What actually are the big differences between the three Abrahamic religions?

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  1. The Amazing Sam's Ego

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    Ive always thought that Judaism and Christianity are almost exactly the same religion-except for the fact that Christians believe in the New Testament and the Jews reject it as false and view Christ as simply a false prophet, and that the messiah will be somebody else who is not Jesus. (basically, Jews believe that the Second Coming of Christ will be his first coming, and that the Messiah was never supposed to come in the form of a simple man.)

    But Christians and Jews both identify themselves as having a unique religion, different from all the others, even from each other. Therefore, I assume there are some major differences in their faith, besides the fact that Jews reject the New Testament.

    Are there any major differences between the Christian and Jewish religious beliefs, besides that fact alone? Or are their religions almost exactly the same, with a few superficial similarities?

    I always thought that Islam was a totally different religion from Judaism and Christianity, and Judaism and Christianity are very similar religions, but since Muslims believe in Adam and Eve, Moses, King David, Solomon, Jonah, and pretty much a good percentage of the Old Testament prophets and characters that Jews and Christians believe in, what are the major differences between Islam and Christianity/Judaism? Muslims use arabic names for God and the people in the old testament, but thats simply a superficial language difference. Muslims do believe in Mohammad as a prophet, and Jews and Christians dont, but other than that, are their religions different in a significant way?

    From my knowledge on the Abrahamic religons, they are seem like theyre almost exactly the same, with some superficial differences, but am I wrong? Besides what I mentioned above, are their any major differences between what those 3 religions believe, that makes them all unique and seperate from each other?
     
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    God is defined by Christians as almighty Reality, itself.
    He clearly has a son called Truth.

    Jews have never defined G-d beyond saying He is "ineffable," or too complex to be described.
    They do not assume He has a son.

    Muslims never noticed that Christ said he was Truth, the ideal.
    This neglect prevented them from understanding that the father of Truth is almighty Reality.
    So muslims assume god is some all powerful entity they describe as gave 100 different qualities they actual spell out.
    They pretend to the idea that their "Allah" is the same creature as the God of the Bible, though.
     
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    Oh yeah...you are wrong. First thing....Judiasm isn't a set anything---I've found it impossible to really understand it or actually...them, because different sects of Judiaism is different religions with different core beliefs and tenets. The only thing that is similar with Christianity is that Christians and Jews who practice Judiaism worship the same God. Other then that.......

    Islam worships a god that doesn't share the character, or the righteousness of the Christian or Jewish God. Frankly--the god worshiped in Islam seems the opposite of the one true God.
     
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    Actually, the Judaic Messiah is expected to be a mortal man, rather than a God.

    Why not start with Wikipedia, if you're interested?
     
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    Nope, you pretty much nailed it. Christians = jesus is messiah, based on jewish OT. Jews = jesus is not messiah, and based on jewish OT, not called OT but the same books and authors. Muslims = jesus is nothing but a prophet, not messiah, just like Jews, but believe mohammad is the prophet to follow. Same OT basically.

    Christianity has many similarities to other older religions. Virgin birth, savior etc. I think very close to a hindu religion of Vishnu. And Hare Kristna.
     
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    Wait, didn't you run from a thread where you stated God inspired the entire infallible holy bible and claim there are different witnesses so they have different stories to the same events? Even thought they are inspired by the same entity. How can you tell someone else they are wrong? Islam worships the exact same God as christians and jews, the God of abraham. The father of Ishmael, the origin of arabs.

    If I have you mixed up with someone else, I apologize.
     
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    all the same, with minor tribal and language differences, then diverging somewhat in the hands of subsequent generations. they all ascribed qualities of whatever their own culture was at the time to the godhead, that's all. the godhead is effectively whatever your mob wants it to be - and none have it down as essentially good, though Jews probably come the closest.
     
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    Run from a thread? No. But I will say...that it is interesting how often Atheists will flock to protect Islam while piling on the hate for Christianity. I expect the same from this thread. Atheists tend to align with the "world". If Islam taught about the true God---you would hate Islam. But you don't.
     
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    As a born, baptized, confirmed, married as a christian, most my entire family a christian, I don't hate christians. But I don't like when christians try to say their idea of christian, god and jesus is the only way. BTW LCMS is a hardcore christian religion and believe as you, the bible is 100% inspired inerrant word of God. I now call that BS.
    I don't like muslims as depicted on the world stage. I know most are not terrorists but, I don't see muslim countries trying to stop terrorists either.
    So, you have it wrong.
     
