Steven Hawking COMES OUT! I am an atheist, SCIENCE is more convincing than GOD!

It's reached the point that scientists and prechers are indistinguishable. It's just a matter of whose lies you choose to listen to.

 

There is a God, or you may prefer, an Engineer.

If the supposed greatest minds on the planet can believe in string theory,

If they can believe that there are 10 or so parallel universes

with 10 different versions of each of us living another existence, It's just not that big

of a stretch for me to believe in God All Mighty. In our man made world,

all things are engineered, I don't think the natural world is any different,

other than the fact that we are not capable of understanding it at this point.

 

...You aren't serious right?

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All things are not engineered.

 

I would change the maxim slightly: Hawking doesn't believe in God because he sees no proof. But he believes in aliens however, yet still has no proof.

Hawking is a fraud because he rejects religion but replaces one belief system with another without cause. To assume there must be intelligent life somewhere is just the expression of a wish.

 

according to Hawking, the universe created itself out of nothing. He claims that the universe simply created itself because of gravity. Well Stephen, who created gravity?

Who actually deems him to be a "great mind" ?

 

Hawking doesn't know how the universe got here yet he knows there is no God. Not a very consistent thinker, indeed.

 

You are so wrong.

 

Except there is NO ambivalence or QUESTIONING of 'god'. It is NOT allowed. Look at this board. We have people BIBLICALLY interpreting the
Constitution, school books, ART, science. Sounds like FAITH has subsumed FACT.

And I will repeat, I'm sick of it! I'm tired of having to GO AROUND these biblical FOOLS to conduct my life and my business. It interferes with my country, with my local, state and federal government. It interferes with my activities and my ACCESS to knowledge, and medicine and science! I do NOT want to walk into a place of BUSINESS and be 'preached' to. Yes, that interferes with my life. I do NOT want to have to listen to someone's blessing when I pick up phone and pay a bill or ask a question. It interferes with my life. It is presumptuous. I do NOT want to deal with their RELIGIOSITY and in particular be subjected to zealots who have NO understanding or a contorted understanding, at best! If someone wants to have a 'scholarly' discussion of faith and religion, fine, I am all in.

 

Who engineers each snow flake?

Each salt crystal?

 

The Drake Equation isn't even close to proof. It's based on guesses. If it was true, where is everybody? (see Fermi Paradox)

 

If HAWKING says we don't need god to explain how it all started, I will believe him. I'm to believe a bunch of guys who wrote a text over a 60 year period some 2000 years ago? Men when they had no idea what a planet was, that the earth revolved around anything, what a star was, how floods happened, how disease was spread, who killed off women because they couldn't produce sons?? Yeah, now there's a source for me to consider living my life by!

Get real.

 

I imagine if I had been as messed up as he is as long as he is, I would want my graduate assistant to program in something like that for me to say as well.

 

Hawking was brought up God-free. Atheism isn't new to him.

 

Gee! You don't want to deal with them yet they don't want to have to deal with you. Isn't freedom wonderful?

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Regardless, Hawking's view is intellectually lazy and cannot be justified.

 

Good for steve.

 

It's based on simple statistics.

As for "Where is everybody?", space is BIG and light speed is a universal speed limit.

 

God bless you.

 

Bad choice of words but I get the drift! And yes, I believe it was cosmic 'occurrence' without design.

 

Nope, YOU don't get it! He actually does. Decidedly over my head, I admit, but I actually got the drift when he made his pronouncement a couple of years.

I am STILL STUNNED at the stunning silence surrounding it!.

 

The problem is, "goddidit" isn't an explanation of anything, it is an anti-explanation of everything.

 

Very interesting. Can you link to Steve Hawking's revelation about the
origins of the universe? I don't believe anyone caught it and lots of people would love to know.

 

Apparently atheists fail to realize science has nothing to say about the metaphysical. Yet, every atheist believes in meaning and metaphysical qualities for else they'd be nihilists. Educate yourself with the brilliant C.S. Lewis, former atheist, for some real insight on this subject.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJu0oYvi-cY

 

It does not work that way. We are all aware that unicorns and leprechauns do not exist, but you are saying they do because we cannot prove it? The proof is in the very fact that their existence cannot be proven...as it is with the burden of proof for an existence of a God.

 

Would you be willing to submit yourself to the philosophical realities of this view? Like if this is a cosmic occurrence without design and simply all we are is randomly assorted matter, essentially just material, that meaning is illusory and life is more meaningless than any atheist is willing to admit.

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The Creation is the proof of the Creator. It really is that simple. Nothing in life that has intelligence or intelligent qualities has ever randomly come about without intelligence behind it, why start believing so now?

 

It's based on guesses, like the length of time it takes for a civilization to develop signals that can be sent into space, or the fraction of civilizations that develop that technology. Nobody knows that.

Space is big but, if you think the Drake Equation shows a plethora of civilizations, then there are a great many star systems with life. Our solar system is pretty young compared to the billions and billions of other stars, where are they?.

On the other hand, Cosmologist's John Barrow and Frank Tipler ran the Drake Equation and concluded that the probability of a candidate civilization developing in our entire galaxy is less than 1. Since we obviously are 1, the chances of 2 are that much less. They also said if advanced civilizations existed, they'd already be here.