesn't matter if they are the result of hetero sex. Are you unable to understand that anal sex and gay sex are not synonyms?

 

Even pot? I don't think your fellow Democrats would be too happy about that.

 

The Red Scare has no bearing on sodomy laws one way or another.

Well, police do like to harass, but that, too, is a separate issue that needs to be dealt with.

 

smoking marijuana has caused exactly 0 deaths in the USA.

 

Simply solution is if someone tests postive for an STD and then goes out and infects someone else then put that persons name and pic on a database that people can easily access. This will brand them for life and force them to make their future partners aware before hand. I don't know if you can currently sue someone for giving you an STD but if that isn't already the case then that should be an available avenue as well.

 

Yes, but the timing of the ruling came after all of that... Sorry, I had to have a little fun with that.

Well, the issue stems from having laws that are easy to abuse. A law banning a personal behavior like this is very prone to exploitation. You see the same tactics with regimes that want to silence opposition.

 

Well, that's a bit broad, I think. Incurable STDs, maybe. But most stuff would be taken care of within a week or so after detection anyway.

 

Well, the weird thing is that some very liberal states have a war on tobacco while desiring to legalize pot.

It would be much more consistent to support the freedom to use both.

 

Great post, you really hit every point. Got to wonder about people who would outlaw big gulps or red meat for being a health threat but won't outlaw unprotected anal sex.

 

I'll go for that if Liberal Gays will keep it out of public places.

 

Actually Sodomy laws varied depending on state whether they included anal sex and oral sex. The law that the Supreme Court ruled illegal was this:

“deviate sexual intercourse, namely anal sex, with a member of the same sex (man).”

So- the law the Supreme Court found unconstitutional was a law against anal sex.

I am not the same as what?

What I like about using slavery as an example is because most rational Americans understand that slavery is unconstitutional- and yes it provokes an emotional reaction. I used sickle cell anemia and black people to show how anyone can rationalize ignoring the constitution on some trumped up medical excuse.

If you don't like that- how about this- what if California made it illegal to own a gun- for health reasons? How about if Texas passed a law outlawing Kosher food being sold in the state claiming that Kosher food wasn't safe to eat?

Get where I am going with this? You can't just decide to ignore Constitutional protections by trumping up medical rationalizations.

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Yeah I should have specified....bacterial stuff can be cured but viral stuff is forever. This does bring up the issue of if someone gets the clap and is so selfish that they can't wait till its cured and they go infect someone else. I think they should still be held liable and the other party can sue them.

 

I actually agree- I think that the laws regarding where you can smoke pot or cigarettes should be the same. And the laws regarding public intoxication shoudl apply to pot also

 

False. Marijuana contains carcinogens and has been shown to increase risk of lung cancer.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23846283

There have also been traffic fatalities caused by marijuana intoxication:

http://seattle.cbslocal.com/2014/02/04/study-fatal-car-crashes-involving-marijuana-have-tripled/

Here's a debate tip, Ron. Avoid absolutes in your arguments like "smoking marijuana has caused exactly 0 deaths in the USA". All I need to do is show 1 death and your argument goes down in flames.

 

or go the canadian route and charge them with assualt....one man was convicted of having unprotected sex with 11 women and failing to inform them he was hiv positive, two died from hiv and he was convicted of murder, he had a dangerous repeat offender tagged onto his sentence so he'll likely never leave prison alive...

Maybe this should be applied to all people who have unprotected sex with someone while knowingly having an STI and failing to inform the partner...

 

I completely agree. The same liberals in California who want cigarette smoking banned are huge supporters of marijuana smoking. Completely inconsistent, but I find most progressive positions to be rife with inconsistency and double standards, so I'm not too surprised.

 

I agree somewhat, although the punishment should be relative to the hazards of the illness.

Someone spreading HIV should be punished much more severely than someone spreading herpes, for example.

 

Yep. It's why I'm a social libertarian for the most part. Libertarianism seems to take the best parts of liberalism and progressivism while leaving out the bad parts.

 

I believe that the state should stay the hell out of any bedroom where two consenting adults are having sex of whatever kind they so desire.