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    Nice idea, but no banana. Many of us who are more generous with islam than we might be with Christianity are so because we've been at the receiving end of shabby treatment by Christians (on account of our atheism), but not from muslims.

    average muslims, in my own experience, couldn't give a damn if someone is an atheist, and have no interest in 'bringing them to god', nor do they feel the need to demonise them. they don't automatically assume they have rights and privileges, and don't express the arrogance of self-righteous and self-appointed virtue. granted the fringe element are problematic, it's not the fringe element of Christianity who behave so abominably to anyone or anything which appears to threaten their fragile construction. it's your ordinary, apparently harmless, man and woman in the street. those who would otherwise be considered moderates.
     
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    Muslims behave very much as did the Hebrew patriarchs according to the Old Testament.

    They oppose sexual promiscuity in public.
    They will try to forcibly eliminate a neighboring society that teaches this to their muslim children by the examples of how those people live with one another.

    They behave as the Koran teaches them, being patriarchs who hate feminism and Gayness and matriarchies.
     
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    Jesus was just a man.
    He did die, too.
    Jesus was the physical son-of-man as was stated in the NT.

    But his spirit was the thoughts inside his head.
    They were what was called the son-of-God.
    They never died.

    Truth, as an ideal, was what he thought.
    Truth lived before Jesus was born, before Abraham was born, and after Jesus died, too.
     
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    There are similar things stated therein, yes.
    But Christ claimed to be truth.

    He meant Truth, as a concept and/or ideal, which is what saves man who must adapt to the ever changing reality, or become extinct as a species.
    He meant that Truth is the ONLY thing which teaches men what Reality is like.
    Truth defines the real World men must accept or suffer otherwise.

    "I am the Truth, ... and the way and the life"...
     
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    Huh...?
    He seems correct on what you said,...

    AND,... Muslims pretend to respect Jesus as a prophet, but they do NONE of the things Jesus told them they must do:


    For instance:
    1) They do not abide by his ritual of the Eucharist. (John 6:54)

    2) They do not love their enemies. (Matthew 5:43)

    3) They do not believe "we all have the power to become the sons-of-God." (John 1:12)

    4) They do not remember that in 32AD, Elijah returned from Heaven as an immortal, one who never died. (Matthew 17:12)

    5) They do not believe in salvation by faith in The Truth. (John 14:6)

    6) They do not believe in the resurrection through faith in Christ. (John 11:25)

    7) They do not believe in the crucified suffering messiah. (Isaiah 53)
     
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    All three oppose open sexual promiscuity whether straight or Gay...all the same,...
     
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    Saudi Arabia and Egypt seem to see the problem more clearly now, as one is a Kingdom and the other a democracy.
    Both are threatened with the muslim terror attempt to change them into Theocracies.

    And, the Christians are wrong about Christ is Love.
    But they are right, that Christ is unique.
    Christ said he personified Truth, and is, thereafter, the mediator for one god, almighty Reality.
     
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    no, I don't have it wrong.
     
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    what bearing does any specific claim have on the merit of a given dogma? people can, and often do, claim all sorts of crazy stuff. I can claim I'm the King Of Norway, but does that make it true?
     
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    Only if you steer clear of the nookie. God hates nookie.
     
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    there is very little evidence to back this claim up.
    the fact is that The Old and New Testament, and the Quran view God as an entity. Or in the case of Christianity, entities in the form of the Trinity.

    The pantheistic idea you espouse to Christianity is not scriptural justified.
     
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    And fjords.
     
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    OK, but you are not right. What you think is entirely your prerogative. Just like one can stick their head in sand if they choose.

    So you are going on record I hate my parents, brothers and sister, aunts and uncles, cousins, and friends. All from some post?
    Oh you said atheists hate, I have not confirmed any atheist status on my part. Just confirmed the man made dogmatic religion you enjoy. Because there is a secret you aren't let in on, they lie(religions).
     
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    they all believe in the same God, they just tell the story a little differently, in fact both Muslims and Christians believe in Jesus and the virgin birth, Mary being the mother, ect...
     
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    No, claiming you are something means nothing at all.
    But claiming that Truth is lord over us all makes sense even here, where you try to tell us what you believe is true, and we others try to tell you differently.

    In the end, Truth will rise to the top, even if people attempt to crucify it before then.
     
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    "I am the Truth,... the way and the life" was pretty clearly explained in John 14:7-10.


    The rest is just Logically:

    Logical Syllogism:

    A) Christ is Truth, (i.e.; personified as an ideal in 32AD).
    B) Truth is the image of Reality.
    C) Reality is congruent to Truth, as Christ is congruent to the Father of everything that is called Reality.
     

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