An Atheist view on life.

Again there is nothing that it claims for the Christian that isn't true to Christianity regardless of the individual. Also it says a Christians view on life, not every Christians view on life nor does it say you have to act like any Christian who differs from that slightly isn't really a Christian.

Now lets talk about how you took the op and used it to paint a picture of all atheists. What was it you said again, "Let me know when I'm supposed to take atheists seriously."

Double Standard?

 

If you "God" does not care about me at all....why should I care about IT?

 

Let's not beat this up too much... I don't reply to imbedded comments. I don't like wasting the kind of time it takes to extract them out. If you don't want to take the time to provide independent quotes for each comment, I'm not going to take the time to reply to them. But to pay you your due respect:

I consider it to be a gift, knowing that I am blessed to be human in the first place, and that God gave me a soul that - no matter what I suffer here - will eventually be in a place of peace.

To use the parent/child analogy again... If a parent tells their child not to throw the ball in the house, that they will break something, and the child still throws the ball and breaks a really expensive lamp; is the parent cruel and inhumane for spanking that child and putting in their room for a month only to come out to eat and go to the bathroom?

But when I say 'God is in control of all life', that isn't to say He just goes around arbitrarily destroying it. You seem to be looking at life as in your body (flesh and blood). I'm talking about the life God really deals with - spiritual life. Yes, he controls physical life (our bodies) and can destroy them in an instant. Your body is of no consequence to God. THAT is not life to Him. That is the container of your REAL life, your soul. But this is all nonsense to you, so I'm really just farting in the wind.

If you've read anything in the bible you'd know that we brought this on ourselves. WE sinned. WE disobeyed God. WE chose to reject God. Therefore, WE suffer the consequences of rejecting God. It's like a smoker that has lung cancer and keeps smoking; then getting angry at your body for making the cancer worse. YOU decided to continue smoking. Your body is just sitting back saying "what do you expect ME to do about it. YOU keep putting the poison in". God is simply saying "YOU keep sinning and expect me to make your life without consequences to that? YOU keep filling the cancer-causing agents into the world and you expect ME to fix that? I gave you a brain and intelligence to do the right thing, and you keep choosing the wrong thing; and you expect ME to fix that for you?" And you call God cruel?

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Tell me... what is the reward for believing?

 

A most excellent post alsos.. Keep up the good work.

 

OK, I'll make this simple for you since some things seem to confuse you.

NO, we did NOT bring this on ourselves. We did NOT create ourselves. If we had we would've done a much better job and turned out a better product not the flawed product now in existence.
IF god created you to be a soul meant to be in a place of peace he could've just put you there.



You post: """""""But when I say 'God is in control of all life', that isn't to say He just goes around arbitrarily destroying it. You seem to be looking at life as in your body (flesh and blood). I'm talking about the life God really deals with - spiritual life. Yes, he controls physical life (our bodies) and can destroy them in an instant. Your body is of no consequence to God. THAT is not life to Him. That is the container of your REAL life, your soul. But this is all nonsense to you, so I'm really just farting in the wind.""""""

Yup, the flesh and blood is what suffers so that's what I'm concerned with, not some airyfairy soul, THAT doesn't exist .

If human bodies are of no consequence to god why did he create them, that just does NOT make sense.

If they're of no consequence why does he care what we do with them?

I did NOT keep filling the world with cancer causing agents NOR DID I INVENT CANCER....where did cancer come from if god created everything?


I do NOT keep choosing to do the wrong thing, many people suffering and dying horrible deaths did NOT choose to do the wrong thing.

Even if, in a human's built in ability to choose the wrong thing, what fiend would punish them for doing something he programmed them to do?



And why are you so determined to divert away from the FACT that if your god created earth and everything in it he created horrible pain and suffering for the good people as well as the bad....a fiend.

 

The God character bit the dust when the last Babylonian Emperor died when his empire collapsed. He won't be coming back.

 

Well gee… short of creation, we don’t exist. Good alternative. Keeping it even simpler – God created us. God gave us a choice. We chose to reject God. This rejection has consequences; just as any other thing we do wrong has consequences; and you call God cruel for creating you and you reject that Creator and God telling you that because YOU CHOSE to reject me makes God cruel?

And this makes the discussion pointless. No sense in going any further.

God didn’t creating anything. He’s an airyfairy fictional character.

God didn’t creating anything. He’s an airyfairy fictional character.

God didn’t creating anything. He’s an airyfairy fictional character.

