Worst president in US history

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Who was the worst president in US history?

  1. Barack Obama

    43.1%
  2. Richard Nixon

    4.2%
  3. Franklin D. Roosevelt

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  4. Jimmy Carter

    4.2%
  5. George W. Bush

    22.2%
  6. Bill Clinton

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  7. Other (please specify)

    26.4%
  1. PT Again

    PT Again New Member

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    This is what I don't get...........the bolded...............insurance is not healthcare............Its not even accurate to claim it as insurance reform..........

    As a matter of fact, the ACA has killed the risk management aspect and now they are just a payment system..... Thus becoming the elephant in the room that is driving up the costs of true healthcare........
     
  2. Steady Pie

    Steady Pie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's called the Affordable Care Act or Obamacare - either suggest healthcare. As I said, people don't look into the details.
     
  3. PT Again

    PT Again New Member

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    Preaching to the choir brother................preaching to the choir
     
  4. Kessy_Athena

    Kessy_Athena New Member

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    James K Polk, hands down. Polk was responsible for taking the US into an unprovoked war of naked aggression and territorial expansion. Nobody else even comes close.

    Obama is an excellent President when it comes to policy, but he's really bad at the political side of the job. Although to be fair, that's probably not entirely his fault: he was always going to have hordes of screaming lunatics declaring him the spawn of Satan simply because of the color of his skin.
     
  5. PT Again

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    You have this completely assbackwards...............
     
  6. Kessy_Athena

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    Nooooo... I don't. Unless, of course, you think that deliberately starting a second great depression is a good policy, as certain people seem to.
     
  7. AlphaOmega

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    make sure your helmet has your address and home phone written in it and any allergies. Reagans morning craps could have made better Presidents than this piece of sh&*.
     
  8. Crawdadr

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    I win this one

    John Tyler he did very little, thought the president should make policy not Congress, got thrown out of his own party. But the worst of all when the south seceded from the Union he got himself elected to the Confederate House of Representatives. A bonafide true grey traiter you cannot get much worse then that. Some folks may claim Obama or Bush were traitors due to political beliefs but this guy was a part of a government bent on the destruction of the Union.
     
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    Some clear ODS going on in this thread. Franklin Pierce has always been one of my least favorites, but i'd have to go with James Buchanan for the absolute worst as well.
     
  10. goober

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    Reagan reversed the trend for wealth to be more evenly distributed, the rest followed.
    Wealth has become more and more concentrated since Reagan cut taxes on the wealthy, and shifted the burden to the middle class.
     
  11. Crawdadr

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    I dont see how they could be worse then a president that served in the government of a foreign power that was at war with the united states?
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Glad you approve. Anyone can have an opinion .. but is it informed ?
     
  13. Gatewood

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    Hmmm . . . you mean the same middle class that Obama has devastated during the last five and a half years? Wow! Neat trick Reagan . . . you somehow managed to make Barack Obama be a baaaaaaad president!
     
  14. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    naked accusations. I have no love for BO but that is no excuse for blind partisanship.
     
  15. AlphaOmega

    AlphaOmega Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Says the guy who started his post with "Rotten Ronnie was far worse. As was Bush". I guess you don't like blind partisanship but you sure like your 20/20 version.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's not partisanship. Facts are facts and so far you have presented none in support of your claim.

    Ronnie and Bush were the opposite of "fiscal conservative" both raising the deficit by an enormous amount. Obama did not do this.

    Ronnie supported genocidal and blood thirsty dictators all over the world including supporting Saddam while he was gassing people. Bush was foreign policy nightmare and made us look like a joke on the world stage setting horrible presidents (ignoring international law) which are not biting us in the backside including withdrawing from the ABM treaty(something good that Reagan did accomplish)

    Bush was the one that started NSA spying on US citizens (in the name of fighting off a foreign threat) .... Obama is continuing this trampling of the Constitution.

