Russian Official: US Must Abandon Claims to Eternal Uniqueness

At least according to the Russian Foreign Minister

http://www.thonline.com/news/national_world/article_52aa143e-4689-11e4-8131-001a4bcf6878.html

My take on it--show me a better place where freedom thrives and I'll consider his point.

 

meanwhile immigrants from Russia still flood to the USA

 

No Western News Media covers Larhov's message. I pick it up on Al Jazeera and RT.
His message is so clear and concise and accurate he reminds me of Abba Eban and his great speech before the U.N. at the time of The Six Day War.
Similar to the Eban speech - too much of the U.N. membership is not there to consider the words spoken as hoped back in the days of the League of Nations.

Great speeches that ring true fall on deaf ears.​

And YOU, Clausewitz call that FREEDOM !
Is it FREEDOM when Lahrov's speech is on no cable channel or in any way represented.
Do you think it would matter if it was in English ?

And
Bravo. People come to America for "stuff", not virtues. Tell me it ain't so.

Moi


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Relax. It's on Fox News, at least. http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/0...-us-must-abandon-claim-to-eternal-uniqueness/

 

Yes. Thank you. That's great.
Too bad they use it as a vehicle to claim Russky anti West foreign policy and
not review it for what absolute truthiness there may be.

Witness
""The U.S.-led Western alliance that portrays itself as a champion of democracy, rule of law and human rights within individual countries ... (is) rejecting the democratic principle of sovereign equality of states enshrined in the U.N. Charter and trying to decide for everyone what is good or evil," Lavrov said in remarks at the U.N. General Assembly on Saturday in the latest example of deteriorating relations between Moscow and the West.

Lavrov's assault appeared to be an extension of the increasingly anti-Western stance of Russian President Vladimir Putin, who is riding a wave of popularity at home with his neo-nationalist rhetoric and policies. "

Moi
Seeker of Truthiness

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What freedom? Well for one you say you're in California, and yet you criticize the US. It's nice knowing you're not going to prison for that, isn't it?

 

It's nice I don't have to contend with Sub Populations of Californians who are ready to kill each other if it were not for an authoritarian hand of restraint.
Remove Mubarak and more Christians are killed in Egypt then ever.
Remove Saddam, weaken Assad - the same.
Except it ain't about just Christians getting killed but any sub population not identical to the marauders.
California has a different culture, fershur.
BTW notice what happened after the Western led Putsch in Kiev ? Same as above. Killing for tribal reasons.

My 80+ year old Russian father in law believes Russians can only be governed by a strong man.
Not Western Style democratic, parliamentary, etc. He really believes that.
Some peoples are just not ready for California culture.
Some peoples require their inter tribal hate wars suppressed by an authoritarian.
Mubarak, Assad, Qadaffi, etc. did so equally across all populations as "nationalist".
Likewise Moscow and Kiev until recently.


The West really needs to take the moral high ground, again
God Bless America, Again
But we need to act Godly as we use to.

BTW here is the story on Reuters
http://news.yahoo.com/russia-u-n-accuses-u-allies-bossing-world-193208406.html



Moi

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No
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Lavrov like Putin, (whose speeches also are never printed in the Western press), is respectful, logical and brilliant. He is a real diplomat and caters to a person's intellect. Now compare that to Kerry, who like Obama lie consistently, assuming everyone's an idiot and can be readily brainwashed merely by repeating something often enough. My favorite writer Pepe Escobar calls them; The Juvenile Delinquency School of Diplomacy.

I think you'll enjoy this video Moi, it's a German satire on the lies fed to us by our Western media, which I read was a lot worse in Germany. The Germans are very black and white, so I don't think they're taking being lied to lightly.

[video=youtube;jSOfQ7tgTLg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSOfQ7tgTLg&feature=player_embedded[/video]

 

Russia, for example.

 

that's simply not true; neither Russian tourists consider the US as a place for vacation.

 

I also like to look at Jen Psak. She is living proof that stupidity has no limits.

 

I do not like watching videos
Reluctantly I watched this one and it was difficult the first minutes but
Boy Did It Get Hot !

This is what SNL should be doing.
And even Jon Stewart has not achieved this level on this story.

If I can watch and even laugh with the video, anyone can.
Try it.

