Hamas rockets reach Jerusalem and Tel Aviv

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  1. free man

    free man Well-Known Member

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    700 rockets by now.
    I wonder how many of this forum had ever been in a situation when a rocket explode near him.
     
  2. free man

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    The leaders who make the money out of it sit in very nice bunkers, under the Gaza hospital, BTW. You know Hayina and his group.
    The leaders who are targeted and killed are the operational field guys.
    They are the ones who do all the hard work for Hamas and once they are down, the damage caused by Hamas is reduced.
    So you can see, both statements are accurate.
     
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    I dont know about you, but my 'comfy home' was not built on land stolen from someone else.
     
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    To anyone who isn't so hopelessly entrenched as to be unable to recognise facts. Israeli attacks are massively, immensely, vastly more damaging than Palestinian ones, anyone who denies that is simply immune to reality.
     
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    Good, they should be. That's how good guys win wars, specifically wars started by their enemy with the explicit objective of wiping them off the map.
     
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    maybe the palestinians should just bend over and allow israeli's to shove whatever they can find up it. If the they dare to move their bottoms then they can be deemed terrorists.
     
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    youre speaking to americans, they think stealing land from their brother is cool.
     
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    That would depend; is the rocket Israeli? Because if it is, the person (along with his family) would not be alive to tell their tale.
     
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    Liberal loons:

    Israel: Peacefully going about daily life. Not shooting at or bothering neighbors.
    Hamas: Suddenly, without provocation, shoots hundreds of rockets into Israel.
    Israel: Responds and kills those responsible.
    Liberal loons: Israel is a terrorist state!!!

    How do you people get out of bed in the morning?
     
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    that depends if my bed has been blown up or not.
     
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    No I mean if you haven't been hit by a Hamas rocket.
     
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    what if iwas hit by an israeli rocket?
     
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    Then I'd have to ask you why you were sleeping with terrorists.

    Hamas started all this by kidnapping and murdering 3 Israli boys.
     
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    There are very few 'good guys' here, and neither the Israeli government nor Hamas (nor, for that matter, Fatah), are among them. That's incredibly naive and short-sighted. Also, it's highly questionable who "started" the "war". After all, this is all land that was taken from Palestinians. Isn't forcibly taking a country usually an act of war? The Palestinians revolted against the British at least three times before the UN decided to hand most of Palestine to a new Jewish state.

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    I can't help wondering which of the disabled people in that building was the terrorist.
     
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    Nonsense, you are confusing "nobody's perfect" with "there are no good guys". Israel is unquestionably "the good guy" in the conflict, a western liberal democracy, outnumbered and surrounded by fanatics bent on wiping it off the map. It is the bottom line of conflict which your next statement completely confirms.


    The land was not taken from Palestinians, the land that did not belong to the Arabs in the first place, the land where no Arab country had ever existed throughout the history was partitioned by the UN (no less) into a Jewish and an Arab states. The Jews agreed to the compromise, the Arabs started a war of annihilation. Fortunately they lost.
     
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    Yes of course as a Professor you should have known a little more the history of the region before backing in this Forum the Arab desiderata of REWRITING HISTORY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    It is clearly far from questionable, or so many people would not question it. Being the lesser of two evils (and lets be fair, they are definitely the lesser evil of those three) does not mean you are good.

    It doesn't matter whether it was classified as a country or not. It was owned by Arabs. Governed by Arabs. Near enough 100% of the population were arabs. Not just for a generation, for centuries. It was their land, until Britain took it, and the UN gave it away.

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    Thanks for taking the time to show exactly what it is that I have said that is factually incorrect.
     
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    No it depends if the one attacked is Israeli or Gazan.
    An Israel has put a lot of money into early detection system, so when a Missile is shot from Gaza, the relevant people hear an alarm.
    Hamas has done nothing to protect his citizens. In fact he tells them to stay in the hous when Israel is known to hit it.
    In addition, each and every Israeli has (by law) a bomb shelter built as one of the rooms in his house. So he goes to that room when the alarm sounds.
    Nor Hamas not the Gazan has spent a dime trying to build bomb shelters for the people. The Hamas leaders sits right now in deep undergrounds shelters while the people has zero protection.
    In addition, Israel had developed the first and right now the only system that can shoot down missiles, so this also reduce the number of missiles by 80%-90%.
    Hamas, has spent 0 on protecting its citizens.

    So the rocket that comes From Gaza will cause much less Israeli casualties compared to the other way around.
    The reasons for that are listed above, Hamas, just don't care how many dies, in fact they like as many dead from their part as possible, this way they can get more money afterwards.
     
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    This is a common misconception.
    When the Turks (who ruled that land) performed a population census in 1905 the number of Jews in Jerusalem was much greater than the number of Muslims or Christians.
     
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    I don't think so.
    As this book directly sources from the aforementioned census.
    http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=...AEwAg#v=onepage&q=ottoman census 1905&f=false

    It states that only 13,700 Jews were living in Jerusalem in 1905.
    Where did you get your figures from?
     
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    Try page 35 of the same book you quoted, see wiki:
     
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    Page 35 states that 13,300 Jews lived in the city of Jerusalem versus the 19,100 non-Jews.
    So when you stated that there were more Jews than Christian or Muslims; were you referring to the city itself or the Jurisdiction it's in?
    Because if it's the latter then I think you'll find that Jews did not outnumber non-Jews.
     
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    Let me try again...."Taking land from the Arabs" can mean one of two things, taking land from an Arab country or taking land from individual arab landowners...

    None of that took place in Palestine, no Arab country ever existed there to be taken land from and you are absolutely wrong, they hadn't ever governed themselves, never was there an Arab government. And they did not own the land either, individual arab landowners owned about half of it (which is what they got in the partition).

    The land was not taken from individual arab land owners either, they were to keep all their property including their land on either side of the partition. And those who remained loyal (or at least neutral) to the state of Israel did. Of course for those who chose to wage war to wipe Israel off the map all bets were off.

    Oh but it does, dear, it does matter a great deal. Palestine was not a country, it was a territory populated primarily by two peoples, both living their legally in full compliance with the law of the land at the time. Partitioning the land between these two peoples was the right and only thing to do....Of course Jews accepted the compromise, the Arabs started a war to drive the Jews into the sea.
     
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    Yes, yes... The old ARAB MOTTO:

    DARABANI WA BAKA = HE HIT ME AND THEN CRIED
    SABAKANI WA SHAKA = AND WENT AHEAD TO REPORT ME.
     
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    when will the Scots come home from Ulster?
     

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