Iraq: The Bush Legacy

You think those mass graves are a lie do you? That there are mass graves all over Iraq and one is filled with nothing but women and children shot in the back of the head. Well they are true, very true. So are the executions in the Middle of town. I saw videos of those myself. Unless of course you can prove them wrong.

 

Link: http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/PLAW-107publ243/html/PLAW-107publ243.htm

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Wow, just look at the Liberals trying to pin what is happening now on Bush. Just a few months ago, the VP was taking credit for Iraq. Now that it looks like it's going to fall because this President has done nothing to help, they want to bring up Bush and blame him. Sorry, it don't work that way. You can't take credit when it's going good and then blame others 5 years later when your in charge of it going bad.

 

I appreciate that conservatives want to try to blame Democrats for the Iraq fiasco.

And I give them some blame. They gave Bush authorization to make the decision if diplomacy failed. In hindsight, it's clear to see that trusting his administration to do the right thing was a mistake.

But the decision to invade and occupy Iraq was made by the Bush and the conservatives in his administration.

 

You liberals let us know when Barack Obama's Presidency begins. Let us know when Barack Obama should start being responsible.

What a joke. A liberal will revise any history, tell any lie, and shrug any reality if it is politically expedient.... and then tomorrow if it does not work for their narrative they will change their story and tell another lie.

 

Wow, just look at the Conservatives trying to pin what is happening in Iraq on Obama. Before the invasion, Iraq was ruled by a strongman who kept the country together, and served as a bulwark against Al Quaida and Iran in the region. Bush and the conservatives' "mistaken" invasion of Iraq destablized the region and threw Iraq into a civil war and left Iraq with a corrupt terrorist government that resulted in the chaos today. And now conservatives want to blaaaaaame Obaaaaama. Sorry, it don't work that way. You can't take credit when it's going good and blame others when you've created the disaster.

 

Both parties have blood on their hands. I'm no libertarian but I would vote for Ron Paul over Hillary or whatever psychopath the republicans toss out there. Luckily there's the Green Party!

 

Again, I keep forgetting that Bush is still President.

 

You keep forgetting that Bush was president and caused this fiasco.

 

You mean the fiasco of Obama's abandonment against the reality on the ground? And of course you will be giving credit to Bush for getting Bin Laden, right?

 

Saddam kept it together by murdering anyone who even talked against him. Damn right we blame Obama. He was seeing what was happening. He was asked for using (UNMANNED DRONES) to hlp bomb these insurgents for four months and he ignored it. He watched city after city fall and still ignored it. Who else should we blame?

 

trying to hang blame on the democratic senators who voted for the resolution is ridiculous. I will readily admit that I was furious with each and every one who cast their vote in that manner and I vowed then and there to never vote for another one of them ever again unless they publicly admitted that their vote had been a mistake.

Having said that, all the votes in congress did not order one single American soldier into battle. The decision whether to invade, conquer and occupy Iraq was made by one man and one man alone: Dick Cheney... and Dubya dutifully went along with it. And if that decision has proven to be a bad one, and it has, then the buck stops at the decider's desk.

 

The buck never stops at the current deciders desk. You should extend the same courtesy to Bush.

 

Getting out of the war was no fiasco. It should have been done long ago. But Bush and the conservatives passed the buck to the next president, so they could blame him for their "mistake".

It was obvious years ago.

 

You droll wit you! 'Bush did it' in the 6th year of the Obama reign....I figure sometime around 2050 at the height of the Martian Invasion some aging hippie will be squeaking from his rest home 'Its all Bush's fault' to the mild amusement of his care givers...

 

Only to the partisan haters.

 

Obviously not the folk trying to blame Bush for the Obama world of appeasement and policy failure.

 

Obama and administration had no foreign policy contingency plans for Iraq other than just get the hell out. As much as everyone would like the US to get out of the ME we can't...because it is about the oil there the world needs!

 

Who denies this? On the contrary, in my personal opinion that was a valuable option [I say "in my personal opinion" since the Conservative Italian government, leaded by Berlusconi wasn't so persuaded about the invasion, in fact we arrived later, to take part to the occupation].

Then, and here someone is "beating about the bush" [I chose words with a bit of ironical rhetoric], the Democratic Senators voted in favor of that resolution. They had the possibility to vote against it [like Democratic Representatives did in the House].

So, What I'm saying is that someone is saying ...

"they decided, they had the Presidency, we decided to support their decision, but only at Senate, but for sure we are not responsible for the consequences"

Ah ... so this is a clear political strategy in US [I'm Italian, may be I've got a different idea of politics].

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Ok, apply the same political reasoning to the decisions taken by Obama administration since he entered the office ... are you still so persuaded that what we see today is a "Bush legacy"?

 

They figure if they keep bringing up Bush and how the war started, we'll forget who has abandoned Iraq. They won't ever put one once of responsibility on their Messiah Obama. I'm waiting for them to put all the blame on the Right of the mess that Obama has made of our immigration policy next. He has made the border an open door. They are flooding in here.

 

If you want another wasteful war, why don't you get your gun and head for Iraq.

There is no policy failure here. There was NO policy involved in attacking Iraq.

 

You can't take credit for something you didn't do like the Obama administration did with Iraq and then over 5 years later under your administration, blame Bush for the fiasco that is happening now. It doesn't fly.

 

Iraq wasn't asking for guns or Americans troops on the ground. He was asking for unmanned drones to help fight the enemy and Obama refused that help. To say there is no policy failure here is to be totally blind to reality.

 

There is no magic in using drones.. They kill civilians and rebels alike.

 

People did that already... Now the rodeo clown has wasted all the gains that US soldiers fought for and died for. No use going back when we have a moron as a commander in chief...



But pull up a chair and some pop corn. We are gong to see some brown people kill each other. Some of those who will be killed, will be innocent women and children, but hey, that's what you get when you have a rodeo clown as president.