God didn’t creating anything. He’s an airyfairy fictional character.

God didn’t creating anything. He’s an airyfairy fictional character.

God didn’t creating anything. He’s an airyfairy fictional character.

 

LOL! You really didn't need to go through so much work to make it obvious that you have no good answers...it already was obvious.


Your inability to defend, or even address, your god's propensity to cruelty is also obvious.


""""God didn’t creating anything. He’s an airyfairy fictional character.""""

Glad you finally agree!!

 

Be prepared on that statement... Someone in that group of non-theists will almost certainly construe that as a positive assertion as opposed to your real intent.

 

I know the real intent was to divert from the fact that inconvenient questions couldn't be answered.....but they did dig their own hole...

 

LOL… There is a difference between ‘no good answers’ and ‘no answer good enough’. In this discussion, you fall into the latter. Once you’ve entered into the hyperbolic, the conversation is pretty much over.

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Sure enough! Anyone that doesn't see that I posted it over and over as a hint of sarcasm should limit themselves to playing with Tonka Toys.

 

Perhaps a hole that might look like an impression made by walking in the sand... however the hole that Christians dig is just a scratch on the surface of the ground as opposed to the open mining pit dug by non-theists when they attempt to use science as a means of refuting the existence of God or the Power of God or the Love of God....etc.

 

"""There is a difference between ‘no good answers’ and ‘no answer good enough’""""


But you chose "no answer at all" when faced with real questions that you just can't answer.

The Truthful, honest thing would be to say, "I don't have answers to your questions, I live on faith"

 

Blissful Ignorance?

 

That being in the format of a question, I will presume to be interpreted as you don't know?

 

I didn't use the op to paint a picture of all atheists. I used the majority of my experiences with them to do that.

How do you determine which christian it applies to then? Shouldn't it say some christians, or this one but not that one? The fact remains that it told christians what they "thought" and "feel" and then you want to pretend that it couldn't possibly be anything else. I wouldn't stand for that for any group, why would you?

 

Ahh so as long as the person who made that saying in the OP used the majority of their experiences with Christians to write it-it's ok?

It doesn't talk about what they think and feel outside of Christianity, it specifically relates to the Christian belief on a fundamental level. Again which part of it is not a major theme, in fact an essence of Christianity?

It doesn't say they are republicans or democrates or whether they like vanilla better than chocolate. It makes no claims outside of very specific ideals within Christianity. How does one be a Christian without thinking in terms of the Christian faith?

 

If the majority of the ones he met were asses then sure, have at it. Just from my experience most atheists are intolerant and hateful.

I'm not saying anything about how they feel outside they're christianity, I'm talking about how that entire posts makes an argument that all christians feel that way about religion. How are you not getting that?

 

I never denied that belief in God requires faith. But I have given you answers and you don’t accept them. That is not akin to not answering your questions.

 

In post 82 you childishly avoided questions and comments. I can only assume you have no response or answers. If you had you would've responded without the use of "Tonka Toys".

 

You mean my answer to your all-so-adult reply of "airyfairy soul, THAT doesn't exist" comment? Got it!

It was a hint that the conversation was headed down hill and I was ready to end it.

I'll let you have the last word. I've enjoyed the conversation. Have a nice weekend.

 

No, wrong yet again, it was all my questions and comments which you responded to with the equivalent of holding your hands over your ears..... What were you so afraid of?

 

what does "IF" you were a parent mean? I have three of the dears, none of whom are still in diapers, and all of whom still live here, underfoot. and, if my kids decided to reject me completely, then it most certainly IS on me. you must be one of these 'set and forget' parents if you think it's not.

further, if I let them down so badly in my earlier parenting (or lack thereof - see 'set and forget') that they eventually reject me, then I would feel entirely responsible for doing all the leg work in repairing the damage. to sit my throne and declare them bad seeds, who must come crawling back, would be to compound my already dreadful mistakes.

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so? in clinical terms that's passive aggressive silence. it's nuts, and never comes from a good place.

 

so, my kids are my creation, can I lock them in the basement and burn them if they refuse to wash my feet in ass's milk? can I kill them when they (*)(*)(*)(*) me off?

oh, so Christians have SPECIAL MAGICAL VISION now? seeing the sparkles where we see none?

 

so YOU know what's in 'god's heart', then? how?

exaggerates or bloats like "WORSHIP ME OR BURN IN THE LAKE OF FIRE", for example?