    Bush handed Obama collapsed housing market, a deficit of 1.4 Trillion, a collapsing job market, a financial system that was collapsing (commercial paper markets froze which, if not unfrozen would have led to a complete economic and financial collapse)

    Obama has the deficit down to 500 Billion, he housing market is rebounding, job market is rebounding and the economy and financial system are back on their feet.

    He did not drag us into a war costing 4 trillion dollars and killing thousands of US soldiers while wounding tens of thousands. A war that was propagated on the basis of lies. A war that almost none of our allies supported. A war that set a horrible president.

    Notice I have given specifics. Please do not respond with platitude and naked claims.
     
  17. AlphaOmega

    AlphaOmega Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    oh f&*(ing please the job market is as bad as it gets. They have stopped counting people who stopped collecting.
    No he didn't drag us into a war that cost 4 trillion, he spent that with nothing to show for it other than a lot of nice vacations.
    Bush started the patriot act which I was against. Obama took that and ran with it like a mother fU&(*- (I was against it when Bush did it because I was smart enough to know there would be a m effer like Obama who would run with it. There was and he did.)
    Your deficit calcs are typical lib math
    President A) 10 dollars deficit increased to 20 dollar deficit
    President B) 1000 dollar deficit increased to 1999 dollar deficit.
    Does A look better or worse to you?
    Obama has spent more money than any human being in mankinds recorded history with absolutely nothing to show for it. We cant even make our own apple juice anymore.
    Hes also friends with a bona fide nail bomb terrorist who attacked our own country and still isn't sorry for what he did.
     
  18. Moi621

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    Consider America's stature on the world stage.
    Consider the lives of working folks.

    Obama is now the worst President in U.S. History.
    No other President has had such a disastrous effect on the nation at home and abroad.

    Moi :oldman:

    r > g
    May as well vote GOP
    They lie less.

    They say they favor the rich


    No :flagcanada:
     
  19. Giftedone

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    You have no clue what you are talking about. which is typical of right wing partisan zealots.
    Obama was handed a 1.4 trillion dollar deficit. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_United_States_federal_budget

    If you were a real fiscal conservative, like me, you would not be gulping down the Fox News coolaid and learn the truth.

    If you were a real fiscal conservative you would understand that is the rate of increase or decrease in the"deficit" and not increase in the debt that is the measure if fiscal responsibility. You would understand that those who are spewing this nonsense actually know that it is nonsense but spew it anyway because they know the raging masses are too ignorant to figure out their ploy.


    Bush was handed a near balanced budget (deficit near zero) ... after 8 years that deficit was 1.4 Trillion.

    Reagan was not much better if you look a the numbers. Bush Sr. better than the two aforementioned but still a big spender.

    You know who was the fiscal hero ? Clinton ... then Bush fkd it up and put us into a hole so deep we will never recover.

    You are an embarrassment to fiscal conservatism ... Truly.

    It is you that is the liberal socialist ... rooting for those that spent like reckless fools.

    Sorry to be so harsh but someone needs to give you a wake up call.
     
  20. AlphaOmega

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    Harsh? LOL. You never answered my math question. Which President was better A or B?
    Also Clinton bwahahaha his policies caused the housing bubble in 2001. Wow Bush was an idiot but I didn't know he could travel back in time. Also Clinton presided during the dotcom explosion. That had nothing to do with Clinton. It would have happened with or without him. That collapsed as well.
    Im an embarrassment now am I? Oh I didn't know I was ever the President.
    Would you like to compare portfolios to see which one of us is better with money?
    Also, Obama is chums with a nail bomb terrorist. I noticed you had nuthin for that. Im already awake are you? If not just roll over Obama and hit the snooze.
     
  21. Tahuyaman

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    I'm not so sure that makes one a subject matter expert in this modern era.

    - - - Updated - - -

    A tin foil helmet?
     
