Cop fired at brown 6 times...paused then fired 4 more?

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  1. upside-down cake

    upside-down cake Well-Known Member

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    The first link of your's was the best one. It shows that it is possible for a person to "act" sure enough, though it takes very circumstantial conditions like small-caliber rounds or ineffective rounds shot in such ways as to pass by or miss critical parts of the brain or nervous system. However, I am not sure whether the definition of "act" includes continuing to charge the shooter with lethal capacity.

    The other links are iffy. The one's involving the police are likely taken from police reports and so...I'd find them a bit suspicious as they definitely seem very incredulous. 3 mortal wounds to the head...hrmmm. The last of them was survivors of such wounds, which is not disputed.

    Odd, though, that we go from verifying whether something is true or not to verifying whether it is possible that it could be true. As if to say the existence of the possibility of such a scenario implies that it happened, indirectly. Lawyers can really spin ya sometimes...

    Well, it's certainly possible that for some reason this boy decided to make a grim rush for the police officer. I can't say more than that....
     
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    Neither can I, or anyone else at this point. I didn't imply that such things factually happened in this case. The (private) autopsy report indicates the shot to the eye did not penetrate and exited downward to the jaw. I didn't presume that, that's what was described. Brown had 4 shots to the arm which presumably happened while he was upright and facing the officer. You can call that opinion if you like, but it's based on the presented report. Like other cases, until the evidence is reviewed by a grand jury we're not going to see much, and even then we might not see everything unless it goes to trial.
     
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    The bolded part is what I would call opinion beause you can draw a number of different conclusions. It seems odd that all the bullets would be along the right side of the body, except for the wound at the top of the head. It could be indicative that the victim was not facing the person, or perhaps he initially was but after being shot curled up and turned somewhat to the side.

    Well, the legal teams will turn that into a mad lib game. Much like the Zimmerman trial, they'll be dealing more in could'ves, would'ves and such and less with the evidence because it doesn't incriminate on it's own beyond a shadow of a doubt. If that's all they have, then this guy is gonna walk in my opinion.
     
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    You're right it's my opinion, but based on the private autopsy report. Why would it be odd for all the shots to be on one side of the body? What's indicative of the "victim" (bias on your part) is that the private medical examiner said all shots were from the front. How do you "curl up" and get shot up and down the arm? No witness indicated "curled up" and the corpse position was definitely not curled up.
     
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    Sometimes sound ricochets.
     
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    Dollface MD?
     
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    The correct term is echo (or echoes). However, it doesn't matter how many times the officer shot Brown. Once the decision to use deadly force is made, deadly force is justified or it isn't. The only question at that point is, "Was deadly force justified?" I guarantee the officer was trying to kill on the first shot. Is it better to kill on the first shot or the 6th? What about the 6th shot vs the 100th shot? What is the standard?

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    :roflol:
     
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    So the two that hit while he was running away were magic bullets or how do you explain all the wounds being from the front? Perhaps he was running backwards and then spun around the turn his back on the guy and then surrender? Then again the other bullets must be magic to.. Hmmm ;)

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    You expect an autopsy and the full report on the day of death?

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    And you are assuming this off of what information? Let me guess white cop black person shot... Must be racism right?
     
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    Who would question him other then the police?
     
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    You may be correct. I tried counting the shots on the tape but it is very difficult to do. Even the last batch of four shots is hard to count. After trying to count the shots from the tape, I thought to myself that an auto loader does not hold that many.
     
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    They said 11 on the news this morning but I heard 9 every time I listened to it.
    ~shruggs~

    We'll see at trial if there is one.

    Than again theres that whole authenticity thing.
     
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    Officer fires 6 shots....notes target is wounded and stops....perpetrator begins to get back up...officer fires again to finish the job.

    First 6 were body shots which caused enough damage to slow a 250+ man down....last four killed him.

    This is of course purely hypothetical
     
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    Have you ever been shot in the arm? So I guess this kid was just Superman, 3 slugs in the arm and he just shook that off like he was shot with a BB gun. The garbage that is spewed on this forum is just totally amazing.
     
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    If he had an orbital fracture, the paramedics at the scene should have a report of treating him.
     
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    Let us know when you have something useful to contribute.
     
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    I don't mind deferring to experts on nomenclature but isn't the clip the part of the unit that holds the rounds in a stacked column that then slide into the magazine? If I cared I'd look it up . . . but I don't really care. Anyway the thingamabob that hold those items that go -- blam! blam! -- after you've slipped the unit into the hole located beneath the grip and whereupon one commences to squeeze the trigger, was what I was referring to. There you go; now we are all on the same exquisitely technical page. Isn't it grand?
     
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    Hahahaha! Bloody brilliant! Wouldn't it be fascinating if that turned out to have been the case or even -- say -- a typical and randomly taken recording of any Saturday evening inside that section of Ferguson? Anyplace in which the inhabitants riot, loot, and burn the property of their own local businesses for night after night after night for the sheer hell of it is probably not a sweet place in which to live anyway.
     
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    Yes because as we all know paramedics on the scene routinely peel back skin and muscle tissue from any injured area so that they can directly view the underlying bone region in a meticulous inspection procedure. Of course they have to wear ear plugs to keep from rupturing their ear drums due to the shrieks of agony from the 'patient' and have to issue barfbags to the police officers standing by, but -- heck -- at least they are just that thorough. Oh and um . . . sheesh!
     
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    You seem to know what you're talking about. OK, if I understand you right, the officer should have six round left in the clip if he only fired six shots. Is that right?

    We don't know because that information, like just about everything else about the incident is being withheld.
     
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    Let me take care of that for you then....

    http://lmgtfy.com/?q=difference+between+clip+and+magazine
     
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    "Breaking news...it's authenticity is still being verified. Does raise some new questions"

    I guess I'm confused. What "questions" are raised?

    If you've ever been in a situation where you were defending yourself with a firearm (and I'm guessing you haven't) you wouldn't find this unusual.
     
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    That too
     
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    How do you know he was defending himself?
     
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    Ever think that's why his shot's were off?
     

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