5 Reasons Hillary Won't Run

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  1. Natty Bumpo

    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    Actually, nevermind.

    The most likely reason that Hillary won't run is because she won't have to. The GOP can't find her an opponent.
     
  2. OLD PROFESSOR

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    Only crazy people would be willing to put up with the abuse an American president has thrown at him. Not to mention that his/her life expectancy declines dramatically - both because of the stress of the job and the threat of assignation. I'm not sure Hillary qualifies.
     
  3. Bluesguy

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    Yes a court convicted him, Judge Wright convicted him of lying under oath for the purpose of obstructing justice and submitting a false affidavit, that is perjury.

    Like I said submitting a false affidavit is prima facie evidence of perjury. And you have yet to show how Clinton's false statements under oath for the purpose of obstructing a judicial proceeding was not perjury. Let's hear it this time.

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    Yes it is correct are you denying she held him in contempt for lying under oath and submitting a false affidavit and fined him $90,000 for doing so?
     
  4. Bluesguy

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    Convict Definition
    dictionary.search.yahoo.com
    v. verb
    To find or prove (someone) guilty of an offense or crime, especially by the verdict of a court.

    He was found guilty of an offense

    crime noun \ˈkrīm\
    : an illegal act for which someone can be punished by the government

    Because he committed an illegal act and then he was punished by the government.

    Again are you denying he lied under oath for the purpose of obstructing the judicial process and that he submitted a false affidavit? Yes or no?
     
  5. expatriate

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    one cannot be a felon unless one is convicted in a court of law of committing a felony. period. civil contempt is not a felony, nor has it ever been one.
     
  6. expatriate

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    Elements of the crime of perjury:
    (1) a false statement is made under oath or equivalent affirmation during a judicial proceeding; (2) the statement must be material or relevant to the proceeding; and (3) the witness must have the Specific Intent to deceive.

    Everyone knew that (2) would be difficult to prove, which is why he was not prosecuted for the crime of perjury and only held in civil contempt.
     
  7. homerjay_s

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    I wonder how long it will take for the supporters of either party to realize that they have been duped into believing that the "option" they settled on is any different than the one that scared them to pick a supposed lesser evil.
     
  8. Lil Mike

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    Wow..."Bluesgay." I thought you guys were supposed to accuse everyone else of racism/sexism/homophobia, not demonstrate it yourselves?
     
  9. expatriate

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    just a typo....

    next?
     
  10. expatriate

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    did you want to say anything of substance about my post, or just whine?
     
  11. Lil Mike

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    Just point out your homophobia, but since you said it's a typo...
     
  12. expatriate

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    So that is tacit agreement on your part that Clinton was not found guilty of any crime... and certainly not found guilty of a felony. Thanks for that.
     
  13. Lil Mike

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    You seem to have gotten more childish throughout this thread. Are you Benjamin Button?
     
  14. expatriate

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    No. Are you Forrest Gump?
     
  15. Lil Mike

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    Heh, that was so dumb I actually got a laugh out of it!
     
  16. expatriate

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    I'll be here all week... try the veal!
     
  17. Bluesguy

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    Well this is old but picked it up looking for something else and don't know if expatriate is still around BUT

    Submitting a false affidavit is PRIMA FACIE evidence of perjury and yes it was material to the proceedings and never ruled immaterial. He was not prosecuted criminals because he plea bargained it and admitted his guilt to do so and agreeing to not contest the Arkansas bar revoking his license. Robert Ray believed that and the $90.000 fine would suffice as punishment.

    The fact remains he committed felonies in a federal court and received some pretty severe punishment for doing so.
     
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    How can Hillary run with those cankles ?
     

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