  22. Kessy_Athena

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    That's a good point, that does make Tyler guilty of actual, as defined by the Constitution treason. However, I believe the question was about what he did as President, and Tyler was really not the worst in that regard. If nothing else, he did establish the precedent that when the Vice President succeeds the President, they become the President, not the acting president, largely through force of personality and sheer chutzpah. That question was not at all clear before that time.

    ODS, ODS... (asks Google) Ah, Obama Derangement Syndrome. There's already a word for that: racism.

    As much as I dislike Reagan's politics and disagree with some of the things he did, the fact of the matter is that he did do a lot of good for the country. If nothing else it is undeniable that he did restore the US's self confidence at a time when we desperately needed it. Which is not a small accomplishment and not easy to achieve. Credit where credit is due.

    It may come as a shock to you, but contrary to popular opinion, the President really doesn't have a magic wand in a safe in the Oval Office that instantly makes the economy do whatever you want. There's only so much the President can do to effect the economy, and when the House will pass a resolution declaring the sky to be green just because Obama said it's blue, there's really not much the President can do entirely on his own. Obama has been trying to implement policies to help the middle class, but it's not easy when the GOP has been deliberately sabotaging the economy just to spite the President.

    Oh for pity's sake... You want to know what the Recovery Act did in reality? Remember a few years ago when just about every time you turned on the news there was another headline about another major corporation laying off however many thousands of people? Remember that? When was the last time you heard headlines like that? That is what the Recovery Act did.

    And, oh yeah, there was that whole bit of preventing a second great depression. You do realize that during 1929 - 1933, unemployment rose to 25%, the GDP fell by half, and the stock market lost 90% of its value, yes? Yet you think that preventing that from happening again is a bad thing?

    The US's stature on the world stage? You do realize that when Bush left office most of the rest of the world (certainly our allies) thought of the US as an out of control rogue nation that was starting wars willy nilly and using international law as toilet paper, right? No, I guess you probably don't. And despite what the testosterone poisoning crowd say, Obama has done reasonably well on the world stage. He's been calm, collected, and cautious. He has been judicious in how he's applied American power. And that's what you want in a President. At least if you're sane.

    (Facepalm) Oh, for the love of... The tech bubble is the one that burst in 2000. The housing bubble hit in 2007. Could please at least try to keep your basic facts straight?

    The nail bomb bit is so idiotic that it doesn't deserve a response.
     
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    The ( )0( ) Bushie Reply

    Yes Bush sucked, but Obama sucks more.
    Obama policies have just been a continuation of Bush policies.
    RepubloCratic policies. Bigger, more ridiculous use of sanctions too.
    Just because troops were pulled out on Obama's watch is no Gold Star
    considering how many years earlier they could have been pulled out.


    As for Tyler, http://us-presidents.findthebest.com/q/29/9699/What-were-President-John-Tyler-s-accomplishments
    Tyler presided over the annexation of the Republic of Texas 1845.
    Tyler also had foreign policy successes in his signing of the Webster-Ashburton Treaty with Britain and Treaty of Wanghia with Qing China - never forget. Nor the Alamo.
    And Constitutionally Tyler affirmed the Vice President becomes the President upon the death of a President in office. Not just a care taker President.
    Not the stuff of a worst President contender.



    Moi :oldman:
    James Knox Polk is the most
    unappreciated President !



    r > g


    No :flagcanada:
    54'40", Not 49'00"
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    Support our American Alaskan Corridor !
     
  24. goober

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    Wealth has become more concentrated since Reagan, making the economy less efficient, and hollowing out the middle class, this isn't something that just happened in 2009.
    From 2001 to 2009 there was a net decline in private employment.
    I mean my theory is backed by the fact that wealth has been shifted from the middle class to the top 0.1 % by Reagan's and Bush's tax cuts for the wealthy.
    What do you base your theory on?
     
  25. After Hours

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    It's funny looking at the poll results and noting every single person who voted for Obama is a known hyper right wing partisan hack.

    It will be funny to see the even bigger brain farts they will have when the next Democratic president is elected in 2016.
     

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