Another reason I love the Tea Party.........

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  1. Deno

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    I'm not clicking on your link. You make no argument. In the interest of fair time I'll just say that the tea party is comprised of right wing authoritarians that could not act in their own self interest even with a gun at their heads. They are worst sort of people full of passionate intensity but their conviction is misplaced...fodder for their handlers.
     
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    and she appears to be right handed also [​IMG]
     
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    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Now compare this video and see what type of people you think are better for our nation

    [video=youtube;sV6bNpNU4ls]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sV6bNpNU4ls[/video]

    With this one

    [video=youtube;lCTxIRljYSg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCTxIRljYSg[/video]
     
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    The Second Coming.
    Turning and turning in the widening gyre
    The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
    Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
    Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
    The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
    The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
    The best lack all conviction, while the worst
    Are full of passionate intensity.
    Surely some revelation is at hand;
    Surely the Second Coming is at hand.
    The Second Coming! Hardly are those words out
    When a vast image out of Spiritus Mundi
    Troubles my sight: a waste of desert sand;
    A shape with lion body and the head of a man,
    A gaze blank and pitiless as the sun,
    Is moving its slow thighs, while all about it
    Wind shadows of the indignant desert birds.
    The darkness drops again but now I know
    That twenty centuries of stony sleep
    Were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle,
    And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
    Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?
    William Butler Yeats (1865-1939)
     
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    So why does the tebaggers always lose?
     
  8. Deno

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    Because of low information voters like yourself........
     
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    Talk about fodder for their handlers, just keep your head in the sand.

    The worst sort of people support the tyrannical thug in office that

    uses the full power of the Federal Government against his political foes.

    You are no different than the Nazi's that supported Hitler.
     
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    If you are Americans first, how come so many of you advocate succession (which Ms Pierson champions) which if I interpret that correctly is nothing more than trashing constitution and the vision of the founders.

    which is it?

    Proud Americans ready willing and able to work at the challenges faced by the nation and ALL its people, or spoiled selfish Burger Kings who demand they have it their way?
     
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    >>>MOD EDIT Quoted Post Deleted<<<

    They don't.

    In fact, the Tea Party is hands down the most successful political movement the nation has ever seen. No other political movement has accomplished as much as the Tea Party in as short of period as they have done. How many libertarians or green party members have senators in Congress? How many other groups have had the power to shut down the government of the United States?

    The left look at some lost elections and declare that the Tea Party is dead but they do not understand what it is about. The Tea Party is based on fiscal conservatism and as the nations money problems grow worse the louder our voice will get.

    The left are going to have to deal with us for a very, very long time.
     
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    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The Tea Party has no national platform outside of lower taxes and smaller government. Some may want to secede and other do not. I don't want to.

    We don't all share the same views outside of fiscal conservatism and that is why we can't be brought down by the left. We have pro-choice and pro-life people, those for the death penalty and those against it, people who want immigration reform and others that want to bomb Mexico....our views are all over the place outside of our one main common goal.
     
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    Godwin strikes yet again.

    do you consider "tyrannical thug" to be yet another metaphor or is it a direct epithet this time?

    (although I decry anyone who dismisses the other side's subject matter out of hand predicated wholly on their own partisan perspective ).


    Cheers.


    PS, Can't say she's my type. Lukewarm is my personal assessment.
     
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    Taxcutter says:
    Spoken like somebody who has never been to a Tea Party meeting.
     
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    Lower taxes and smaller government. Admirable goals.

    Problem with those two goals, is how to achieve them.

    I hear this constant refrain "lower taxes" but no articulated plan of lower taxes, nor of tax reform, just the mindless mantra.

    Smaller government? How would this be achieved? what areas would be eliminated, what services restricted? what services privatized (I assume like for profit prisons), how much of the burden would fall on the states to deliver services? How would you deal with the vast inequities in state wealth?

    Seems the tea party is all about simple principles that are easy to understand but hide the massive complexity and problems that these "solutions" would also generate, not to mention the unintended consequence that would also arise.

    If there is an actual Tea Party platform that details the plan for lower taxes and smaller government instead of bumper sticker sloganeering I would great appreciate a link so I can educate myself on what the Tea party plan actually is.
     
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    Taxcutter says:
    Start by repealing ObamaTax and Dodd-Frank. Reinstate Glass-Steagal. Repeal Sarbanes-Oxley.

    Eliminate the Department of Education in its entirety and all the programs it administers.
    Eliminate the Department of Energy and all its programs. Let the Navy and Air Force handle nuclear power. Ditch everything else.
    Eliminate all the programs and agencies that resulted fro LBJ's failed "War on Poverty."
    Institute a consumption based tax plan and eliminate any trace of incomes taxes. This allows you to attenuate the corrupt IRS by about 90%.
    Eliminate Obamaphones and their supporting taxes.
    Reform the Federal Acquisition Regulations so as to favor the taxpayers and not the vendors.
    Eliminate about 80% of the federal criminal code.

    That's a good start. Should keep Congress busy til April.
     
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    We are not politicians, it is not our job to figure it out. This is why we elect people to go and do that for us.

    I will tell you something we are in agreement on however and that is that we do not have a revenue problem, we have a spending problem.

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    Is this an official tea party platform and if so please provide a link.
     
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    There is no official Tea Party platform, we are not an organized national party. This is why the left have nothing to target so they rely on blanket statements such as we are all bigots, which really makes our black members laugh, but hey, the democrats have to attach labels to destroy.
     
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    I'd say the Tea Party movement is extremely successful for how new of an idea in politics it is.

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    That's one thing I love about the freedom of their ideas, instead of trying to mold everyone the same.
     
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    So you don't care how its done? You will trust people you elect to make those hard decisions without you having a clue as to the ramifications of actions designed to achieve these goal?

    Taking this abdication of personal responsibility for any measures imposed by your elected official to the extreme, it would be like having the goal of stopping illegal immigration and electing people who say they will solve the problem, and then they "solve it" by rounding them all up and shooting them.


    No wonder the tea party is losing ground every year.
    http://www.gallup.com/poll/168917/four-years-gop-support-tea-party-down.aspx
     
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    Who is it that claims to be "Tea Party" that is an authoritarian?

    They seem mostly composed of libertarian right!
     
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    Freedom of their ideas does not a political platform make. If for instance the Democrats agreed and pledged to reduce everyone's taxes and substantially reduce the size of the government, would the majority of tea partiers vote for them? My guess? - not a chance..
     
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    Of course we care. If we disagree with them then we will vote them out and put someone else in there. Unlike the democrats or the republicans who feel the need to blindly follow their leaders, we will turn on them in a second if they do not do what we feel they should.

    And you need to use some common sense here. The people are not politicians, we have neither the time nor the resources to formulate legislation which is why we have a representative government. Tell me, do you write all democratic policy and submit it to your lawmakers so they can present it to Congress?

    No?

    Then why are you making that ridiculous claim of the Tea Party than?

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    Yes we would actually.

    Remember, the Tea Party sprang into a unified grass roots movement in response to Bush and his extremely expensive war, it was the straw that broke the camel's back basically. We are loyal to an idea, not a political party.
     

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