Moi


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USA is a country with a black fascist dictator. (Same as Jean-Bedel Bokassa. However no. Bokassa not watch to their citizens, as NSA). Happiness of Americans is that they have forgotten what freedom is. Americans neschem compare. In addition, many Americans instead of brain have TV. And on TV they talk about the "exceptional nation." American Zombie (those with TV instead of brain) admire hundred dollar separatist J. Washington, but scold people of the east of Ukraine. In psychiatry, it is called paranoia.
With regard to Mr. Lavrov ..he - a talented diplomat, very cultured and well-mannered people. With genuine Russian education. His interviews are always a pleasure to read.

 

Mah ... I have always considered a great power [imagine a Superpower like the US] a geopolitical machine first.

The United States can be particular within their borderlines [granting a wide range of freedoms to citizens], but abroad the American power acts as any other power. We can say that it's appreciable that Washington, historically, prefers soft power to hard power, anyway regional wars to grant the security of the sphere of influence of the Superpower have been [and are] run by US.

Like ancient Athene ... a democracy within the walls ... a war machine out of them.

In a few words: America is great, it's The Model of the societies of the future [also Russia is "americanizing" itself, but Russians don't not it ...] and the best ally ever [US offers to allies a very advantageous exchange of interests and so far this strategy has worded very well].

 

The more immigrants from Russia we have, the more support Russia will have from inside USA. However, immigration from Russia cannot outcompete immigration from Mexico and Latin America. American Democracy is corroded, outdated and needs serious repairs. Lavrov understands it. Russian democracy is still young and it will grow.

 

U.S. drops in press freedom ranking, to #46 out of 180 countries measured

U.S. Drops from Top Ten Freest Countries in 2014 Index of Economic Freedom

The U.S. ranks below Japan, the U.K., Australia, and New Zealand in freedom of speech.

10 Countries with the Most Freedom of Speech

World Freedom Index 2013: Canadian Fraser Institute Ranks Countries

 

The aforementioned countries wouldn't even be democracies without the US. And more power to you if you want to live as a "subject" of a King or Queen

 

nope not true. when you look at all the high rise condos going up in Miami right now they will not only house S. americans trying to escape those crap hole countries but also crap hole countries like Russia. the reason countries like Russia iran Egypt and so on need strong dictators is because if they ever become true democracies they will have the same aspirations as catalonia and Scotland and break away to form their own country.

 

OK, so you were lying and would never consider changing your opinion. Gotcha.

 

"Flood"? Russian immigration is down 77% from the early 90's. Meanwhile Russia is being "flooded" with immigrants from the west trying to get away from the US junta in Ukraine and is now over 700,000. Russia is the second largest immigration country after the USA. According to official figures, 180,000 migrants visit Russia every year. The number of unregistered migrants is estimated to be between three to four million. - See more at: http://blog.euromonitor.com/2007/06...oost-the-population.html#sthash.q8HP7YJg.dpuf
http://www.forbes.com/sites/markado...-lot-lower-than-it-was-in-the-1990s-or-2000s/

 

You saying the US is actually a free nation? Looks more like an illusion of freedom to me. Oh, we have elections, sure, but the results are limited to two sides of the same coin.

If we are do not have sovereign rights over our own bodies and consciousness, how in the world can anyone say americans are free? An illusion sir. For if we do not have this basic, most fundamental freedom, then freedom is an illusion. We only have these superficial freedoms, what the rulers want to grant us, even as they are taking more and more of traditional freedoms away, as we allow it. We swap freedom for the illusion of security.

 

It's pretty cool knowing that you can post this without the NSA tracking you down and having the CIA/FBI put a bullet in your head. Not every country can say the same

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I considered it and the answer was no. We influenced their democracies, yet they still don't have the same guaranteed freedom (ie no Bill of Rights).

 

Russian authorities continued the crackdown on civil society and government critics that began in 2012. Enforcement of the “foreign agents” law led to an unprecedented, nationwide inspection campaign of hundreds of nongovernmental organizations (NGOs). Dozens of groups are fighting the prosecutors in courts, refusing to register as “foreign agents.” Parliament adopted laws restricting LGBT rights and freedom of expression and infringing on the right to privacy. Abuses in the North Caucasus continue.

http://www.hrw.org/world-report/2014/country-chapters/russia

 

... as long as you stay out of L.A.




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That's because the CIA isn't allowed to operate within U.S. borders.




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